- Martyrdom should never be praised. - 1 Update
- October and November Lakeside Freethinker meetings - 5 Updates
- Digest for lakeside-f...@googlegroups.com - 8 updates in 1 topic - 1 Update
- Charlie Kirk and martyrdom - 2 Updates
- Freethinker Meetings October 15 and November 19 - 1 Update
Rich Birkett <rbir...@freedomactivist.org>: Sep 23 12:15AM -0600
Lloyd-
I agree there may be some instances where dying for a cause is
praiseworthy. Jordan Peterson said beliefs are worth dying for. Before
Peterson turned theist, he was an atheist. Would he say that his past
atheist beliefs are worth dying for? I can't think of any situation
where I have to choose death to defend my beliefs.
-Rich
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lloyd kumley <lloy...@gmail.com>: Sep 22 04:34PM -0600
Greetings Lakeside Freethinkers !
I hope you are enjoying Fall, 2025, wherever you are!
Will enough of us be lakeside in Chapala / Ajijic, Mexico for our October
16 and /or November 20 meetings to have in person meetings at Yves
Restaurant?
Please reply to this message by saying whether you will be lakeside for our
meetings in October and/or November on the third Thursday? (Yesterday's
notice said we meet on Wednesdays... My mistake! You don't need to respond
again, as 9 of you already have... Thanks! )
Yes, I will be lakeside by October 16----
Yes I will be lakeside by November 20---
I'm looking forward to greeting you personally !
Thanks, Lloyd Kumley, Chair
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david...@seanet.com: Sep 22 05:52PM -0700
See below or October no,
November si!
> notice said we meet on Wednesdays... My mistake! You don't need to respond
> again, as 9 of you already have... Thanks! )
> Yes, I will be lakeside by October 16----
_-------------- No (estados Unidos)
> Yes I will be lakeside by November 20---
_----------------- Si, a casa ya
Carole Wolff <rotari...@gmail.com>: Sep 23 03:23AM -0600
Will plan attending both in person meetings in October and November at Yves.
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Carol Towne <carol...@gmail.com>: Sep 23 06:50AM -0600
I am not Carole Wolf and unfortunately I will not be back in heat for the
October and November meetings.
Hopefully I will be there in December though.
Thank you, Carol Towne
Stephen Segall <sseg...@yahoo.com>: Sep 23 03:22PM
Hello, Freethinkers
Back with answers to questions nobody asked, like what is a razor, but hopefully answers people can use.
Who's familiar with the easy way to determine the day of the week from the date? Well, it's easy for the year we're in if one knows that year's "doomsday" is Friday. If we know the date of one Friday per month, we can determine the days that go with the other days that month.
The mnemonic is 7-11 is open 9-5. 7/11, 11/7, 5/9, and 9/5 are all doomsdays every year.
For the even numbered months after February, it's even easier: 4/4, 6/6. 8/8, 10/10, and 12/12 are all doomsdays. This year, they are all Fridays. Next year, they are all Saturdays, in 2027, and they will all be Sundays (in 2028, the doomsday is a Tuesday).
Jan, Feb, and March have their own ad hoc rules.
To include Feb and March, remember that March 0 is a doomsday. This refers to the day before March 1, which varies from Feb 28 to Feb 29 depending on whether it's a leap year, and tells us that Mar 7 is also a doomsday.
January is also a one-off, Jan 3 and 4 being doomsdays according to whether the year is a leap year.
I've found this to be a handy trick to use.
So, let's apply this:
October 16 is a Thursday because 10/10 is a doomsday which is a Friday this year, and so 10/17 is also a Friday and 10/16 a Thursday. Easy peasy.
November 20 is also a Thursday because 11/7 is a doomsday, so 11/21 is also a Friday and 11/20 a Thursday.
What day of the week does Christmas fall on this year? 12/12 is a doomsday (Friday this year), so two weeks later, 12/26 will be a Friday, and Christmas will be on a Thursday. My birthday is 8/14. What day of the week will it be in 2026, when the doomsday is Saturday. 8/8 is a doomsday (Saturday in 2026), so 8/14/26 will be a Friday.
This link goes into more detail for those interested in learning how to do this for any year in any century in either the Julian or Gregorian calendars, which is really a lot of work to learn, but possibly interesting to read for some. What is the day of the week? There's not much practical value to knowing more than how to do the year you're in, or maybe the year before and after, which as we just saw, is fairly simple
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On Tuesday, September 23, 2025 at 06:50:31 AM CST, Carol Towne <carol...@gmail.com> wrote:
I am not Carole Wolf and unfortunately I will not be back in heat for the October and November meetings. Hopefully I will be there in December though. Thank you, Carol Towne
On Tue, Sep 23, 2025, 3:24 AM Carole Wolff <rotari...@gmail.com> wrote:
Will plan attending both in person meetings in October and November at Yves.
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Emily Beebee <pelican...@gmail.com>: Sep 23 07:43AM -0600
Yes I will be at Lakeside Oct 15 and Nov 19.
Emily Beebee
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lloyd kumley <lloy...@gmail.com>: Sep 21 06:40PM -0600
Greetings Lakeside Freethinkers !
I hope you are enjoying Fall, 2025, wherever you are!
Will enough of us be lakeside in Chapala / Ajijic, Mexico for our October
15 and /or November 19 meetings to have in person meetings at Yves
Restaurant?
Please reply to this message by saying whether you will be lakeside for our
meetings in October and/or November?
Yes, I will be lakeside by October 15----
Yes I will be lakeside by November 19---
I'm looking forward to greeting you personally !
Thanks, Lloyd Kumley, Chair
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San Luis 26, Riberas del Pilar.Jalisco, Mexico
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Donna Steadman <dab...@gmail.com>: Sep 21 06:32PM -0700
I will be in Lakeside for the November 19th meeting.
-Dab
Vijay Nilekani <vijayn...@yahoo.com>: Sep 22 02:01AM
Hi Lloyd,
I will unfortunately miss both meetings.
I am flying to San Antonio, Texas on October 13 for some surgery. If it is also on Zoom, I might be able to participate.
I will be in Oaxaca for a family Thanksgiving vacation, departing Guadalajara Airport at 9:00 am on November 19. I will be back in Ajijic November 25.
Cheers,
Vijay
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On Sun, Sep 21, 2025 at 7:32 PM, Donna Steadman<dab...@gmail.com> wrote: I will be in Lakeside for the November 19th meeting.
-Dab
On Sun, Sep 21, 2025 at 5:40 PM lloyd kumley <lloy...@gmail.com> wrote:
Greetings Lakeside Freethinkers !
I hope you are enjoying Fall, 2025, wherever you are!
Will enough of us be lakeside in Chapala / Ajijic, Mexico for our October 15 and /or November 19 meetings to have in person meetings at Yves Restaurant?
Please reply to this message by saying whether you will be lakeside for our meetings in October and/or November?
Yes, I will be lakeside by October 15----
Yes I will be lakeside by November 19---
I'm looking forward to greeting you personally !
Thanks, Lloyd Kumley, Chair
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Felix Billingsley <svang...@hotmail.com>: Sep 22 03:43AM
Hi...I don't yet know whether I will be at Lakeside for the October meeting (however, there's a reasonably good chance that I will be). I should easily be back for the November meeting.
Cheers,
Frosty
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I will be in Lakeside for the November 19th meeting.
-Dab
On Sun, Sep 21, 2025 at 5:40 PM lloyd kumley <lloy...@gmail.com<mailto:lloydk65@gmail.com>> wrote:
Greetings Lakeside Freethinkers !
I hope you are enjoying Fall, 2025, wherever you are!
Will enough of us be lakeside in Chapala / Ajijic, Mexico for our October 15 and /or November 19 meetings to have in person meetings at Yves Restaurant?
Please reply to this message by saying whether you will be lakeside for our meetings in October and/or November?
Yes, I will be lakeside by October 15----
Yes I will be lakeside by November 19---
I'm looking forward to greeting you personally !
Thanks, Lloyd Kumley, Chair
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Linda Jeschofnig <ljesc...@gmail.com>: Sep 21 11:19PM -0600
Yes, Peter and I will be here for both ,,, L
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TomandKathleen Gallier <tomandk...@yahoo.com>: Sep 22 05:46AM
Yes, I can attend on October 15No, I'll be out of the country on November 19
Thanks!
Tom Gallier
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On Sun, Sep 21, 2025 at 6:40 PM lloyd kumley <lloy...@gmail.com> wrote:
Greetings Lakeside Freethinkers !
I hope you are enjoying Fall, 2025, wherever you are!
Will enough of us be lakeside in Chapala / Ajijic, Mexico for our October 15 and /or November 19 meetings to have in person meetings at Yves Restaurant?
Please reply to this message by saying whether you will be lakeside for our meetings in October and/or November?
Yes, I will be lakeside by October 15----
Yes I will be lakeside by November 19---
I'm looking forward to greeting you personally !
Thanks, Lloyd Kumley, Chair
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Bradley Felix <bkfl...@gmail.com>: Sep 22 09:24AM -0600
Good morning,
I will be Lakeside for both of those dates, barring unforeseen
circumstances.
😀
Brad
Peter Jeschofnig <pjesc...@gmail.com>: Sep 22 10:33AM -0600
When putting the new dates in the calendar, I noticed that the meetings
have moved to Wednesdays. That is not a problem for us, but I want to make
sure that it was planned and not an accident.
Cheers,
Peter
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Rich Birkett <rbir...@freedomactivist.org>: Sep 22 04:11PM -0600
I'll preface my comments by saying intentional unjustified violence,
political or otherwise, is unacceptable. However, Charlie Kirk's
memorial service reminded me of a Christian religious revival where Kirk
was praised as a martyr. Jesus was praised as a martyr. Islam rewards
martyrdom with 40 virgins. Militaries use martyrdom with promises of an
immortal afterlife, to motivate soldiers to enter into life-threatening
situations. You may have heard the saying "There are no atheists in
foxholes." Martyrdom should never be praised.
=Rich
Vijay Nilekani <vijayn...@yahoo.com>: Sep 23 04:04AM
Small correction Rich. 72 Virgin's.
The prophet was a glutton for sex. He had 12 wives himself.
On his many military conquests seeking forcible converts, he killed his enemy leaders, and married their most attractive wives or daughters.
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On Mon, Sep 22, 2025 at 4:54 PM, Rich Birkett<rbir...@freedomactivist.org> wrote: I'll preface my comments by saying intentional unjustified violence,
political or otherwise, is unacceptable. However, Charlie Kirk's
memorial service reminded me of a Christian religious revival where Kirk
was praised as a martyr. Jesus was praised as a martyr. Islam rewards
martyrdom with 40 virgins. Militaries use martyrdom with promises of an
immortal afterlife, to motivate soldiers to enter into life-threatening
situations. You may have heard the saying "There are no atheists in
foxholes." Martyrdom should never be praised.
=Rich
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Donna Steadman <dab...@gmail.com>: Sep 22 09:48AM -0700
Oh Peter,
Thank You for noticing that the dates for the next 2 months were
incorrect! Here are true dates for the next 2 meetings::
October 16th
November 20th
Several of you have already responded to Lloyd's request for your
availability to attend these 2 meetings. If this "updated" information
that, please let Lloyd or me know.
Thanks a lot ... and have a good week ahead!
Dab
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