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Aug 2, 2024, 8:53:34 AM8/2/24

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The likely reason is un acknowledged packets. TCP/IP requires that every packet be acknowleged, but it doesn't require it to happen immediately. At very high transmission rates such as FIOS provides, any delay in ackowledging a packet or delay in re-transmitting a packet may cause the router memory to fill up with subsequent packets, creating the proverbial Gordian knot. You cannot get rid of packets in memory because they haven't been acknowledged, but you cannot get any more acknowledgements, because there is no memory left in the router to receive them! I suspect this is a situation the router doesn't handle gracefully.

If it does, then you have a stressed line problem that only occurs when the line is close to saturated, which is a common problem with lines that are marginal, and would probably require a trouble ticket.

You may also have a issue with fios itself, because you are streaming video you can see it where as if your just going to websites you will not see a network hiccup. I stream netflix all the time with no issues. I highly doubt it is a issue of the router running out of memory, because your router does not store what you are downloading, it is just routing on the packets of info onto the correct mac address that requested the info from the website., it does not buffer them.

I still think it is the router running out of memory. Contrary to what others have said, the router does have to store packets. It is just like any other node on a TCP/IP network. It has to hold onto the packet until the next node up the line has ack'ed sucessful receipt. TCP/IP does require that every sent packet be acknowledge, but to deal effectively with high speed transmission, and long propogation time, it can send the next packet, in fact it can keep on sending packets until the packet is ack'd. The packets do have to be ack'd in order, but It can take a long time. The obvious problem is at very high transmission rates, delays in ack of even due to just propagation delay can chew up a lot of memory in the router. The faster you make the connection, the faster the router will run out of memory, so making the connection faster will make matters worse.

While it is configured that way, some other things may not work, but if the netflix streaming video works without the router, there is your answer. The PC has far more memory available for packets than the router. so is far more tolerant of long delayed acks.

I'm having same issue, waited my 30 minutes with Netflix support and that said "no idea" and that they are working on buffering issue. Has anyone got past this yet? Very frustrating and wonder what is up w/router to just drop like that?

how did you access the ONT outside? all locked up? but after doing so you ran cat 5 cable for that to the inside to a wireless router and use that for internet and leave the actiontec in place for the TV side? did you disable anything in actiontec?

In terms of getting this done with Verizon Tech Support, we need more detail, they are stingy with helping anymore. what number did you call and what was the wording you used? i'm guessing they will say not suppoted so get lost.

Not happy at all about Netflix DVD going away. I've been using it since my freshman year of college (so...2005? Shit, I feel old) and despite using it very regularly (and shifting between 1 to 3 DVDs at a time), I've still got 400 movies in my queue. Dammit.

Before we get started, I hope you\u2019ll give this week\u2019s bonus episode of Across the Movie Aisle a listen; we\u2019re listing the best movies of the century (so far!) and our list is way better than The Hollywood Reporter\u2019s list.

I also hope you\u2019ll join us for the live taping on May 16 at the Crystal City Alamo Drafthouse, where we\u2019re hosting a screening of Wargames (1983) and discussing the apocalyptic moment in 1980s cinema. Tickets are just $7 and they\u2019re going fast (last I checked the showing was 60 percent sold \u2026 better hurry if you want to sit in the stadium-seating part of the auditorium). The Drafthouse site is a little tricky, but click here, scroll down to where you can buy tickets, click \u201CTuesday 5/16,\u201D click \u201CCrystal City\u201D and then choose your seat on the map at the right. It looks like this right now:

Many people were surprised to learn that Netflix was shutting down its DVD-by-mail operation because, hardy-har-har, they were surprised to learn it still existed, period. And that\u2019s all well and fair; even I, a noted advocate for the pleasures of physical media, had long ago ditched the DVD-by-mail portion of Netflix.1

But the passing of Netflix\u2019s DVD arm is notable and sad for the finality and totality of the shift from analog (or, well, physical) to digital that it represents. And that\u2019s worth considering briefly, because while the shift from physical brings certain benefits (streaming is instantaneous and high quality) it also has some decided drawbacks.

The reason Netflix could exist as a business at all is thanks to something called the first-sale doctrine. Without the first-sale doctrine, you wouldn\u2019t have libraries and you wouldn\u2019t have Blockbuster renting out tapes and you wouldn\u2019t have Netflix mailing DVDs. The first-sale doctrine says, simply, that once you have purchased an object you can do with that object as you please. You can let a friend borrow it or you can resell it on the secondary market or you can lend it to a customer for a fee over a period of time.

Importantly, this only applied to the copy you bought: you couldn\u2019t duplicate it and then rent it out or sell the dupe. Because first-sale doctrine was, functionally, limited by the idea that you were losing something if you gave up possession of it. In an age of infinite and free reproduction\u2014like, say, the digital age\u2014first-sale doctrine gets tricky.

DVD Netflix worked like any other business governed by the first-sale doctrine: Netflix bought a thousand copies of, I dunno, Zoolander and then sent them to members by mail, who then sent them back. Whether that entailed dealing directly with the studio or going to 100 Best Buys and buying 10 copies at a whack, it didn\u2019t matter. But Streaming Netflix couldn\u2019t work that way. With streaming, you weren\u2019t paying for a physical disc that you could do whatever you want with, you were paying for a license to show it to, theoretically, a million people simultaneously.

Early in the Streaming Netflix era this was fine because there weren\u2019t many competitors and Netflix was throwing buckets of money at companies to get their movies on streaming. (How the studios sowed the seeds of their own hardship is a newsletter topic for another day.) But in the modern streaming era this is a modest annoyance for viewers who now have to research where a movie is streaming. And sometimes it\u2019s a disaster for viewers, as the movie in question might not be streaming at all, as streaming rights not-infrequently get held up for reasons that are at best opaque and at worst unresolvable. (Try to find Kevin Smith\u2019s Dogma on a legal site, and then Google why you can\u2019t. Gonna be a while before that one shows up, probably.)

Anyway, there are other reasons it\u2019s unfortunate that DVD-by-mail is going the way of the horse and buggy (believe it or not, there are still people who live in a place where they simply cannot access high-speed internet). But the evolution away from first-sale doctrine to negotiated streaming rights has made things somewhat more complicated for viewers and businesses alike.

Really enjoyed previewing the summer box office with Frank Pallotta on The Bulwark Goes to Hollywood last week; tomorrow I\u2019ve got an episode with David Herrin of The Quorum dropping focused on a new study about consumer behavior at movie theaters. That\u2019ll pop into your inbox tomorrow or you can sign up on iTunes here. And if you wouldn\u2019t mind leaving a rating/review, it\u2019d really help.

I didn\u2019t watch season one or season two of Picard because I\u2019d heard mixed-to-bad things. But then people started buzzing about season three, so I checked it out. And let me tell you: I\u2019ve never felt more pandered to in my life and I loved every second of it. It\u2019s just reference after reference to the original run of TNG (with a healthy dose of Dominion War stuff from DS9 tossed in for good measure). It\u2019s like someone sat down and said \u201CThe piggies just want nostalgic slop, so we\u2019re going to give them as much nostalgic slop as we possibly can.\u201D As a piggie myself, all I can say is thank you. Shove more memories down my gullet, I can take anything you can dish out.

Why? Honestly, it came down to image quality: Blu-rays weren\u2019t always available via Netflix and I got to the point in my life where I\u2019d literally rather just pay for an instant HD stream on Amazon\u2019s video rental service than wait for several days for a 480p disc to show up in the mail.

Anyone else with the XiOne, having issues with netflix?
ALL other streaming apps work fine on the box, netflix will not load.
Brings up the logo, spins for a bit, then says cant connect.

Doing some of the netflix app tests, says its not connected to the internet.
Obviously the box is and works with everything else.

Have rebooted, etc all already.

Netflix seems to work fine on my XiOne and Xi6-T set-top boxes. However, it looks like the stored app data got reset on the XiOne -- when I launched the app, I got the initial sign-in screen and had to log into the app again.

ITs been working fine on my other boxes.
I have since tried doing the reset of netflix from pressing A, as well as when I get into that netflix diag menu a reset there (probably doing the same thing).

Same issue.

My next thought, would be a full factory rest on the whole box?