i bought a titleist 983k 9.5 driver from ebay and it came with a stiff proforce gold 65 (tip stiff) shaft. it says low torque on it as well. and i was always an ok driver...but when i start swinging this guy...i just can't control it...but i am absolutely fine when i go back to my r7 limited with the aldila nvs stiff flex....
That was a good shaft back in the day. Had one in a 975J, and killed it. I think it's an older shaft and an older (smaller) head. Not as satble as many of the newer shafts but alot of guys still game the old 983K.
I just switched from an R5 with the NVS stiff shaft to an R7 limited with the proforce 65 shaft. Haven't been able to play it yet, weather just finally breaking here in michigan. I have hit a dozen or so out on to my frozen lake a couple of weeks ago. For the first swings of the year- my ball fly was a touch lower than with the R5, but my little draw was still there. I bought it prior to getting fitted for my new AP2's, and checking my swing speed, but was just trying to closely match what I was familiar with. I think it will work out just fine, my ss with driver is 118-120, but should drop a hair when I start playing and trying to hit fairways instead of ripping them off the range. I can't wait to get out and play my new sticks.....
I think you probably have a V2 in your Limited. OP is talking about the original Proforce Gold with the purple lettering. Although if you did find a Limited with the original Proforce in it, that's certainly an interesting combo.
"think you probably have a V2 in your Limited. OP is talking about the original Proforce Gold with the purple lettering. Although if you did find a Limited with the original Proforce in it, that's certainly an interesting combo."
The UST GOLD 65 is Amazing! I play a lighter flex than you but try hard stepping a R-flex if you feel like staying with that shaft still. But this is my favorite shaft in the bag!!! the V2's are great but this shaft feels stiffer and more stable.
I really like the proforce gold... especially considering how long they have been around. I played on in my sub $20 driver setup I had awhile back (Free Shaft pull from my dad, and a $13 head from golfsmith) it actually was a fairly decent combo. Bought 3 of them on ebay for a total of like $24 + shipping, put two of them in fairway woods for my dad and have one more sitting around.
These shafts are great I have them in my superquad and nike sumo2 4 wood. They produce nice mid tragectory with excellent control. Tip stiff provides me with more roll as well compared to the mid tip stock shafts that the superquad came with.
You are absolutely right, the Pro Force 65 gold is one of the most overrated and least playable shafts ever. I got it about 10 yrs ago in a Titleist driver. I'm a daily swimmer & 3x/wk. basketball player with a good late release and still found this shaft to be pure board. My guess is you have to have Steve Garvey forearms to make it work. If you're not worried about appearances and just want a shaft that works every time for real humans, get the EI-70+ or EI-70 II in stiff. It's the Honda Accord of wood shafts.
I have this exact club sitting in my basement. Got it from Dunhams almost 15 years ago! LOL. I wonder if it goes any farther than the 280 it used to... i only stopped playing it when the 400+CC stuff came out, but have to wonder what it would be like to revisit it.
Funny this thread came back to life today. Ive got an old Tour Edge 375cc driver with a PF Gold 65 that I took to the range today. I can still hit it just as far as anything else. I picked up a new PF Gold 65 from Dicks today and gonna try it in a few driver heads. The old club just loads perfectly for me and I either hit it dead straight or about a 10 yd draw. Im sure the new one doesnt feel the same. The old one is listed at 2.8 torque, new one is 3.4.
I currently play a 909D3 9.5 loft with UST proforce V2 76X, I have a friend that wants to sell his 910D3 8.5 loft with a MFT Ahina 82x. I don't mind the heavier shaft because the 76x is pretty light to me but what I'm worried about are the launch and spin. The torque is a bit higher for the ahina but lower launching. I've heard great things about the MFT ahina and I was wondering if I would get a similar flight and spin with the MFT ahina 82x compared to my V2 76x. I have a quick tempo and I've loved the whiteboard when I demo'd the 909D3 whiteboard, I was told the Ahina is the whiteboard but they just changed the name. If anyone here can give me some input/feedback I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks
The Ahina will have a different feel than the Pro Force, smoother, with same low launch and spin characterisitics. Depending upon tipping of your Pro Force, if it is different than standard, the Ahina if tipped an additional 1/2" would play exactly as true Diamana shafts. Another shaft to consider would be project X, i the 83 gram version. Very smooth feel, low launch and spin. I have it in a 910D3 7.5 and love it compared to others. It is very similar in flight to both Ahina and pro Force but better feel, not a boardy, even if quick transition tempo. The good thing about the 910 series is that shafts are readily available with tips from authorized dealers, and are reasonable priced. good luck in your ventures.
Thanks Robert J for your reply. Helped me ease my mind a little bit and knowing that if I tip it 1/2 inch that it plays like a true ahina.
My friend lives on the west coast so I can't really hit it but I think I'll pull the trigger on it because I've read the reviews on the MFT ahina along with the D3 and I'm loving what I'm hearing.
I currently have the Ahina Whiteboard on my Driver, 3 wood, and hybrid. I absolute love it! Overall the flex point is more towards the middle to lower end of the shaft, so with your quick tempo you dont have to worry about the shaft spinning or flipping over too quickly. At first with the heavier shaft if may seem odd, but once you get use to it, it really makes the swing smoother and easier to get it into the air.
I use to be stuck on the Proforce V2. Great shaft. If you are a big fan of it and want to try a heavier shaft, give the Proforce V2 86x a try. Personally, as a past user of the V2 I was not a fan of the MFT Ahina. I know a lot of people who have tipped it and love that shaft. Just give them both a shot, see which you like better.
So i hit the ahina this weekend. saturday i hit it at the range and was messing around with the settings and D-1 seemed to keep the ball flight down and let me hit a nice little fade every time. The shaft though did feel a little soft to me. I hit a couple of balls that went a little too high for my liking. I'm seriously considering tipping it so it plays like a real ahina because when I played 18 holes today I had to tee the ball low in order for it to not get too high on me. Question is, Do i tip it an inch or 1/2 an inch? Mine right now plays at 45 inches and I don't mind tipping it half an inch because I won't lose that much distance but a whole inch seems not even worth it. My local golf course has a certified titleist fitter and I talked to him and said that the Titleist ferrule and tipping will cost me about $35 which isn't much to me. Thanks again this place is great for getting advice from fellow Titleist weekenders.
Played my 910D3 this weekend. Took it to the range on saturday and at first it was hard to keep the launch down, I teed the ball up a little lower and that brought it down to my usual launch. It's really a smooth shaft, never felt boardy. With all that said I'm thinking about tipping it so it can play like the real ahina but how much will that bring the launch down? I took it to the course on sunday and surprisingly enough I got more distance than my 909D3. It's a great driver and I love it but I had a hard time controlling it. But before I do tip it, I would like to get at least one more range session with it before I decide on that. So I wanted to ask do I tip it half an inch or a full inch for it to play like the real ahina? I heard it both on here and on another forum. Thanks
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