Ilearned to embroider when I was a kid, when everyone was really into cross stitch (remember the '80s?). Eventually, I migrated to surface embroidery, teaching myself with whatever I could get my hands on...read more
It fits easily up a living room chair. The height is adjusted by moving the main length of the stand forward. After adjusting the height, it is just a matter of adjusting the slope of the frame in the clamp.
The clamp is a simple vice set-up, made out of thick plastic, with a large screw on the top. The stretcher bars fit between the two layers of thick plastic, and, to tighten, you just turn the large screw on top.
If you have a NWS4, drop a comment and let me know if you have had equal success with it, or not! If you have a different type of floor stand, why did you select it and what do you like best about it?
Mary, that is without a doubt in my mind, the most comprehensive review of a needlework stand I have had the pleasure to read. You covered all the major questions I have be debating in a concise and to the point fashion.
Needlework System 4 Website and I bought mine through Needlepoint Alley in FL, because their website is one of the few that has a regular shopping cart feature, so it was easy to order. The websites I had seen to that point were all similarly priced.
I am extremely happy with my frame stand, clamp, and scroll frame, which I got over 6 years ago. They get daily use (I usually needlepoint a minimum of 2 hours/day.) In addition, I have extra scroll bars & rods so I can have multiple projects on scroll frames at one time.
Like you, I particularly like the ease of turning my stitching without having to having to adjust the frame clamp, stand or scroll frame setup. In fact, I had hand surgery 2 years ago on my left hand to remove bone spurs and regraft the thumb ligaments and NEVER had to stop stitching. My rehab therapist even credits my full recovery of range of motion and flexibility to my continual stitching and, of course, her good care.
I just got one of these as my big Holiday Gift to myself and I LOVE IT! I found out about this stand here at your site and decided to just go for it. It makes working on projects so enjoyable, easily some of the best money I have spent.
Thanks so much for sharing and posting about this NS4 !
It was of great help reading your feedback on it on a previous post, taken a look at the video and reading everyones coments on it. I was searching for a stand but was very confused and overwhelmed by the many kinds and brands out there. Search is over, received mine 2 days
ago (got the lap/table stand -wich by the way has been upgraded with a sturdier base than the one on the picture on their site-with the stretcher bar clamp).
After comparing prices, got mine from , great customer service , was shipped straight from the manufacturer. I'm sooo looking forward to using it this weekend for continuing with the Long and Short stitch lessons !
I see myself using it everywhere. Went for this style instead
of the floor one because I have a very busy pre-schooler and the lap/table style will be completely out of her way ! ?
One thing that I will note is that when I first got it, I worked on my older pieces that are already attached to scroll bars that worked with my old stand. HOWEVER, after a few months of being on the NS4 stand, those old scroll bars began cracking the wood at the threading posts. The older EZ Frame scroll bars that I own are thinner in thickness than the NS4 ones are. The NS4 scroll rods are about 1/2"-5/8" thick. Very sturdy indeed.
Once the older bars cracked, it became hard to keep the tension in the fabric. In one case, I was about 3/4 of the way finished with a very large project, so I've taken it off the old bars and mounted it on the new ones.
K's creations scroll bars also work with the NS4 stand and do come in a wider range of widths. I'm purchasing more scroll rods, and getting ready to package up my old ones with the old stand for sale. I did love the old stand, but I haven't used it enough to justify having two since I got the NS4. I do love the way the NS4 stand rotates. The most striking thing about it is that the stand is so light in weight!
Thanks, AJ, for the information! The bag for carrying your equipment is a clever idea! I don't travel with mine much, and I don't have the travel stand, but it would be nice to have a bag to pack the stand away in. I'll have to look into that!
I have a padded frame stand bag in black from Hug Me Co. in the original longer size. Because I'm short (5' 4") & the bag is long, I wish the shoulder strap could be snapped on both ends of the rather than just on 1 end; the bag hangs down the long way and can drag, especially on stairs. I've considered getting the shorter travel-size bag but right now my needlepoint dollars are going for canvases & threads! Here's a link to the Hug Me Co.
The original-sized bag holds my original-sized NS4 stand, the clamp head (in an inside pocket w/ velcro closure), & the scroll bar "jaws" head with room to spare. The bag is double zippered so the clamp head of the scroll frame can protrude through the bag opening in the center where the zipper sliders meet.
I have a second tote bag that accommodates the scroll bar/side bars set-up without having to disassemble it (sorry I'm traveling & don't have it with me to check the brand-name; will post later if you're interested). Both bags were purchased at Stitches by the Bay in Monterey CA, a couple years ago when June McKnight owned the shop. I would think that Colleen Greenlee, the present owner, would be pleased to assist you.
Oh that is awesome to hear Mary! Thanks so much! I ordered mine last night and should have it by Monday according to the lady at the shop. I went with your recommendation on where to buy. The lady I dealt with was fantastic!
I have to use very strong glasses in order to stitch and need the stitching 8-10" from my face. I'm currently using an old lap stand and still have to bend over so far to see the stitching properly that I can only stitch for a couple hours before I have a terrible neck/shoulder ache from bending over to see!
Mary: Thought I'd let you know, I ordered the stand with the regular scroll frame and extension shortly after I posted in February. I LOVE it so much that today I ordered the large scroll frame. Finally I have the perfect stand for my stitching! Thank you again for the wonderful review!
Hi Mary,
Thank you very much for your response.I have done a little more research and the new Travel version is now telescopic (no longer hinged).
I plan to ponder over the weekend before making my grand decision on Monday. Still tempted to buy both along with the extension and possibly a scroll frame however I mainly work on slate frames.
Hi Mary,
Thanks for all of your advice. I have finally ordered a travel stand and clamp/ table clamp and scroll frame. I might add that this time last week I was not even looking for a floor stand and then accidentally discovered your fabulous footage on your new sight and felt I needed one immediately. Thought that if I was going to fund the postage to Australia I may as well make it worthwhile!!
Mary,
I have been trying to figure out everything I would need to do Hand Embroidery, Needle Punch and Ribbon Embroidery using the Needlework System 4. After extensive research and sending you questions, I am thinking that what I really need are the Q-Snaps. I would be working on Weavers Cloth, Cotton Fabrics and clothing. Could you set me straight on this? Could you head me in the right direction?
Becky McNutt
Thanks Mary, that does help ?
Now I need to save up for the floor stand and the Q-Snap componant. Does the clamp shown in your photos come WITH the stand, or does that also have to be purchased seperately?
I bought just the stand and med scroll bars and after 1 year of constant use it still works just as perfect as it did when I bought it, so I feel it was the best investment I ever made,
And soon I want to purchase the smaller scroll bars when money permits.
Mary
Have read your most comprehensive and thorough review on the Needlework Systems 4 floor stand, as a consequence I purchased the stand and it is every bit as good as you found it. Wished I had found it years ago!!
As well as Threadneedle Street being very prompt to deliver [10 days from go to whoa, and I live in New Zealand]] but they where very friendly and helpful regarding my queries
Have also greatly enjoyed your very informative web site, you are extremely productive and very generous with your knowledge .
I shall be visiting often
Kind regards Heather
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Both stands have their pros and cons. I would say that, if you work on smaller to medium sized projects most often, and you like using stretcher bar frames or slate frames, then the NWs4 is the way to go. If you work on wider but not necessarily deeper projects and you use slate frames or the Millenium frame, then the Necessaire might work better for you.
Incidentally, I can clamp a medium sized hoop into the NWS4 stand, but I can also use a grip clamp from the hardware store and clamp hoops to the top of the Necessaire. So both can work with a hoop, but there is some rigging involved on both.
I use brass tacks purchased from the hardware store, as you suggested in another of your articles. Is it still possible to use the Needlework System 4 stand clamp on these tacks even though they have the slightly rounded tops? Is the clamp able to hold the stretcher bars securely or will I have to go back to using the flat top tacks?
Thank you for all your wonderful advice on so may topics. I would like to buy a floor stand and am considering the Needlework System 4 Regular Floor Stand with Frame Clamp per your recommendation. Have you tried to use it with a hoop? I sometimes use hoops instead of frames and would like to buy one stand for everything.
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