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KANAGASELVARAJ

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Mar 25, 2011, 8:50:28 AM3/25/11
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Dear Mr. Rocky Israni,
 
I wish to bring your notice about one important issue in our esteemed colony.
 
Almost all duct cover made of asbestos sheets are having cracks in  corners near screw ( please see photo).    
 
This is weakening the support  and covers are falling. Even if one open the cover  for any AC  maintenance work, he can not fix the same as before  as all the corners would have come out ( without holes). 
 
Even if we replace with new one, again it will create crack near screw.
 
I saw, the facility is team is replacing the covers.
 
This issue was discussed with your site engineer and  GM  ten  months back.
 
I personally feel instead of replacing the cover again with asbestos you may  use aluminium.   If cost is the issue,  all members can share the cost  and have permanent solution.
 
Await your favorable action.
 
Regards
 
Selvaraj.R
A6-204
 
 
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Rocky Israni

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Mar 25, 2011, 9:44:35 AM3/25/11
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Dear Mr. Varaj,

 

I have personally noticed that some of these bison panels are broken and damaged but this is due to mishandling of these panels during AC installations and maintenance.

 

These Bison board panels are meant for such installations and not cheap by any means, the Architect had a vision of these designer bison panels with cut outs as vents.

 

Changing them to aluminum louvers might not be a practical solution from cost and it won’t look good aesthetically because the openings are very wide, typically aluminum louver openings should be narrow to look good.

 

These bison panels should last a long time so let’s exploit them for few more years before we start spending capital money from members of from our pocket.

 

Let Facility staff keep a vigil on the AC installers to make sure they don’t damage these panels.

 

Thanks

 

 

 

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Rocky Israni

Managing Director

311 Iscon Mall,

Above Star India Bazaar,

Satellite,

Ahmedabad – 380015

Phone: 079-40027785

Fax:   079-40027786

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R K Guhathakurta

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Mar 26, 2011, 7:00:37 AM3/26/11
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Dear Mr. Rocky Israni, MD

Thanks for your educative mail message attempting our lahabitatians to
know the use of Bison Particle Boads used in louver's covers for our
society and please find enclosed herewith the working procedures
required as per IS 14276 - 1995 or its latest revision and the
construction procedures we have adopted during the actual
construction.There are some points, where I do beg to differ with you
and your architect in selecting the dimensional sizes and supporting
procedures of the already positioned particle boards at said locations
in terms of the suitibility of the selection of the material, sizes
and support - design and these are enumerated as:

1.0 Bison Panel Board is cement bonded particle board made out of 62% cement
and 28% wood dust which can resonably withstand a degree of compressive
load but immune to tensile/ bending when erected hanging
situation as has been
done at La - Habitatat for external coverage. This used board
size is around 900
mm x 900 mm ( in maximum location) and 6-8 mm thickness (average). Usually
at the factory point ( there under covered storage area) the average water
absorption is around 9% wnereas when externally used, this board even in
summer are subjected to absorptions moisture from air thus losing
its durability
in partial terms.

2.0 Please refere to page no: 13 of this enclosed documents and note
that no where
in construction by Pacifica at La - Habitat, concerned
contractor has followed
either recommended edge distance, spacing of edge fixing and spacing of
intermediate support @ 400 mm where 6-12 mm boards are used/fixed. This
clarification you may ask from your designer / architect /
constrction engineers
why they have deviated ?

3.0 While using the mechanical screw in fixing such type of boards, usual good
construction practice is to use lock-nuts with an accompanying
metal washers
at the tail-end of the screw. No where this is visible.

Beside, with due regards on your knowledge and wisdom, I do differ on
your comments that your are giving primacy on good aesthetical look of
structure instead of structural durability, sustainbility and
maintenance and operational requirement and use. Please note that La -
Habital is in Ahemedabad, India and not in any european or american
city, where set means , good and proven iner / intra systems are
available within the affordable reach to all concerned. Here actually
lies all the troubles. By saying so, I am not inclined to down grade
my country but like to inform you and your designer that while
selecting any design and materials please undersatnd the suitibility
at the first instance and don't get carried away by good talks and
apparent looks. I do till believe that use of BBP panels is good for
inetrior decorative wall cladding. Suggestion of use of unglazed 3 mm
thickness aluminium panels as covers of exiting louvers by some of our
distinguished member will not look bad even aesthetically in the given
situation wherin, we all looking for long sustainbility and durability
of structure may be necessary for repeated maintenance of outer units
of concealed split air conditioners.

I am looking forward an early response from you. with this I remain.
Onceagain with thanks and regards,

( R . K. Guha Thakurta)
A- 7 / 303, La - Habitat.

On 3/25/11, Rocky Israni <ris...@pacificacompanies.com> wrote:
> Dear Mr. Varaj,
>
>
>
> I have personally noticed that some of these bison panels are broken and
> damaged but this is due to mishandling of these panels during AC
> installations and maintenance.
>
>
>
> These Bison board panels are meant for such installations and not cheap by
> any means, the Architect had a vision of these designer bison panels with
> cut outs as vents.
>
>
>
> Changing them to aluminum louvers might not be a practical solution from
> cost and it won’t look good aesthetically because the openings are very
> wide, typically aluminum louver openings should be narrow to look good.
>
>
>
> These bison panels should last a long time so let’s exploit them for few
> more years before we start spending capital money from members of from our
> pocket.
>
>
>
> Let Facility staff keep a vigil on the AC installers to make sure they don’t
> damage these panels.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

> cid:image0...@01C8A77A.66B84460


>
>
>
> Rocky Israni
>
> Managing Director
>
> 311 Iscon Mall,
>
> Above Star India Bazaar,
>
> Satellite,
>
> Ahmedabad – 380015
>
> Phone: 079-40027785
>
> Fax: 079-40027786
>

> <mailto:ris...@pacificacompanies.com> ris...@pacificacompanies.com
>
>
>
> <http://www.pacificacompanies.com> www.pacificacompanies.com
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R K Guhathakurta
INDIA

Tech_Handbook - IS 17276 - BISON PARTICLE BOARDS.pdf

SELVARAJ - GUJARAT

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Nov 18, 2013, 10:00:30 PM11/18/13
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For info.  Hope you will be having this communication.

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Date: Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 5:50 AM
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A6-204

 

 

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3/25/11

 

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Dear Mr. Varaj,

I have personally noticed that some of these bison panels are broken and damaged but this is due to mishandling of these panels during AC installations and maintenance.

These Bison board panels are meant for such installations and not cheap by any means, the Architect had a vision of these designer bison panels with cut outs as vents.

Changing them to aluminum louvers might not be a practical solution from cost and it won’t look good aesthetically because the openings are very wide, typically aluminum louver openings should be narrow to look good.

These bison panels should last a long time so let’s exploit them for few more years before we start spending capital money from members of from our pocket.

Let Facility staff keep a vigil on the AC installers to make sure they don’t damage these panels.

Thanks

 

 

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Rocky Israni

Managing Director

311 Iscon Mall,

Above Star India Bazaar,

Satellite,

Ahmedabad – 380015

Phone: 079-40027785

Fax:   079-40027786

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SELVARAJ - GUJARAT

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Nov 18, 2013, 10:06:13 PM11/18/13
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One can find solution from this link, which will be durable. Umesh from B1   can help getting the material at good price  as he was working in senior  position

 

 

http://www.kemrock.com/louvers.php

 

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Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 5:19 AM
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Subject: Fwd: Emailing: 25032011555, 25032011556, 25032011557, 25032011558

 

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Open for any support to get out of such issues.

Umesh
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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 19:06:13 -0800
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Ajith Varma

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Nov 19, 2013, 9:53:09 AM11/19/13
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Dear Members,
Let us take up issues one by one. Another matter to be addressed is the broken drainage covers on the railway track side of the society road.
As per our AGM, annual maintenance charges was fi...@Rs.2000 per month for members  and Rs.2500 for the houses given on rent. For the convenience of collection the amount is required to be paid as a lump sum.
Recently one of our members who paid Rs 30,000 for full year  returned to the society for self occupation and requested in writing  to refund the excess paid for the remaining months. Unfortunately he got a negative answer saying that there no policy for refund etc.etc. As our charges are fixed on a monthly basis ,in my opinion we must refund  Rs.500 month for the period subsequent to the vacation of the property by the tenant.
Please be positive and proactive....
 
Regards,
Ajith Varma @A8-102
 

Dhavan Desai

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Nov 19, 2013, 12:27:59 PM11/19/13
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Lol.. policy.. who makes policy.. it sounds like raguram rajan making policy for rbi and la habitat..

Learned committee members do not bother to reply on mails.. i wonder do all of them have email accounts and do they know how to operate .. responding is little far fetched idea..

Am not sure why this forum has opened up again..we are hitting the wall again..

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