dart

[klemo]

http://googlecode.blogspot.com/2011/10/dart-language-for-structured-web.html
http://www.dartlang.org/

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virtual machine or on top of a JavaScript engine by using a compiler
that translates Dart code to JavaScript. This means you can write a
web application in Dart and have it compiled and run on any modern
browser. The Dart VM is not currently integrated in Chrome but we plan
to explore this option.
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--klemo

[Alan Pavičić]

> http://googlecode.blogspot.com/2011/10/dart-language-for-structured-web.html
> http://www.dartlang.org/
>

buuu, vraćaj pare!

--aka

[Dinko Srkoc]

Da ... Java uz optional typing + pružimo ruku JavaScriptu +
suvremenija sintaksa.
Čini mi se da su igrali na sigurno, bez riskiranja i hrabrih odluka. U
usporedbi, JavaScript je teška alternativa.

oknid

[Davorin Rusevljan]

Meni se cini da bi oni s time prije htjeli zamijeniti javu na androidu
da si skinu oracle s grbace, samo im je bad reci dok ne vide kak ide.

rush

[Dobrica Pavlinusic]

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 02:52:35PM +0200, Davorin Rusevljan wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Dinko Srkoc <dinko...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > On 10 October 2011 14:35, Alan Pavi�i� <aka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> http://googlecode.blogspot.com/2011/10/dart-language-for-structured-web.html
> >>> http://www.dartlang.org/
> >>>
> >>

> >> buuu, vra�aj pare!
> >>
> >
> > Da ... Java uz optional typing + pru�imo ruku JavaScriptu +
> > suvremenija sintaksa.
> > �ini mi se da su igrali na sigurno, bez riskiranja i hrabrih odluka. U
> > usporedbi, JavaScript je te�ka alternativa.

>
>
> Meni se cini da bi oni s time prije htjeli zamijeniti javu na androidu
> da si skinu oracle s grbace, samo im je bad reci dok ne vide kak ide.

Meni se �ini da nema nade. Jo� jedan Google Wave, ali ovaj puta �emo
mahati programskom jeziku.

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[Davorin Rusevljan]

2011/10/10 Dobrica Pavlinusic <dpa...@gmail.com>:
> Meni se čini da nema nade. Još jedan Google Wave, ali ovaj puta ćemo
> mahati programskom jeziku.

pa meni je isto enigma kako su si zamislili da bu to uspjelo.

Da li je netko pogledao sto u std library-u ima od DOM-a i gui-a? Ili
treba reinventati jQuery u njemu?

iako malo sam rezerviran s procjenama, jer obicno nesto na sto sam
hladan postane mega popularno, tako da..

rush

[Dinko Srkoc]

2011/10/10 Davorin Rusevljan <davorin....@gmail.com>:

U technical overview piše o stdlibu - postoji core lib i DOM lib i za
ovaj potonji:

"Contains interfaces to the HTML5 DOM, loosely based on the proposed
HTML5 standard as specified by the W3C/WHATWG. These interfaces will
evolve in parallel with the HTML5 standards."

U "Design Goals" dijelu tog overviewa jedna od točaka je ova:

"Make Dart feel familiar and natural to programmers and thus easy to learn."

To objašnjava općeniti meh dojam i razlog zašto bi se širokim
programerskim masama taj jezik zapravo mogao svidjeti.

- oknid

[Ivan Budiselic]

Cini mi se kao "just another language", ali to sam nekako i ocekivao.
Naime, ako Google planira to koristiti i kako je tamo Java uvjerljivo
glavni jezik, a i dosta projekata koristi GWT, Java-likeness je u neku
ruku logican izbor, koliko god se to mnogima od nas ne svidja :). Po
tom kriteriju, rekao bih da bi glavesine u Netscapeu bile tada
zadovoljnije da im je Eich predstavio Dart umjesto JavaScripta ;).

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[Davorin Rusevljan]

2011/10/10 Dinko Srkoc <dinko...@gmail.com>:

> U technical overview piše o stdlibu - postoji core lib i DOM lib i za
> ovaj potonji:
>
> "Contains interfaces to the HTML5 DOM, loosely based on the proposed
> HTML5 standard as specified by the W3C/WHATWG. These interfaces will
> evolve in parallel with the HTML5 standards."

Mda, ali ako ja dobro sudim po ovom primjeru:

https://code.google.com/p/dart/source/browse/branches/bleeding_edge/dart/client/samples/spirodraw/Spirodraw.dart

to je "celavi" - osnovni DOM bez prakticnih djidja iz jQuery-a koje bi
ga cinile puno pitkijim za rad.

rush

[Dobrica Pavlinusic]

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 05:34:56PM +0200, Davorin Rusevljan wrote:
> 2011/10/10 Dinko Srkoc <dinko...@gmail.com>:

> > U technical overview pi�e o stdlibu - postoji core lib i DOM lib i za

> > ovaj potonji:
> >
> > "Contains interfaces to the HTML5 DOM, loosely based on the proposed
> > HTML5 standard as specified by the W3C/WHATWG. These interfaces will
> > evolve in parallel with the HTML5 standards."
>
> Mda, ali ako ja dobro sudim po ovom primjeru:
>
> https://code.google.com/p/dart/source/browse/branches/bleeding_edge/dart/client/samples/spirodraw/Spirodraw.dart
>
> to je "celavi" - osnovni DOM bez prakticnih djidja iz jQuery-a koje bi
> ga cinile puno pitkijim za rad.

M, da... Ne�e me natjerati da pre�em na njega zbog lijepog DOM API-ja
:-)

Meni se �ini da Google poku�ava ugurati type-ove u JavaScript, prvo sa
compajlerom a sada sa jezikom :-)