Call for Linux or open source presentations!

[Matthew - Orange Computer]

Hey everyone,

The Linux User Group meeting is on Thursday, February 20th starting at 6pm.

Call for presentations (short or long). Have you been working on project you'd like to share? Or want to present a technology or Linux distro that you've been exploring? Want to do a bash scripting demo to show off your skills? 

  -- Matthew from Orange Computer

[whitem]

I should be able to make the meeting.

Michael

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[Matthew - Orange Computer]

I am also happy to present on some of the Linux things I've been up to. Want to make sure to give anyone who wants to speak the opportunity to do so, though.

Feel free to take a look at some of the recent Linux related videos I've published and let me know if you'd like more information or a live demo of any of the topics:

https://lbry.tv/@retroedge.tech:4

   -- Matthew from Orange Computer

[John E. Conlon]

If there is an interest, I could give a talk and demo on:

A. The OpenSource multi-platform IDE VS Code

 and hold on to your seats, it is developed and offered for free by Microsoft!  I really like this IDE for developing on my Linux Ubuntu desktop.  I use it for JavaScript (node) on the server side; Javascript on the client side; Web PWAs; & Python!  It will do many more languages as well. Its easy to install and develop with. 

B. General discussion of User Interface development and deployment

C. PWA introduction, why its cool and should be your target for creating user interfaces

D. Simple PWA utilizing HTML5, CSS, Javascript

John

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[Michael J White]

It was a great talk on VS Code.  I had trouble following some of it (even when we were not in the talk), but I installed it on two of my computers and will start playing with it.

I am still unclear on PWA and want to find a simpler review of that.

The attached file is one that I sat down and wrote up this afternoon, mostly while my oil was being changed at Dahl.

Feel free to point out anything that is unclear or if my numbers are wrong anywhere.

Michael

[John E. Conlon]

Regarding PWA:  Check out this video...

Regarding Virus:  Install anti-virus protection;-(

[John E. Conlon]

Eboloa Light: Interesting interview...

[John E. Conlon]

Concentrated monopoly power has the means to mask its greed with a green wash.

[David Klann]

Hi. John,

Not sure if you meant to send this to the group or just to Tom... While my views are aligned with those in the report you link to, I'm not sure an article like that is relevant to this forum.

I mean, on the one hand, I'm glad to have read it. On the other hand, what does it have to do with Linux? On the other other hand, isn't freedom from capitalist structures what Linux is all about? What do others think?

  ~d

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Concentrated monopoly power has the means to mask its greed with a green wash.

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[Bob Haugen]

I thought it was good that John posted it and I had not seen the
article before.

Relevance to Linux? MSFT, historically, is the anti-Linux (altho they
have been changing their tone a bit since Gates and Ballmer no longer
run the show). Close enuf for mailing list work?

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[David Klann]

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Fair enough. I didn't want to come off as a "list cop", just wanted to stir
the hornets nest a bit. :)

~David

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[Bob Haugen]

Nah, I didn't take it as list-coppy, just raising the question. And
I'm just throwing peanuts from the gallery. Maybe other people agree
with you, and the boundaries of what's-on-topic are always debatable.

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[John E. Conlon]

Thanks David for stirring the hive...'bzzzz'!

A major goal of Linux and Open Source is to make available a
collaborative model for intellectual development and advancement. Open
source movement ideals are a counter to the monopolistic approach of
using technology as a means to lock users into a financially extractive
technology matrix.

> On the other other hand, isn't freedom from
> capitalist structures what Linux is all about? What do others think?

Its not capitalistic structures, which within healthy limits work quite
well, its that Microsoft have striven for and have achieved a technical
monopoly and reduced intellectual openness.

Monopolies have negative ramifications as understood by our Anglo and
American classical economic fore-bearers, where the concentration of
capital tip the scales to self centered vs public interests.  This is
why anti-trust laws were put in place. To protect the public from lock
in, foster competition  and avoid over concentration of capital .
Unfortunately, these Anti-Trust laws were not used in the case of
Microsoft.

No one can deny that Microsoft has been allowed to become one of the
worlds largest monopolies and the concentration of capital in the hands
of its founder is undeniable. The more visible half of the problem is
what we OpenSource users/advocates have in our sights, the other half is
the topic of my link.

Thought I would provide the link to highlight the second half of the
problem with Microsoft and the Gates Foundation.  While Windows maybe a
pain in the ass, at least like, Bill Gates newer ventures, Windows while
addictive is not poisonous.

BTW - David, sorry you missed our last meeting, where I gave a talk on
Microsoft's Open Source VS Code IDE;-)

John

[David Klann]

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Hey John,

On Thu, 2020-02-27 at 14:06 -0600, you wrote:
> Thanks David for stirring the hive...'bzzzz'!
>
> A major goal of Linux and Open Source is to make available a
> collaborative model for intellectual development and advancement. Open
> source movement ideals are a counter to the monopolistic approach of
> using technology as a means to lock users into a financially extractive
> technology matrix.
>

> ... snip snip snip

>
> Thought I would provide the link to highlight the second half of the
> problem with Microsoft and the Gates Foundation. While Windows maybe a
> pain in the ass, at least like, Bill Gates newer ventures, Windows while
> addictive is not poisonous.

Thanks for this thoughtful response. I agree quite wholeheartedly.

>
> BTW - David, sorry you missed our last meeting, where I gave a talk on
> Microsoft's Open Source VS Code IDE;-)
>

I've actually become a VS Code user. The FIRST Robotics high school robotics
organization recommends it for developing C++ and Java code for robots, and
I've "drunk the kool-aid" and am using it with the Westby High School team for
our Java project this year.

While I still prefer good old Emacs, VS Code is a pretty handy tool.

Oh! And while I'm confessing all things M$, I'll also add that I recently
installed PowerShell for Linux on my laptop. Getting to know that a bit too.
Kind of like Java, it's a bit too "verbose" or "wordy" for my tastes...

~David

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