What apps to add/remove?
Risto H. Kurppa
What apps would you like to be added/removed from Kustomizer, keeping
in eye that:
- one can easily add apps, if he knows where to get them
* beginners from opkg.org
* advanced users from anywhere, even with customscript that's run in the end
- Kustomizer is partly about showing the capabilities of FR
- Kustomizer can also show some highlights of the apps
If you suggest something please also tell me WHY this should be added/removed.
My suggestion:
- add a cardgame, either http://www.opkg.org/package_157.html
(PyHeart) or http://www.opkg.org/package_156.html (PySoIFC)
PyHearts is only one game, the other zillion games. I'd maybe go for PyHeart.
- get rid of gpsdcontrol (-> one less global icon required and the
'Services' tool replaces this - but it's slow)
(mostly just frustrated with broken installations :/
(btw. I just changed centerim, openttd and numpty from opkg.org to
point to projects.openmoko.org packages.. I'd think now they actually
get installed.. cool apps!)
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Ken Young
Hi there!
What apps would you like to be added/removed from Kustomizer, keeping
in eye that:
- one can easily add apps, if he knows where to get them
* beginners from opkg.org
* advanced users from anywhere, even with customscript that's run in the end
- Kustomizer is partly about showing the capabilities of FR
- Kustomizer can also show some highlights of the apps
This isn't quite on-topic, but I have never been a fan of the abstract art icons
"Messages". Maybe if the Freerunner software were polished and bulletproof,
having icons that are unrelated to the functionality might be kinda cool, but
given the true current state of the software, I think having confusing icons just
makes the Freerunner seem even less polished. Do others agree? If so, should the
kustomizer script load new icons that actually fit the applications? Also, the
delightful Mokomaze doesn't even have an icon.
Ken
Risto H. Kurppa
> This isn't quite on-topic, but I have never been a fan of the abstract art
> icons
> that the 2008.x distribution uses for such basic applications as "Dialer"
> and
> "Messages". Maybe if the Freerunner software were polished and
> bulletproof,
> having icons that are unrelated to the functionality might be kinda cool,
> but
> given the true current state of the software, I think having confusing icons
> just
> makes the Freerunner seem even less polished. Do others agree? If so,
> should the
> kustomizer script load new icons that actually fit the applications? Also,
> the
> delightful Mokomaze doesn't even have an icon.
Mr. Orrery - great to see you here :)
I wouldn't have anything against better icons. The sortdesk icons are
already changed from the defaults, someone provided the files and now
we download a package from
http://kurppa.fi/freerunner/config_files/sortdesk_icons.tar.gz
So if someone sends me the line to replace the default icons I'm happy
to add it!
Ken Young
Mr. Orrery - great to see you here :)
Thanks!
Has anyone packed gnuchess and xboard for use on
the Freerunner? I don't think there's much point
in loading gnuchess if there's no GUI, but with
a GUI, I'd love it. It would clean the clock of the
Android chess program, which plays terribly.
If xboard hasn't been ported, I could try to do
it - how hard could it be?
Ken
yebo gogo
Omnewrotate would be nice if the default would be not to rotate. Now when I get the freerunner out of my pocket the screen gets messed up for some time and when I have to answer a phone call it will have been cancelled before I get the time to answer... When switched off it will be on again coming out of a suspend or a reboot..
I will be very happy if Numptyphysics will install, it's the only game I like to play.
Personally, I like OmShuffle, but then people have to manually edit the .conf file in order for the programme to be able to find their music. Not too end-user friendly, probably a no for now.
Risto H. Kurppa
> One programme I do have an issue with is ffalarms. When using it the battery
> will be drained before wake-up time, even when the phone is suspended,
> rendering the whole programme totally useless. Better remove it, though it
> is a nice finger friendly app. It is still possible to use the alarm that
> comes with the clock from the original settings menu. I'll drop a line with
> the ffalarms developers too.
Hmm.. When I trhied, I wasn't able to make ffalarm to alarm at all but
I left it there as it's a nice finger-friendly app.. Can be concidered
to remove, what do you others think?
> Omnewrotate would be nice if the default would be not to rotate. Now when I
> get the freerunner out of my pocket the screen gets messed up for some time
> and when I have to answer a phone call it will have been cancelled before I
> get the time to answer... When switched off it will be on again coming out
> of a suspend or a reboot..
You mean the auto-rotation based on the accelerometer input? Could
someone have a look how does it actually work, what needs to be
changed so that it wouldn't automatically start (when starting the
phone?).. It's interesting if returning from suspend turns it on
again, too..
> I will be very happy if Numptyphysics will install, it's the only game I
> like to play.
Yep, I changed it to install from projects.openmoko.org so I'd think
it should now install with no problems. It's a cool game :)
> Personally, I like OmShuffle, but then people have to manually edit the
> .conf file in order for the programme to be able to find their music. Not
> too end-user friendly, probably a no for now.
Interesting, I never heard about it before. Yep, having to edit the
playlist manually is not that cool though 'wlan' installed now
requires the same for secured networks but for open I guess it works
ok..
Media player is an issue, we're using Pythm hacked version. The
seeking doesn't work too well and it takes the player some minutes to
go to the next track after the previous finishes so I'm open to new
suggestions. Should try the latest pythm if it works better using
gstreamer.
Ken Young
Hmm.. When I trhied, I wasn't able to make ffalarm to alarm at all but
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 2:43 PM, yebo gogo <ayo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> One programme I do have an issue with is ffalarms. When using it the battery
> will be drained before wake-up time, even when the phone is suspended,
> rendering the whole programme totally useless. Better remove it, though it
> is a nice finger friendly app. It is still possible to use the alarm that
> comes with the clock from the original settings menu. I'll drop a line with
> the ffalarms developers too.
I left it there as it's a nice finger-friendly app.. Can be concidered
to remove, what do you others think?
I use ffalarm as my main alarm clock, and it has worked well for me. I have not
seen a battery drain associated with this app when the phone is suspended.
The only problem I have seen is that it does not handle "Daylight Savings Time"
correctly. Now that the US is on DST, I have to set the ffalarm one hour earlier
than the time I actually want, even though the phone itself has handled the
time change correctly, and displays the proper time.
Ken
yebo gogo
Just scp or wget them to /usr/share/pixmaps/sortdesk on the freerunner, make sure you go there as well, rm -f A* [G-Z]* and unpack with tar xvzf sortdesk_new_icons.tar.gz. I need to reboot before the icons work properly.
Regards,
Ayobayo
Margo
> Omnewrotate would be nice if the default would be not to rotate. Now when I
> get the freerunner out of my pocket the screen gets messed up for some time
> and when I have to answer a phone call it will have been cancelled before I
> get the time to answer... When switched off it will be on again coming out
> of a suspend or a reboot..
>
It starts again after resuming from suspend, because there is a file
89omnewrotate-resume in /etc/apm/resume.d directory. If you delete
this file or comment out the line "exec /usr/bin/omnewrotate $OPTIONS
&" in this line then it won't start after resuming. And there's also
file /etc/apm/suspend.d/11omnewrotate-suspend that kills omnewrotate
when going to suspend.
Margo
Jozef Mlich
there is no easy way to temporary disable it).
I would like to see in kusomizer something like this:
http://www.stud.fit.vutbr.cz/~xmlich02/openmoko/selectTimezone.sh
(even better would be time zone selection according to gms/gps
information, maybe it could be offered by fso)
BTW i have updated the tangogps package at opkg.org:
- i have posted it in there, so it is possible to just update it from
opkg.org repository
- the problem with crashing of application while editing repo is not
cleanly solved but, everything seems to be working and it is not my
code, so i am not very opened to explore and debug it.
- i have updated also the information about source codes (posted link on
my SVN repository) and added link to launchpad bug tracking system. I am
not going to develop new features for tangogps, but i can offer myself
for debugging..
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Jozef Mlich <xmli...@stud.fit.vutbr.cz>
Risto H. Kurppa
So any suggestions what to actually change in the code? Just remove
omnewrotate and replace it (with what?) or try to fix it? Maybe just
removing the resume.d file?
About http://www.stud.fit.vutbr.cz/~xmlich02/openmoko/selectTimezone.sh
- should I copy the code in Kustomizer (what's the licence..?) or
download & run it? It looks useful to me.
Jozef Mlich
> Hmm.. interesting - I thought the omnewrotate icon disables it?
> So any suggestions what to actually change in the code? Just remove
> omnewrotate and replace it (with what?) or try to fix it? Maybe just
> removing the resume.d file?
I am not sure how works turning on and turning off of omnewrotate. But
The think is, that i want it turned off as a default. And the easiest
way how to do this is to remove it at all.
> About http://www.stud.fit.vutbr.cz/~xmlich02/openmoko/selectTimezone.sh
> - should I copy the code in Kustomizer (what's the licence..?) or
> download & run it? It looks useful to me.
bsd
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Jozef Mlich <xmli...@stud.fit.vutbr.cz>
Risto H. Kurppa
again installed, it lets you manually rotate the screen to horizontal
mode.
I think this is already enough for a 4.x release - but let me know if
there's anything else you'd like to add/remove.
I myself am not that interested in the whole Openmoko business,
depressed with the bad news coming from Openmoko about people leaving
and no distro works smooth so please, contribute code, not just ideas.
Marius Næss Olsen
Risto H. Kurppa
Added it now. I think the 'volume' or 'pymixer' or whatever's
installed can do the same but not automatically.
I try to install it from opkg.org so will have to test if it works.
I also added a new promising wifi tool:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/KnjMokoWifi and the corresponding
repository to install the framework it requires.