Bit of Scotland on Westwood Bl. for incredible fried chicken.
Any others you miss?
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The Pantry (pre-Riorden) - Early Sunday morning buckwheat cakes and coffee,
2 a.m. butterflied top sirloin with hash browns and coleslaw.
Vickman's (when Vickman still owned it) - Early morning breakfasts with my
dad, eaves dropping on all the garment district wheeling and dealing. I
never figured out how the waitresses found where we sat down to bring our
food? Gigantic fresh strawberry pies in season.
Gorky's - Funky and hip 80's cold-war-communist-cool place for interesting
Russian/American fusion wannabe fare and one of the first microbreweries on
LA. Great conversations on politics and Tolstoy day and night.
Benita's Frietes Santa Monica 3rd St. Promenade - Who wants to run to City
Walk for fries?
Original Pink's chili (before all the old timer counterpeople left) - Those
of us who grew up on the stuff know they version they serve now is a bland,
pale, starchy remnant of the spicy purple concoction of the old days.
The John Bull Pub - The only thing worth eating there was the superb fresh
fish and chips with a cold pitcher of Newcastle Brown Ale with a
thick/creamy head and a blackcurrant crumble for dessert. We really needed
another El Cholo, didn't we?
Hamburger Hamlet (original owners) - The hamburgers really used to be good
and we would make special trips there for the Lobster Bisque.
The Magic Pan in Beverly Hills - I miss the creamed chicken crepes, the pea
soup with a tiny carafe of sherry and the vanilla ice cream dessert crepe
with chocolate sauce!
The Broadway Wilshire Tearoom - At least if I was going to be dragged
shopping, I could look forward to ordering anything I wanted and wolfing
down those famous hot buttered popovers while the food was coming! The food
was really good too. Somehow a hot dog and Coke outside Costco just isn't
the same thing.
The lunch counter in the 5 and Dime in Beverly Hills. After shopping at
Smith's Food King we would walk across the alley and have a real hamburger,
fries and shake at the old counter. They even had the metal cups with the
pointy cone paper liners for ice water!
Dolores's Drive-in at the corner of La Cienega and Wilshire - Last vestige
of old time LA gone in favor of a Red Lobster. How truly sad. Who couldn't
love a double cheeseburger, fries and a cherry-lime-rickey hanging from your
window!
A&W Root Beer stand on Santa Monica Blvd. in Santa Monica - 110 degrees in
the summers of the early 80's, and we stop in for a real frosty (glass) mug
of A&W Root Beer on tap. You haven't really had root beer until you've had
it this way! Who remembers the tiny A&W stand next to the bandstand at the
County Faire? After a hot day walking around and eating every fried food
known to man, that frosty glass mug was such a treat!
That's all I can think of for now. It's nice to think back on this stuff
every once in a while.
-Ed I.
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Oh how I miss the Tick Tock on Cahuenga in Hollywood. As a young upstart
me and my coworkers would love going there for dinner occasionally.
Where else would give you 2 kinds of sweet rolls and sherbet to clear
your palette before the main course?
Also there is still a Hot Dog Show in Touluca Lake. It's old, funky and
still going strong.
> Any others you miss?
Yup,
Cheerios in Santa Monica
If there's anything like it around today please let me know.
jim
Los Feliz Inn
Swiss Echo
Mon Arc
Marshall Fuss
Hamburger Henry's on Wilshire in SM where I thought Royal Star still is.......
The Swiss Cafe in BH
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> Dolores's Drive-in at the corner of La Cienega and Wilshire - Last vestige
> of old time LA gone in favor of a Red Lobster. How truly sad. Who couldn't
> love a double cheeseburger, fries and a cherry-lime-rickey hanging from your
> window!
You do realize that there is still a walk-in Dolores' on Santa Monica
Blvd. a block east of the Royal Theater in WLA. The food is
identical to that of the old drive-in (Jumbo Jim, Suzi-Q potatoes and
a cherry-lime-rickey can still be had there!) Admittedly, this place
lacks the je ne sais quoi of the old drive-in, which was my hang-out
all through high school and beyond. But it's good to know that such
comfort food is still available, unlike...
SHIPS and my all-time favorite burger the Shipshape, which old-timers
here may remember I've eulogized several times before on la.eats.
Oh, for a time machine and the ability to go back and taste this
masterpiece once more...
--Ken Rudolph
I just don't get it. Maybe it's a generational thing, but I can't believe
so many people in this group lament the demise of Ships. To me it was like
any other diner I've ever been to.
Dimitri
I appreciate the suggestion! I actually ate at Royal Star once a few months
ago and had a not so great experience. Our party of 3 sat down and waited
forever for the waiter. After 15 minutes a young guy comes over and we ask
him some questions about the food. He knew absolutely nothing about any of
the dishes on the menu. After having to go ask twice about various things,
we asked him what the special fresh whole fish of the day was. He left and
disappeared into the kitchen to go find out and he never came back to the
table! He even had the nerve to continue serving the table across from us
and he simply ignored us when we tried call him over. Finally the Maitre d'
realized what happened and came over. He apologized profusely and when the
waiter came back over they had a big discussion and the waiter walked out
the front door! The Maitre d' said he fired him right then and there. We
were quite stunned. We have never had that happen before. The food was
pretty good but not spectacular. I confess to only knowing what to order in
one of these Hong Kong style restaurants from postings here. I am just not
clear on what are Cantonese specialties and what should not be ordered. I
also wish I had a list of what Dim Sum to try too.
The only thing is that, as good as it is, it really isn't the old style
Chinese food like Madme Wu's. I know the food I am looking for is really
Americanized Chinese food and has little relationship to REAL regional
Chinese specialties. I am sure many people are glad to see the old places
go in favor of authenticity. I am not one of them. I see a place for both.
The last place that has a shred of that old time flavor left is Twin Dragon
on Pico. Their food is not really very good and I hardly eat there at all
anymore.
-Ed I.
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Sure I realize that there is still a walk-in Dolores'! I have been there
many times. Je ne sais quoi is the ticket! It's just not the same. I feel
the same way about eating at any Tommy's other than Rampart. I've got to be
sitting on a cement ledge in the parking lot across the street, dripping
globs of chili on the asphalt or It just doesn't feel right.
Good old Ships. Consistently mediocre food with several bright spots on the
greasy laminated menus. The Shipshape, the chicken pie with real mashed
potatoes, good fried chicken. I miss them all. Whenever I eat breakfast
anywhere I still wonder why there isn't a toaster on the table. lol
-Ed I.
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<snip>
> clear on what are Cantonese specialties and what should not be ordered. I
> also wish I had a list of what Dim Sum to try too.
I am so glad someone brought this up. There used to a be a regular here
that would bring this topic up on a regular basis, but he has disapeared.
For Hamburger Hamlet, try Kate Matelini in BH. The original owners of
Hamburger Hamlet, and certainly nothing the same, but if you pick it right
you will get a good meal,,,,,,,,,, and they are open early and late.
Vickman零, now there is a memory. I loved going there when I first
started working downtown. It was not great but it certainly was lively
and fun.
Gorkys,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I could never figure out.
Magic Pan, a throw back to seeing my late uncle going crazy in there
watching the pans going round and round on that burner.
Swiss Echo, my first date with a lovely lady. (reads I had no dough)
Cherios, the first date I had with my wife. (reads trying to show off)
Here are mine, please pardon the caps, they came off a data base:
LITTLE VIENNA WHITSETT & MOORPARK 50's - 80's CHARMING, INEXPENSIVE,
GOOD HOMEY FOOD AND ENTERTAINMENT, CLOSED ONE DAY, NO NOTICE, NEVER TO
REOPEN
CHEVALIER零 CHAUENGA 50'S- 60'S HOME OF MAUIRCE CHEVALIAT, GREETED AND SAT YOU
PEEKS VICTORY & COLDWATER 50' - 60'S SITE OF ONE OF ONE OF THE FIRST
MCDONALDS, SAME CONCEPT AND FOOD BUT WITH CAR HOP
THE ORIGINAL MATT & TONI'S VICTORY & COLDWATER 50'S - 70'S HOME OF THE
BEST SUBMARINE SANDWICH EVER
BISTRO BEVERLY HILLS 60'S - 90'S CLOSED BY ONE STUPID ANTI-SEMETIC REMARK
TAIL O THE COCK VENTURA & COLDWATER 50'S - 80'S CLOSED BY THE POOR SOUL
THAT TRIED TO BUILD A SHOPPING CENTER AT COLDWATER & VENTURA
THE JETTY MALIBU 70'S - 80'S OPENEND AND MOVED A FEW TIMES DUE TO
FIRES CHANGING PLACES WITH GLADSTONE'S, SECOND DATE WITH WIFEYPIE
SCANDIA SUNSET STRIP 50'S - 70'S INSTITUTION, CLOSED BY HEALTH DEPT
MANY TIMES FOR RESERVING BUTTER AND THE LIKES TO TABLES
THE GOLDEN BULL SUNSET STRIP 50'S - 70'S WITH THE BULL ON THE ROOF,
STEAK - CHOP HOUSE
THE BAGEL FAIRFAX & OLYMPIC 40'S - 90'S INSTITUTION DELI THAT WENT TO THE DOGS
CARLO'S & CHARLIES SUNSET STRIP 60'S - 80'S TERRIBLE EXPENSIVE MEXICAN
"STYLE" FOOD
OLD WORLD SUNSET STRIP & WESTWOOD 70'S - 80'S SANDWICHES, SALADS
INEXPENSIVE FUN PLACE
THE GREAT AMERICAN FOOD & BEVERAGE COMPANY SANTA MONICA 70'S - 80'S
SINGING WAITERS, GIGANTIC PORTIONS OF MEIDOCRE FOOD, FUN PLACE
COLUMBO'S DOWTOWN 50'S - 60'S MY FIRST PIZZA
MAN FOOK LOW DOWNTOWN 40'S - 70'S TERRIBLE FILTHY CONTONESE JOINT ON SAN
PEDRO NEXT TO NEW MOON
NEW MOON RESTAURANT DOWNTOWN 40'S - 70'S MAYBE INVENTED THE CHINESE
CHICKEN SALAD?
MEL'S LANDING VAN NUYS 60'S - 80'S GREAT SEAFOOD, DIED FROM FAMILY ILL
HEALTH
JOE WOOS NORTH HOLLYWOOD 50'S - 80'S ONE OF THE GREAT ORIGINAL CANTONESE
RESTAURANTS IN THE VALLEY, PATRIARCH'S DEATH AND FAMILY DISPUTES KILLED
THIS PLACE (A&W IS PRETTY GOOD)
MON KEES ENCINO 90'S ONLY GREAT CANTONESE SEAFOOD PLACE TO EVER HIT THE
VALLEY, A LAWSUIT & BANKRUPTCY SUPPOSEDLY DID THIS ESTABLISHMENT IN
LA SERE STUDIO CITY 70'S - 90'S EXPENSIVE CHI CHI PLACE FOR THE
"INDUSTRY", REPLACED BY PINOT BISTRO
THE ORIGINAL HOT DOG SHOW STUDIO CITY 50'S - 60'S KITCHEY, PAINTINGS OF
COMICAL PUPS GRACED THE WALLS, REPLACED BY A GAS STATION, NEXT TO WHERE
THE TAIL O THE COCK WAS, NOW THE BISTRO GARDENS
GILLILAND'S SANTA MONICA 80'S - 90'S GILLILANDS FLAGSHIP RESTAURANT
CLOSED WHILE HER TWO OTHERS WITHIN A BLOCK REMAIN
BOULANGERIE SANTA MONICA 70'S-80'S HOME OF THE BAKERY AND CASUAL
BIRSTO FARE (WHO OWNS THIS REAL ESTATE? WHAT A WEENIE!)
STEAK HOUSE TEN ENCINO 70'S IMHO THE BEST TEPPAN BAR EVER,
INCREADABLE GARLICKY/PEPPERY FRIED CHICKEN MORSEL APPETIZER
THE CHERRY HOUSE NORTH HOLLYWOOD 60'S-70'S DINER/CANDY STORE/SODA
FOUNTAIN TURNED PINBALL ARCADE
THE TUBE STEAK NORTH HOLLYWOOD 60'S-70'S DOGGY STAND, MY FATHER'S
FAVE, NOW A GUN STORE
CES'T FAN FAN RAMPART 90'S GOURMET COOKED IN FRONT OF YOU BY CHEF KAKI,
ONE OF MY FAVORITE RESTAURANTS OF ALL TIME
MADAM WOO'S SANTA MONICA 60-90'S GREAT AMERICANIZED CANTONESE FOOD
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I'm glad to see someone mention the Tick Tock. When I was a kid in the '70s
that was my family's traditional Mother's Day place. Where else could you get
Rabbit, sticky buns and sherbert?
I also miss Matt & Tony's Sub Shop in North Hollywood, but even more I miss
Steak Burger. Originally it was on Van Nuys Blvd. north of Ventura, then moved
to Woodman off Burbank (?). That old socialist from Brooklyn ground his own
beef, baked his own onion rolls and concocted his own chil - all in that crummy
little yellow shack with the hand-made sign. He never wrote down an order -
just scrambled these little colored tiles by the window that somehow helped him
keep track of everything.
Another special night out place for the family was The Hungry Tiger - a huge
seafood restaurant. They had one on Ventura Blvd., one in Hollywood and one in
Westwood (as I recall.)
Oh, and near the corner of Ventura and Laurel Canyon was an old, dingy
unrepentant Cantonese chinese restaurant called Bings. It seemed like my
family were the only ones who ever ate-in at the place. I loved their
chicken-in-a-bag appetizers.
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Clancy Muldoon's ice cream, wilshire and westgate, until about 1980.
J.
As for Mel's Landing... after Mel died, his children reopened up in
Valencia... our family continued to go there until it closed...
Thanks for the bringing back some wonderful memories of growing up
in the valley :)
Elise
All the best,
Mark
I was one of Royal Star's first customers when it opened and have been
going there steadily ever since -- once or twice a week on average. The
have periodic problems with help (as do most businesses these days), but
the manager won't put up with bad service and is very appreciative when
you let him know about it.
I never cared that much for Madame Wu's. It was OK, but I thought that
a lot of her dishes were too Americanized. For many years, my favorite
Westside Chinese restaurant was Chu's on 4th St between Santa Monica
Blvd and Arizona in Santa Monica. It was a little family-run restaurant
that served mostly Americanized Chinese food. I had learned to cook
Chinese food from a chef in Boston's Chinatown before I moved out here
in 1957, and the second time I went there I asked the waitress if they
could make some things I wanted that weren't on the menu. The
chef/owner came out to my table to meet me and to tell me that he would
be happy to make them. That food was fantastic! Every time afterwards,
before sitting down I stuck my head in the kitchen to say hello to the
chef and ask what seasonal vegetables he had that day so he would know
to cook my order the traditional Chinese way instead of the way he
cooked for his other customers. Unfortunately, he closed his restaurant
a number of years ago.
Hong Kong style falls within the general classification of Cantonese
style cooking. Within that, Royal Star specializes in seafood. They
also make the more popular dishes from other regions of China. Among my
favorite dishes are Cantonese Seafood Hotpot, Sweet & Sour Rock Cod
Fillet, Clams with Ginger & Green Onions, a prawn ball with walnut dish
whose name I can't remember, Rock Cod Fillet with Chili & Black Beans,
Shrimp with Lobster Sauce, Lettuce Bun with Shrimp & Chicken, Orange
Beef, Vegetarian Moo Shu, String Bean with XO Sauce, Bean Curd &
Mushroom in Brown Sauce, and Spicy Garlic Egg Plant. I'm sure many of
the other dishes are good, too, but I mostly order seafood dishes
because that's what they prepare best; I usually do not order the items
listed at market price because those tend to be quite pricey.
Royal Star serves Dim Sum seven days a week: from about 11:00-3:00 on
weekdays and 10:00-3:00 on weekends. Among my favorites are Shark's Fin
Dumpling, Shrimp & Seaweed Roll, Shrimp & Pork Shiu Mai, Steamed BBQ
Pork Bun, Pan Fried Chicken Bun, Baked BBQ Pork Bun, Baked Egg Custard,
Deep Fried Sesame Ball, Deep Fried Taro Dumpling, Pan Fried Turnip Cake,
Sticky Rice Wrapped in Lotus Leaf, Stewed Chicken Feet, and Braised Bean
Curd Roll.
Guess I just dated myself. :-)
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Van De Kamps <sp> on Wilshier "The Champ" double deck hamburger
Scribbners Drive-In on Wilshire and Crenshaw (SE corner)
Man Fok Lo - produce district DT LA. Park in the back and walk through the
kitchen
Scandia - for Sunday Brunch
DC
Well, there actually is a Matt and Tony's sub shop on Devonshire Blvd. in
Chatsworth. I've never been there, but will definitely try it now.
I don't remember the name, but the sub place is on the east side
Woodley just south of Saticoy.
> Ho Toys on Van Nuys is still there. I used to go around with a
friend of mine
> on deliveries. (free food).
Friends of mine used to work the takeout counter at Ho Toys. (free
food) My family ordered takeout from Ho Toys for over 30 years. Ho
Toys changed owners a few years ago. It is not the same. We no
longer patronize Ho Toys.
Yep, that's it! Pretty decent.
Mark
On 9 Jan 2001 01:30:01 GMT, Varda Ullman Novick <vuno...@panix.com>
wrote:
>>http://www.cris.com/~lkarper/dim_sum.html
This link of one of San Francisco's two best dim sum restaurants works:
Dave
In article <20010109114854...@ng-fn1.aol.com>, kar...@aol.com
(KARM40) wrote:
> Yes, Matt and Tony's!!! I actually found some place in Burbank that had a
> reasonable copy of the Matt & Tony's sub, but I don't recall where. I
think it
> was around the other Victory Blvd.???
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> The roll was but what I remember where
>the fantastic meatball sandwiches that were not in a tomato sauce but in
>pot with herbs,
Meatballs in pot? Sounds euphorically delicious! :>
"I'd rather drink a beer than win father of the year, I'm happy just the way
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> The Hot Dog Show, used to be at Ventura Bl. and Coldwater Canyon.
>
> Bit of Scotland on Westwood Bl. for incredible fried chicken.
>
> Any others you miss?
Olivia's, the soul food place that used to be at Ocean Park and Main
in Santa Monica.
. . . .
jimh
> Bit of Scotland on Westwood Bl. for incredible fried chicken.
> Any others you miss?
Does anyone remember La Mer in Malibu?
Menagerie in Culver City. Especially their specialty dessert, the Scrunch.
I haven't seen any prior mention of the Bratskeller in Westwood either
or Perino's come to think of it.
Susan Haseltine
su...@calweb.com
She was quite a character! Her menu gave one an education in Indian
geography and regional cuisine.
The Stew Kettle on Pico in West L.A. I miss the "Hobo Stew"
Janis
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Sure, right next to Italy's Little Kitchen.
J.
>Wow... I didn't think anyone else knew Joe Woo's... our family used to
>go to Joe Woo's every Sunday night for years.. our regular waitress was
>Ling...We used to play with the daughter's kids behind the register...
Hi,
I'm sitting here (in NYC, actually) thinking about how familiar
the name, Joe Woo's, is. But I can't picture it precisely. What were
the intersections, and was the interior done in bas relief?
Andy Katz
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And as for the dim sum, forget it. Dim sum is positively my favorite meal on
earth. I've eaten it all over the world including quite a bit in Hong Kong and
Guangzhou and I think Monterey Park is the hands down winner.
Everybody talks about Yank Sing but to me it's a bit too "nouvelle." I think
Harbor Village (in Embarcadero) has the best and most consistent dim sum in SF.
Dave
In article <20010120003240...@ng-co1.aol.com>,
jeff...@aol.com (Jeff90212) wrote:
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Patmars by LAX. The Golden Cock, Rosemead Blvd., Hans and Herman's The
Cove on 7th st. Moron's Delight ice cream palace on Crenshaw(?)El Amigo
on Western.
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SABU
Ports in West Hollywood... great old Hollywood ambience and the first time I
ever tasted caviar atop a baked potato.
The Feedbag on Wilshire in WLA... great cheap food for UCLA students.
A place whose name escapes me in Santa Monica Canyon just off PCH where you
could eat dinner and hear Gilbert and Sullivan songs.
La Mer, small and wonderfully romantic, on the beach at PCH and Topanga.
The Fireside Inn, great red leather watering hole on Ventura.
McGoo's on Hollywod Boulevard, for raucous college parties every night.
A steak retaurant just down the boulevard, high ceilings, brightly lit, cheap
tough good meat. Name?
Also on Hollywood, Aldo's, a bar and restaurant with little covered wagons at
each booth.
And a funny little place on Van Nuys Boulevard near Victory in the Fifties,
where they only served hamburgers which were delivered to you by a little
model train that ran around the U shaped loop of the counter and then back
into the kitchen. Anyone remember what it was called?
Chris
Can't remember the name...but know of someone who might.
Stay tuned.!
m
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Halloway. There was also an Old World on Beverly Drive near Wilshire
in B.H. But even though they had the same menu, the one on Sunset
was better somehow.
Every time these old restaurants threads reappear on la.eats, I have
the same feeling...it isn't so much the restaurants I miss as my
favorite dishes which disappeared with the restaurant when it closed.
For instance, one of my all time favorite salads was the wilted
spinach salad at The Ritz. When Delmonaco's took over that space,
they no longer served that salad. It was the perfect blend of
slightly blanched (but not warm) spinach leaves perfectly coated with
just the right amount of a uniquely tasty vinaigrette, along with a
generous number of *thick* pieces of crispy maple cured bacon and
just the right amount of crumbled egg yolk. I weep for that salad.
In the same Pico neighborhood there was once a restaurant called
Pina's (which changed names to Piccalo's without changing the menu).
They made a veal picatta which to this day defines the perfection
possible (but hardly ever achieved) of this dish. And their creamed
spinach was also unequalled in my experience anywhere else.
I won't bore you people again with my regret at the passing of the
Shipshape burger.
But at least Langer's pastrami is still around. I was on the
red-line from downtown to Hollywood this morning, and couldn't stop
myself from getting off at the Westlake station and scarfing down
what is still the best pastrami sandwich in the world (the subway
stopover is free).
--Ken Rudolph
Marilyn
Ken Rudolph wrote:
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>Bit of Scotland on Westwood Bl. for incredible fried chicken.
ME: I think it was Bit O' Scotland, to get technical. And they had
the best fish and chips I've ever hand anywhere.
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Though I can see the place in my mind. It was very small. I remember sitting
at the counter and watching that train go around.
Thank god for photographic memories.
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