Kwort 2.4.1 RC4 is out

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David B. Cortarello

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Mar 28, 2009, 2:08:09 PM3/28/09
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I just uploaded Kwort 2.4.1 rc4.
Get it from here:
ftp://europa.fapyd.unr.edu.ar/pub/kwort/2.4.1/kwort-2.4.1rc4.iso
Checksum file: ftp://europa.fapyd.unr.edu.ar/pub/kwort/2.4.1/kwort-2.4.1rc4.iso.md5

Test are welcome...
If everything goes fine with this release it will become final.

Bye!

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Kwort Linux: http://www.kwort.org

Sebastian Reisse

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Mar 28, 2009, 8:52:47 PM3/28/09
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Hi Dave,

did a quick test of RC4.


>> - lilo.conf issue
>
> Fixed

Confirmed!

>
>> - alsactl store|reload issue
>
> Fixed

Confirmed!


>
>> - gigolo issue
>
> Fixed


Confirmed!

>
>> - gphoto2 permission issue (I know that works now ;))
>
> Fixed


works, BUT: The owner and group of /etc/udev/rules.d/90-libgphoto2.rules
should be root:root (actually it is 1000:users...
Need to be adjusted that way:

chown root:root /etc/udev/rules.d/90-libgphoto2.rules


>
>> - java und flash browser plugin issue
>
> Fixed

Confirmed!

>
>> - audacious seqfault (AMD sse2) issue
>
> Fixed

Confirmed!


Other than that, on my machine xfburn *always* hangs when opening blank
disk, burn ISO or burn dialog

Also printing from mousepad is impossible because the default printer is
not showing up in xfprint dialog.

Firefox sometimes hangs (same behavior as xfburn) on exit selecting
saving setting, this happens only randomly

cdrecord is not set UID root, thus burning as normal user doesn't work

chmod 4755 /usr/bin/cdrecord

will fix it. ;)

Hostname and domain is applied now, but: The default nominus kwort.org
entry is NOT removed from /etc/hosts, should be fixed!
Same if you trying to set the hostname and domain *again* it just adds
the new entry, bud doesn't *remove* the old one, should be fixed!

Br,


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David B. Cortarello

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Mar 28, 2009, 9:15:42 PM3/28/09
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Hi Sebastian,

On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Sebastian Reisse
<sebastian...@gmx.net> wrote:
>>
>>> - gphoto2 permission issue (I know that works now ;))
>>
>> Fixed
>
>
> works, BUT: The owner and group of /etc/udev/rules.d/90-libgphoto2.rules
> should be root:root (actually it is 1000:users...
> Need to be adjusted that way:
>
> chown root:root /etc/udev/rules.d/90-libgphoto2.rules

Hahaha, yeah, I know, it is because I did it with my user and I forgot
to change it :-)
Btw, I've been using Linux for 13 years, I know how to change permissions ;-)

>
>>
>>> - java und flash browser plugin issue
>>
>> Fixed
>
> Confirmed!
>
>>
>>> - audacious seqfault (AMD sse2) issue
>>
>> Fixed
>
> Confirmed!
>
>
> Other than that, on my machine xfburn *always* hangs when opening blank
> disk, burn ISO or burn dialog

Well, mmmmm, ehhh, mmmmmmmmm. I will compile graveman and put it in
the mirror from the same day the final iso is released so people can
use it.

> Also printing from mousepad is impossible because the default printer is
> not showing up in xfprint dialog.

Have you started cups? Is the printer registered in cups?


> Firefox sometimes hangs (same behavior as xfburn) on exit selecting
> saving setting, this happens only randomly

I guess it is a bug in firefox (I hope chromium be out soon)

> cdrecord is not set UID root, thus burning as normal user doesn't work
>
> chmod 4755 /usr/bin/cdrecord
>
> will fix it. ;)

Yeap, forgot to change it the other day when you told me. (Same above
about changing permissions, I know).

> Hostname and domain is applied now, but: The default nominus kwort.org
> entry is NOT removed from /etc/hosts, should be fixed!

What? that domain doesn't exists by default in /etc/hosts

> Same if you trying to set the hostname and domain *again* it just adds
> the new entry, bud doesn't *remove* the old one, should be fixed!

I'm fixing it right now. Thanks.

>
> Br,
>
> --
> Sebastian Reisse
> E-Mail: sebastian...@gmx.net
> IM:     38670797 (ICQ), sebas...@jabber.org (Jabber/XMPP)
>
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>

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Sebastian Reisse

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Mar 29, 2009, 6:12:36 AM3/29/09
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Hi David,


>> works, BUT: The owner and group of /etc/udev/rules.d/90-libgphoto2.rules
>> should be root:root (actually it is 1000:users...
>> Need to be adjusted that way:
>>
>> chown root:root /etc/udev/rules.d/90-libgphoto2.rules

> Hahaha, yeah, I know, it is because I did it with my user and I forgot
> to change it :-)
> Btw, I've been using Linux for 13 years, I know how to change permissions ;-)

LOL, I am shure you know how to change permissions, I just put that line
to avaoid missunderstandings in my explaination, because the code should
be explain better what I was saying. ;)


>> Other than that, on my machine xfburn *always* hangs when opening blank
>> disk, burn ISO or burn dialog
>
> Well, mmmmm, ehhh, mmmmmmmmm. I will compile graveman and put it in
> the mirror from the same day the final iso is released so people can
> use it.

Graveman also doesn't work. :(

>
>> Also printing from mousepad is impossible because the default printer is
>> not showing up in xfprint dialog.
>
> Have you started cups? Is the printer registered in cups?
>

It's only happens randomly, so you can forget about it, maybe special on
my system.


>> Firefox sometimes hangs (same behavior as xfburn) on exit selecting
>> saving setting, this happens only randomly
>
> I guess it is a bug in firefox (I hope chromium be out soon)
>
>> cdrecord is not set UID root, thus burning as normal user doesn't work
>>
>> chmod 4755 /usr/bin/cdrecord
>>
>> will fix it. ;)

No big issue, I know.
Thanks.


>> Hostname and domain is applied now, but: The default nominus kwort.org
>> entry is NOT removed from /etc/hosts, should be fixed!
>
> What? that domain doesn't exists by default in /etc/hosts

The default entry exists, but it should be *removed* when changing the
hostname via network config tool because otherwise you will have two
entries for 127.0.0.1 in /etc/hosts

>
>> Same if you trying to set the hostname and domain *again* it just adds
>> the new entry, bud doesn't *remove* the old one, should be fixed!
>
> I'm fixing it right now. Thanks.
>

Thanks. Also I figured out that the order of hostname and full qualified
host/domainname is in wrong order it should be


127.0.0.1 hostname.domainame hostname

but your tools sets it

127.0.0.1 hostname hostname.domainame

That is causing the command

hostname -f to only display

hostname instead of hostname.domainname (you know hostname -f should
give out the full qualified name), which could lead to some problems,
e.g. for sendmail that can't get the FQDN from hosts in this case...
So please also change the order of how network config puts entries in
/etc/hosts to avaoid this kind of problem and to comply with standards. ;)

Other than that Kwort is ready to go final. ;)

Br,

P.S. How did you fixed the gigolo issue? I need to know to fix it on my
ZW system as well. ;)

Sebastian Reisse

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Mar 29, 2009, 6:25:32 AM3/29/09
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Hi David,

>> Firefox sometimes hangs (same behavior as xfburn) on exit selecting
>> saving setting, this happens only randomly
>
> I guess it is a bug in firefox (I hope chromium be out soon)

Please don't replace Firefox! It is still the most compatible and
fullfeatured Browser for Linux.
Also chromium from google has big security issues, is less compatible
with different websites, there are no plugins available and...
it will collect personal data to regualry report to google! using that
means you will make your internetusage and computing transparent to
google- that should be avoided.

Please, please *NEVER* remove or replace Firefox from the standard kwort
ISO!
Thanks!

David B. Cortarello

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Mar 29, 2009, 9:26:17 AM3/29/09
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Hi Sebastian

On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 7:12 AM, Sebastian Reisse
<sebastian...@gmx.net> wrote:
>
> Hi David,


>
>
>>> Other than that, on my machine xfburn *always* hangs when opening blank
>>> disk, burn ISO or burn dialog
>>
>> Well, mmmmm, ehhh, mmmmmmmmm. I will compile graveman and put it in
>> the mirror from the same day the final iso is released so people can
>> use it.
>
> Graveman also doesn't work. :(

I'm running out of answers here...

>>> cdrecord is not set UID root, thus burning as normal user doesn't work
>>>
>>> chmod 4755 /usr/bin/cdrecord
>>>
>>> will fix it. ;)
>
> No big issue, I know.
> Thanks.

Fixed.

>
>>> Hostname and domain is applied now, but: The default nominus kwort.org
>>> entry is NOT removed from /etc/hosts, should be fixed!
>>
>> What? that domain doesn't exists by default in /etc/hosts
>
> The default entry exists, but it should be *removed* when changing the
> hostname via network config tool because otherwise you will have two
> entries for 127.0.0.1 in /etc/hosts
>
>>
>>> Same if you trying to set the hostname and domain *again* it just adds
>>> the new entry, bud doesn't *remove* the old one, should be fixed!
>>
>> I'm fixing it right now. Thanks.
>>
> Thanks. Also I figured out that the order of hostname and full qualified
>  host/domainname is in wrong order it should be
>
>
> 127.0.0.1 hostname.domainame hostname
>
> but your tools sets it
>
> 127.0.0.1 hostname hostname.domainame

This was "one" of the issues... I have it already fixed.
Also, see that changing the hostname/domain of the system while logged
in X will make you to restart X (As it can't connect to the old system
name anymore).

>
> Br,
>
>
>
> P.S. How did you fixed the gigolo issue? I need to know to fix it on my
> ZW system as well. ;)

Check /etc/skel (I made a small config for gigolo to use unix volume
manager) and also see that /etc/fstab has the cdrom line as the floppy
one not commented.

>
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> E-Mail: sebastian...@gmx.net
> IM:     38670797 (ICQ), sebas...@jabber.org (Jabber/XMPP)
>
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>

Sebastian Reisse

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Mar 29, 2009, 2:53:47 PM3/29/09
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Hi David,

>>>> Other than that, on my machine xfburn *always* hangs when opening blank
>>>> disk, burn ISO or burn dialog
>>> Well, mmmmm, ehhh, mmmmmmmmm. I will compile graveman and put it in
>>> the mirror from the same day the final iso is released so people can
>>> use it.
>> Graveman also doesn't work. :(
>
> I'm running out of answers here...
>

I have one: Bashburn ;p

But don't worry graveman is not developed anymore, that's why it may
hardly work in newer environments.

And the xfburn issue seems to only happen on my system, so it shouldn't
be a show stopper for Kwort final. After releasing the ISO we could try
the newest snv version and provide this as an update and see if it fixes
things.

BTW: I tried to install subversion but it complains about missing
libapr2, do you know which dep package I am missing? I couldn't find
out in which package this lib is included it's definitly not installed
in the default kwort system...

>>>> Same if you trying to set the hostname and domain *again* it just adds
>>>> the new entry, bud doesn't *remove* the old one, should be fixed!
>>> I'm fixing it right now. Thanks.
>>>
>> Thanks. Also I figured out that the order of hostname and full qualified
>> host/domainname is in wrong order it should be
>>
>>
>> 127.0.0.1 hostname.domainame hostname
>>
>> but your tools sets it
>>
>> 127.0.0.1 hostname hostname.domainame
>
> This was "one" of the issues... I have it already fixed.
> Also, see that changing the hostname/domain of the system while logged
> in X will make you to restart X (As it can't connect to the old system
> name anymore).

You can send me the package/script and I will test it on my system as
well, I think for this issue it's not necessary to have another RC ISO. ;)


>> P.S. How did you fixed the gigolo issue? I need to know to fix it on my
>> ZW system as well. ;)
>
> Check /etc/skel (I made a small config for gigolo to use unix volume
> manager) and also see that /etc/fstab has the cdrom line as the floppy
> one not commented.

Ah, but this way mount points will not be handled by HAL, right?
Anyway it works, good.


Just please send me the fixed network config tool and if the hostname
setup passes on my system as well you have my go to release 2.4.1 final. ;)


Br,

Sebastian Reisse

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Mar 29, 2009, 3:25:17 PM3/29/09
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Hi David,

>>>>> Other than that, on my machine xfburn *always* hangs when opening blank
>>>>> disk, burn ISO or burn dialog
>>>> Well, mmmmm, ehhh, mmmmmmmmm. I will compile graveman and put it in
>>>> the mirror from the same day the final iso is released so people can
>>>> use it.

the xfburn issue is not a bug of kwort, as I confirmed the same problem
happens on the same system for xfburn from Arch linux. So it's xfburn or
xfce4.6 related...
Since this seems to be not happen on your system, I don't think this
will be a show stopper, you can ship out Kwort 2.4.1 final with xfburn
since this app is the best choice for now...

David B. Cortarello

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Mar 29, 2009, 4:45:29 PM3/29/09
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Hi Sebastian

> BTW: I tried to install subversion but it complains about missing
> libapr2, do you know which dep package I am missing? I  couldn't find
> out in which package this lib is included it's definitly not installed
> in the default kwort system...
>

Yeap, I know, I'm fixing it right now.

> You can send me the package/script and I will test it on my system as
> well, I think for this issue it's not necessary to have another RC ISO. ;)

I'll be mailing it to you after this email.

>
>>> P.S. How did you fixed the gigolo issue? I need to know to fix it on my
>>> ZW system as well. ;)
>>
>> Check /etc/skel (I made a small config for gigolo to use unix volume
>> manager) and also see that /etc/fstab has the cdrom line as the floppy
>> one not commented.
>
> Ah, but this way mount points will not be handled by HAL, right?
> Anyway it works, good.

I fixed it with a more sanity solution...
I spoke to the gigolo author and he told me he wrapped the exo-mount
into a gnome-mount script this week after I asked him for a solution
(cool guy :-D).
This way is "the fix" and it is a lot better.

>
> Br,
>
> --
> Sebastian Reisse
> E-Mail: sebastian...@gmx.net
> IM:     38670797 (ICQ), sebas...@jabber.org (Jabber/XMPP)
>
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