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Once you set everything correctly you can just mix with full channel faders open (be sure to test levels with two track playing and the cross-fader in the middle too. Keep an eye on the channel faders and use channel gain to correct (slowly) if some tracks still are too loud. This should only be minimal changes btw.
There are quite a few different recording programs available now, and they're all really pretty amazing. It would be hard to say that one is drastically better, or even different, from another. I think it comes down to personal preference and learning the details of each package enough to decide which one works best for you. I haven't used Cubase, or any other software, enough to write an exhaustive review of it, so that's not the point of this short review. The point is that with version 5 of VST 32, Steinberg has addressed several areas that have a direct sonic impact on the music you record that haven't been widely addressed until now. While most new software development seems aimed at new capabilities, VST 32 V. 5 has introduced three new sonic features: 32 bit sound files, True-Tape recording and an implementation of Apogee's UV-22 dithering algorithm. 32 bit sound files allow for much greater dynamic range than 24 bit files. Just about every sound card that I've seen only supports 24 bit files, and just about all software supports at least 32 bit floating point calculations. The point here is that as the files are manipulated in 32 bit floating point, the files are then kept at the longer word length, rather than being truncated down to 24 bits. The True-Tape algorithm on the other hand, creates 32 bit files from the get go. This algorithm was written to simulate the compression and saturation effects of analog tape. There is a control panel where you can set the amount of "drive" from 1 to 24 dBs of saturation. Lastly, Steinberg has licensed Apogee's UV-22 dithering algorithm and it is included in VST 32. When you mix a song down from 24 bits to 16, or convert 24 bit files to 16 bit for CD mastering, you are just discarding the extra 8 bits. UV22 applies an advanced dithering algorithm that most mastering engineers claim sounds better than anything else on the market. Previously only found on more high-end and expensive hardware and software, it's cool that Steinberg has included it as a standard option. (Check www.apogeedigital.com for more info on UV22 and dithering) So how does it sound? I recently did a project for a band called The Revolution Smile. (www. therevolutionsmile.com.) The band's singer/songwriter is Shaun Lopez who was a founding member of Far. We tracked several songs on to 2" 16-track tape and completely finished and mixed one song in the analog domain for a Quicksand tribute comp. The other songs we transferred into Cubase in 32 bit mode. Shaun then finished up all the overdubs in True Tape mode, using 6- 12 dBs of "drive"-more on guitars, less on vocals- and mixed them down to 24 bit files. He felt the True Tape sound was a huge improvement over earlier versions of Cubase and that it warmed up all the overdubs quite a bit. We then used the UV-22 to dither them down to 16 bit files. Although we could hear a very small difference between the songs recorded in Cubase next to the one song done entirely analog, the difference was very minimal and subtle. Bottom line is that the analog tracks still sounded full and the overdubs sat well with them. Considering how much money was saved by tracking into Cubase instead of doing all the overdubs at a studio, the difference was more than made up for in the extra time spent on the overdubs. As far as the UV22 goes, we listened to files that were just truncated to 16 bits next to the UV22 dithered files and there was definitely an audible difference but to my ears it was subtle and I'm not sure we really had the best possible testing conditions. It seemed as if the top end in the UV22 files was more realistic and transparent. Vocals, for instance, sounded more breathy and sibilant, but hey all those big mastering engineers can't be wrong, right? Check the band's website in a few months and you can hear the results for yourself. So, while Cubase has always been a favorite of musicians, these new sonic features make it a serious consideration for picky recording engineers as well. (www.steinberg.net)
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hmmm yeh i have heard that protools can be quite tricky to use in one way or another. I have also realised that cubase 5 can run on PC & MAC, so i might use that, but its not very good when it comes to writing directly to picture. Some people do their MIDI editing, etc in 1 DAW like logic pro or cubase and then they do all the mixing in protools...I might be getting the m-audio project MiX I/O composers like klaus Badelt & Mark Isham are using it for making their mixing...i dont really need a giant mixing desk...
i like my cubase 5..but im forced to use a mac because my university uses them. I know cubase 5 is cross-platform but i think my institute uses logic pro and protools HD . I need a soundcard/interface that has no latency or that has latency thats so low that it will be seemless. DG why do you have 48GB of ram....what do you use that eats it all up? you must write a lot of dense music. I am interested with your RME interface..i concidered getting one of those
As for Nuendo...how much different is it compared to cubase? Is one better for music and the other is better for sound design? Interesting that you say PC is better than mac....isnt it true that mac uses les system resources and its harder to get viruses compared to windows vista/7? every composer who has given interviews on youtube always say and show off about their mac setups...
Hi Guys. After a few months of silence i have returned. Im now at university in south london. They all use MACS and i got given a top spec macbook pro for free its a core i7 with 8GB of RAM and a universal audio UAD2 solo laptop sound card. I also got logic studio with logic pro 9 and Komplete 7. I was surprised to see the bundled extras that come with logic studio like all the sound FX, etc. Anyway, i have been gradually getting into logic and getting used to MAC OSX for the first time. i like it, but i miss my cubase 5 on my windows PC back at home. I dont know if its just me, but it seems as though logic pro 9 is not a 64-bit DAW.....if thats true then thats total rubbish! btw i was wondering if solid-state drives make a massive difference when composing with high quality sound libraries like VSL? and also is it good to invest in a 2nd computer to have a master and slave machine...i dont quite understand how that all works but ive seen posts on this forum about it...
you might find that after school, you will just ditch the Mac, go back and get the most uber powerful PC that ever hit the planet, get the newest version of cubase, and be able to host the whole VSL cube in the machine, and do crazy big arrangements with only that one machine.
Hi Guys. I am a student film composer and I would like some help/avise pleaseI currently use a intel core 2 quad PC with 4 GB RAM and i use an M-Audio fast track ultra 8R as my audio interface and to connect my yamaha p70 digital piano as my midi input controller and my KRK monitor speakers. I run Cubase 5 and I use VSL special edition amongst other libraries by EWQL, etc. I am about to switch to a MAC. I would like to know what is the best configuration for film composing/scoring. This includes hardware and software. If theres anyone on this forum who composes and scores to film and other types of media then it would be useful if you could post your specifications and any recomendations you may have. I have noticed that logic pro is used in a few vSL video tutorials and i have also found that composers such as Klaus Badelt use logic pro for their scoring and demo mixing, where as other composers like james horner and mark isham use Pro Tools ...I have never really understood the differences between all the DAW's out there...they all seem to do the same thing, but is one DAW better at doing a certain job than another? I am also thinking about upgrading to the super package. I am aware that this takes up over 700GB of HDD space, but how much RAM and processing power will be required to playback a big piece of film music thats in sync with the picture inside a DAW that uses the super package without any latency, distortion or any form of \"jerkyness\"..? Any help is welcome and useful contributions will be much appreciated!ThanksTim","pid":168752,"tid":25366,"timestamp":1274226173403,"uid":25015,"deleted":0,"upvotes":0,"downvotes":0,"deleterUid":0,"edited":0,"replies":"hasMore":false,"hasSingleImmediateReply":false,"users":[],"text":"[[topic:one-reply-to-this-post]]","count":0,"bookmarks":0,"votes":0,"timestampISO":"2010-05-18T23:42:53.403Z","editedISO":"","index":0,"user":"uid":25015,"username":"The_Timinator","userslug":"the_timinator","reputation":0,"postcount":29,"topiccount":9,"picture":null,"signature":"","banned":false,"banned:expire":0,"status":"offline","lastonline":1705664397680,"groupTitle":null,"mutedUntil":0,"displayname":"The_Timinator","groupTitleArray":[],"icon:text":"T","icon:bgColor":"#6D9071","lastonlineISO":"2024-01-19T11:39:57.680Z","banned_until":0,"banned_until_readable":"Not Banned","muted":false,"selectedGroups":[],"custom_profile_info":[],"editor":null,"bookmarked":false,"upvoted":false,"downvoted":false,"selfPost":false,"events":[],"topicOwnerPost":true,"display_edit_tools":false,"display_delete_tools":false,"display_moderator_tools":false,"display_move_tools":false,"display_post_menu":0},"content":"What kind of budget are we talking about here? When you say \"Upgrading to the super package,\" what do you mean exactly. Do mean the VSL Cube? ","pid":168785,"tid":25366,"timestamp":1274298626543,"uid":33949,"deleted":0,"upvotes":0,"downvotes":0,"deleterUid":0,"edited":0,"replies":"hasMore":false,"hasSingleImmediateReply":false,"users":[],"text":"[[topic:one-reply-to-this-post]]","count":0,"bookmarks":0,"votes":0,"timestampISO":"2010-05-19T19:50:26.543Z","editedISO":"","index":1,"user":"uid":33949,"username":"jasensmith","userslug":"jasensmith","reputation":0,"postcount":1572,"topiccount":52,"picture":null,"signature":"","banned":false,"banned:expire":0,"status":"offline","lastonline":1705664742104,"groupTitle":null,"mutedUntil":0,"displayname":"jasensmith","groupTitleArray":[],"icon:text":"J","icon:bgColor":"#87CEFA","lastonlineISO":"2024-01-19T11:45:42.104Z","banned_until":0,"banned_until_readable":"Not Banned","muted":false,"selectedGroups":[],"custom_profile_info":[],"editor":null,"bookmarked":false,"upvoted":false,"downvoted":false,"selfPost":false,"events":[],"topicOwnerPost":false,"display_edit_tools":false,"display_delete_tools":false,"display_moderator_tools":false,"display_move_tools":false,"display_post_menu":0,"content":" @Tim Barnes said: I have noticed that logic pro is used in a few vSL video tutorials and i have also found that composers such as Klaus Badelt use logic pro for their scoring and demo mixing, where as other composers like james horner and mark isham use Pro Tools ...I have never really understood the differences between all the DAW's out there...they all seem to do the same thing, but is one DAW better at doing a certain job than another? Re: DAWS Well, I've heard that Pro Tools has been arrogantly MIDI-unfriendly until their most recent version and even then they are still behind the ball. Let's face it, unless you have an entire live orchestra at your disposal, MIDI is the film composer's bread and butter. I like to keep my learning curve as straight as possible; I'm a PC man so I stick with PC based DAW's like Sonar. If you are a Mac user I would look into DAW's in that platform. Just my opinion.","pid":168798,"tid":25366,"timestamp":1274318100770,"uid":33949,"edited":1697395261295,"editor":"uid":33949,"username":"jasensmith","userslug":"jasensmith","displayname":"jasensmith","deleted":0,"upvotes":0,"downvotes":0,"deleterUid":0,"replies":"hasMore":false,"hasSingleImmediateReply":false,"users":[],"text":"[[topic:one-reply-to-this-post]]","count":0,"bookmarks":0,"votes":0,"timestampISO":"2010-05-20T01:15:00.770Z","editedISO":"2023-10-15T18:41:01.295Z","index":2,"user":"uid":33949,"username":"jasensmith","userslug":"jasensmith","reputation":0,"postcount":1572,"topiccount":52,"picture":null,"signature":"","banned":false,"banned:expire":0,"status":"offline","lastonline":1705664742104,"groupTitle":null,"mutedUntil":0,"displayname":"jasensmith","groupTitleArray":[],"icon:text":"J","icon:bgColor":"#87CEFA","lastonlineISO":"2024-01-19T11:45:42.104Z","banned_until":0,"banned_until_readable":"Not Banned","muted":false,"selectedGroups":[],"custom_profile_info":[],"bookmarked":false,"upvoted":false,"downvoted":false,"selfPost":false,"events":[],"topicOwnerPost":false,"display_edit_tools":false,"display_delete_tools":false,"display_moderator_tools":false,"display_move_tools":false,"display_post_menu":0,"content":" hmmm yeh i have heard that protools can be quite tricky to use in one way or another. I have also realised that cubase 5 can run on PC & MAC, so i might use that, but its not very good when it comes to writing directly to picture. Some people do their MIDI editing, etc in 1 DAW like logic pro or cubase and then they do all the mixing in protools...I might be getting the m-audio project MiX I/O composers like klaus Badelt & Mark Isham are using it for making their mixing...i dont really need a giant mixing desk...","pid":168814,"tid":25366,"timestamp":1274349072293,"uid":25015,"deleted":0,"upvotes":0,"downvotes":0,"deleterUid":0,"edited":0,"replies":"hasMore":false,"hasSingleImmediateReply":false,"users":[],"text":"[[topic:one-reply-to-this-post]]","count":0,"bookmarks":0,"votes":0,"timestampISO":"2010-05-20T09:51:12.293Z","editedISO":"","index":3,"user":"uid":25015,"username":"The_Timinator","userslug":"the_timinator","reputation":0,"postcount":29,"topiccount":9,"picture":null,"signature":"","banned":false,"banned:expire":0,"status":"offline","lastonline":1705664397680,"groupTitle":null,"mutedUntil":0,"displayname":"The_Timinator","groupTitleArray":[],"icon:text":"T","icon:bgColor":"#6D9071","lastonlineISO":"2024-01-19T11:39:57.680Z","banned_until":0,"banned_until_readable":"Not Banned","muted":false,"selectedGroups":[],"custom_profile_info":[],"editor":null,"bookmarked":false,"upvoted":false,"downvoted":false,"selfPost":false,"events":[],"topicOwnerPost":true,"display_edit_tools":false,"display_delete_tools":false,"display_moderator_tools":false,"display_move_tools":false,"display_post_menu":0,"content":" @Tim Barnes said: hmmm yeh i have heard that protools can be quite tricky to use in one way or another. I have also realised that cubase 5 can run on PC & MAC, so i might use that, but its not very good when it comes to writing directly to picture. Some people do their MIDI editing, etc in 1 DAW like logic pro or cubase and then they do all the mixing in protools...I might be getting the m-audio project MiX I/O composers like klaus Badelt & Mark Isham are using it for making their mixing...i dont really need a giant mixing desk... Cubase is extremely good for writing to picture. Who told you otherwise, and what were their concerns? It has more advanced features in that area than either ProTools or Logic.I also think that it's a good choice, because it's cross-platform. Obviously you have your reasons for wanting to use MAC, but currently performance is far better on a PC and even with a Mac it is better using Windows than OSX, both for Cubase and also VSL (and many other products).IMO the best thing to do is see what you need to be able to do, what sort of latency is possible for you to work with, and then decide your choice of hardware. If your needs are not as demanding as mine (for example) then a Mac might be good enough for you.DG","pid":168820,"tid":25366,"timestamp":1274363030180,"uid":6355,"edited":1697395264031,"editor":"uid":6355,"username":"DG","userslug":"dg","displayname":"DG","deleted":0,"upvotes":0,"downvotes":0,"deleterUid":0,"replies":"hasMore":false,"hasSingleImmediateReply":false,"users":[],"text":"[[topic:one-reply-to-this-post]]","count":0,"bookmarks":0,"votes":0,"timestampISO":"2010-05-20T13:43:50.180Z","editedISO":"2023-10-15T18:41:04.031Z","index":4,"user":"uid":6355,"username":"DG","userslug":"dg","reputation":0,"postcount":7921,"topiccount":87,"picture":null,"signature":"","banned":false,"banned:expire":0,"status":"offline","lastonline":1707909319333,"groupTitle":"[\"Unmoderated\"]","mutedUntil":0,"displayname":"DG","groupTitleArray":["Unmoderated"],"icon:text":"D","icon:bgColor":"#2C4C60","lastonlineISO":"2024-02-14T11:15:19.333Z","banned_until":0,"banned_until_readable":"Not Banned","muted":false,"selectedGroups":[],"custom_profile_info":[],"bookmarked":false,"upvoted":false,"downvoted":false,"selfPost":false,"events":[],"topicOwnerPost":false,"display_edit_tools":false,"display_delete_tools":false,"display_moderator_tools":false,"display_move_tools":false,"display_post_menu":0,"content":"Nuendo or Cubase used like a tape machine and video player/timeline on an i7 PC with absolutely NO connection to the internet from the minute it is powered up for OS installation - with a rock solid ASIO sound card like a LYNX or SSL...Macbook or Mac Pro as a slave VST instrument machine connected via LAN on VSL pro with TONS of RAM.That's all you need!!Good luck!!Asif Illyaswww.theshire.ca","pid":168826,"tid":25366,"timestamp":1274370238720,"uid":23758,"deleted":0,"upvotes":0,"downvotes":0,"deleterUid":0,"edited":0,"replies":"hasMore":false,"hasSingleImmediateReply":false,"users":[],"text":"[[topic:one-reply-to-this-post]]","count":0,"bookmarks":0,"votes":0,"timestampISO":"2010-05-20T15:43:58.720Z","editedISO":"","index":5,"user":"uid":23758,"username":"the_shire","userslug":"the_shire","reputation":0,"postcount":3,"topiccount":2,"picture":null,"signature":"","banned":false,"banned:expire":0,"status":"offline","lastonline":1696275032183,"groupTitle":null,"mutedUntil":0,"displayname":"the_shire","groupTitleArray":[],"icon:text":"T","icon:bgColor":"#6D9071","lastonlineISO":"2023-10-02T19:30:32.183Z","banned_until":0,"banned_until_readable":"Not Banned","muted":false,"selectedGroups":[],"custom_profile_info":[],"editor":null,"bookmarked":false,"upvoted":false,"downvoted":false,"selfPost":false,"events":[],"topicOwnerPost":false,"display_edit_tools":false,"display_delete_tools":false,"display_moderator_tools":false,"display_move_tools":false,"display_post_menu":0,"content":"i like my cubase 5..but im forced to use a mac because my university uses them. I know cubase 5 is cross-platform but i think my institute uses logic pro and protools HD . I need a soundcard/interface that has no latency or that has latency thats so low that it will be seemless. DG why do you have 48GB of ram....what do you use that eats it all up? you must write a lot of dense music. I am interested with your RME interface..i concidered getting one of those As for Nuendo...how much different is it compared to cubase? Is one better for music and the other is better for sound design? Interesting that you say PC is better than mac....isnt it true that mac uses les system resources and its harder to get viruses compared to windows vista/7? every composer who has given interviews on youtube always say and show off about their mac setups...","pid":168857,"tid":25366,"timestamp":1274437265340,"uid":25015,"deleted":0,"upvotes":0,"downvotes":0,"deleterUid":0,"edited":0,"replies":"hasMore":false,"hasSingleImmediateReply":false,"users":[],"text":"[[topic:one-reply-to-this-post]]","count":0,"bookmarks":0,"votes":0,"timestampISO":"2010-05-21T10:21:05.340Z","editedISO":"","index":6,"user":"uid":25015,"username":"The_Timinator","userslug":"the_timinator","reputation":0,"postcount":29,"topiccount":9,"picture":null,"signature":"","banned":false,"banned:expire":0,"status":"offline","lastonline":1705664397680,"groupTitle":null,"mutedUntil":0,"displayname":"The_Timinator","groupTitleArray":[],"icon:text":"T","icon:bgColor":"#6D9071","lastonlineISO":"2024-01-19T11:39:57.680Z","banned_until":0,"banned_until_readable":"Not Banned","muted":false,"selectedGroups":[],"custom_profile_info":[],"editor":null,"bookmarked":false,"upvoted":false,"downvoted":false,"selfPost":false,"events":[],"topicOwnerPost":true,"display_edit_tools":false,"display_delete_tools":false,"display_moderator_tools":false,"display_move_tools":false,"display_post_menu":0,"content":" So many questions. [:D] @Another User said: Interesting that you say PC is better than mac....isnt it true that mac uses les system resources and its harder to get viruses compared to windows vista/7? every composer who has given interviews on youtube always say and show off about their mac setups... No, you misunderstand me. PC is not better than Mac. PC is better for some audio related things than Mac. If you don't need these things, then there is nothing wrong with using a Mac. If you work like I do, this can't be done on any Mac. FWIW I remember an interview with Hans Zimmer, where he sated that when he changed from Mac to PC he didn't notice any difference in his workflow, except that it was faster.Regarding viruses, the only people who get them are idiots and it's true that in this sense a Mac can be more idiot proof. [;)]DG","pid":168866,"tid":25366,"timestamp":1274440558743,"uid":6355,"edited":1697395269163,"editor":"uid":6355,"username":"DG","userslug":"dg","displayname":"DG","deleted":0,"upvotes":0,"downvotes":0,"deleterUid":0,"replies":"hasMore":false,"hasSingleImmediateReply":false,"users":[],"text":"[[topic:one-reply-to-this-post]]","count":0,"bookmarks":0,"votes":0,"timestampISO":"2010-05-21T11:15:58.743Z","editedISO":"2023-10-15T18:41:09.163Z","index":7,"user":"uid":6355,"username":"DG","userslug":"dg","reputation":0,"postcount":7921,"topiccount":87,"picture":null,"signature":"","banned":false,"banned:expire":0,"status":"offline","lastonline":1707909319333,"groupTitle":"[\"Unmoderated\"]","mutedUntil":0,"displayname":"DG","groupTitleArray":["Unmoderated"],"icon:text":"D","icon:bgColor":"#2C4C60","lastonlineISO":"2024-02-14T11:15:19.333Z","banned_until":0,"banned_until_readable":"Not Banned","muted":false,"selectedGroups":[],"custom_profile_info":[],"bookmarked":false,"upvoted":false,"downvoted":false,"selfPost":false,"events":[],"topicOwnerPost":false,"display_edit_tools":false,"display_delete_tools":false,"display_moderator_tools":false,"display_move_tools":false,"display_post_menu":0,"content":" @Tim Barnes said: I have also realised that cubase 5 can run on PC & MAC, so i might use that, but its not very good when it comes to writing directly to picture. Cubase is extremely good for writing to picture. Who told you otherwise, and what were their concerns? It has more advanced features in that area than either ProTools or Logic.I also think that it's a good choice, because it's cross-platform. Obviously you have your reasons for wanting to use MAC, but currently performance is far better on a PC and even with a Mac it is better using Windows than OSX, both for Cubase and also VSL (and many other products).IMO the best thing to do is see what you need to be able to do, what sort of latency is possible for you to work with, and then decide your choice of hardware. If your needs are not as demanding as mine (for example) then a Mac might be good enough for you.DGCubase is good for a linear and direct workflow for midi. I prefer the way the key editor aka piano roll is set up to Logic's. As far as latency, Cubase under OSX is horrific. I've been working with Cubase 5/OSX for about 15 mos; which outside of VE Pro, is really not viable for large amounts of virtual instruments. My uses tend to be modest compared with a symphonic composer, too. VE Pro has a latency compensation which makes up for some of it, it's swell, but Cubase is slow. Cubase uses ASIO, OSX does_not. Core Audio runs under what I'll characterize as a wrapper, cellaed CoreAudio2ASIO.bundle. It requires more cycles, upon more cycles for every task, and it adds up. Logic is known for low latencies. I've seen benchmarks I actually trust which indicate you need ca. 4x more latency with Cubase for the same taks, all hardware being equal. But. There appears to be a limitation on the number of midi ports the sequencer sees, up to and not more than 16 chennels. So... Cubase 5.5 handles 4 or more cores noticably better in my own projects so far; but still nowhere near what I expect from a fairly robust master machine. I'm weighing these two hosts' limitations in terms of the next project. I don't think I can really give Cubase/OSX a good rec for larger ensembles of virtual instruments, it's very high maintenance work.I say there's nothing wrong with Cubase's capabilities; it's workflow isn't for everyone of course. But the latency situation under OSX is not at all good. I'm no keyboardist and expect to do some tweezing; people who expect to nail some performances and make quick work out of it will be driven crazy I think.My performance with VE Pro on a MacPro 8-core Nehalem 24 GB as a slave is quite splendid. Before you believe anyone on broad claims on platform performance per se, I'd look at some benchmarks, and with a critical eye (for instance I saw one 'platform wars shootout' which used Cubase as the host, which is going to come out Majorly in favor of Windows, since ASIO is the low latency standard there. The writer neglected to mention the ASIO vs Not ASIO problem, which is HUGE, until after he started)... Another problem with this Core vs ASIO is when you have the AU component version installed, as I do, here's what Cubase does when you instantiate a VST plugin: it fetches it from the Components folder and wraps it into the .vst. I know this from crash reports.At this point, I'm not sure if a windows box/Cubase would have been better for my master machine vs Mac/Logic. Logic is a more attractive package in terms of bang for the buck, that much I can confidently say. Cubase 5.5 behaving much better, VE Pro allows far tighter timing with this latency, there's no midi ports limit with vst3...","pid":170107,"tid":25366,"timestamp":1277356286030,"uid":41298,"edited":1697395411854,"editor":"uid":41298,"username":"civilization 3","userslug":"civilization-3","displayname":"civilization 3","deleted":0,"upvotes":0,"downvotes":0,"deleterUid":0,"replies":"hasMore":false,"hasSingleImmediateReply":false,"users":[],"text":"[[topic:one-reply-to-this-post]]","count":0,"bookmarks":0,"votes":0,"timestampISO":"2010-06-24T05:11:26.030Z","editedISO":"2023-10-15T18:43:31.854Z","index":8,"user":"uid":41298,"username":"civilization 3","userslug":"civilization-3","reputation":1,"postcount":1931,"topiccount":48,"picture":null,"signature":"","banned":false,"banned:expire":0,"status":"offline","lastonline":1705664796965,"groupTitle":"[\"Unmoderated\"]","mutedUntil":0,"displayname":"civilization 3","groupTitleArray":["Unmoderated"],"icon:text":"C","icon:bgColor":"#85A73E","lastonlineISO":"2024-01-19T11:46:36.965Z","banned_until":0,"banned_until_readable":"Not Banned","muted":false,"selectedGroups":[],"custom_profile_info":[],"bookmarked":false,"upvoted":false,"downvoted":false,"selfPost":false,"events":[],"topicOwnerPost":false,"display_edit_tools":false,"display_delete_tools":false,"display_moderator_tools":false,"display_move_tools":false,"display_post_menu":0,"content":"Give John Barry a call and ask him what he thinks. Tell him you're studying in York.","pid":170112,"tid":25366,"timestamp":1277379794100,"uid":2130,"deleted":0,"upvotes":0,"downvotes":0,"deleterUid":0,"edited":0,"replies":"hasMore":false,"hasSingleImmediateReply":false,"users":[],"text":"[[topic:one-reply-to-this-post]]","count":0,"bookmarks":0,"votes":0,"timestampISO":"2010-06-24T11:43:14.100Z","editedISO":"","index":9,"user":"uid":2130,"username":"PaulR","userslug":"paulr","reputation":0,"postcount":2345,"topiccount":51,"picture":null,"signature":"","banned":false,"banned:expire":0,"status":"offline","lastonline":1705664322069,"groupTitle":null,"mutedUntil":0,"displayname":"PaulR","groupTitleArray":[],"icon:text":"P","icon:bgColor":"#85A73E","lastonlineISO":"2024-01-19T11:38:42.069Z","banned_until":0,"banned_until_readable":"Not Banned","muted":false,"selectedGroups":[],"custom_profile_info":[],"editor":null,"bookmarked":false,"upvoted":false,"downvoted":false,"selfPost":false,"events":[],"topicOwnerPost":false,"display_edit_tools":false,"display_delete_tools":false,"display_moderator_tools":false,"display_move_tools":false,"display_post_menu":0,"content":"Hi Guys. After a few months of silence i have returned. Im now at university in south london. They all use MACS and i got given a top spec macbook pro for free its a core i7 with 8GB of RAM and a universal audio UAD2 solo laptop sound card. I also got logic studio with logic pro 9 and Komplete 7. I was surprised to see the bundled extras that come with logic studio like all the sound FX, etc. Anyway, i have been gradually getting into logic and getting used to MAC OSX for the first time. i like it, but i miss my cubase 5 on my windows PC back at home. I dont know if its just me, but it seems as though logic pro 9 is not a 64-bit DAW.....if thats true then thats total rubbish! btw i was wondering if solid-state drives make a massive difference when composing with high quality sound libraries like VSL? and also is it good to invest in a 2nd computer to have a master and slave machine...i dont quite understand how that all works but ive seen posts on this forum about it...Tim","pid":176908,"tid":25366,"timestamp":1288034079833,"uid":25015,"deleted":0,"upvotes":0,"downvotes":0,"deleterUid":0,"edited":0,"replies":"hasMore":false,"hasSingleImmediateReply":false,"users":[],"text":"[[topic:one-reply-to-this-post]]","count":0,"bookmarks":0,"votes":0,"timestampISO":"2010-10-25T19:14:39.833Z","editedISO":"","index":10,"user":"uid":25015,"username":"The_Timinator","userslug":"the_timinator","reputation":0,"postcount":29,"topiccount":9,"picture":null,"signature":"","banned":false,"banned:expire":0,"status":"offline","lastonline":1705664397680,"groupTitle":null,"mutedUntil":0,"displayname":"The_Timinator","groupTitleArray":[],"icon:text":"T","icon:bgColor":"#6D9071","lastonlineISO":"2024-01-19T11:39:57.680Z","banned_until":0,"banned_until_readable":"Not Banned","muted":false,"selectedGroups":[],"custom_profile_info":[],"editor":null,"bookmarked":false,"upvoted":false,"downvoted":false,"selfPost":false,"events":[],"topicOwnerPost":true,"display_edit_tools":false,"display_delete_tools":false,"display_moderator_tools":false,"display_move_tools":false,"display_post_menu":0,"content":" @Tim Barnes said: , but it seems as though logic pro 9 is not a 64-bit DAW....TimLogic IS 64 bit and it can runs 32 and 64 bit AU plug-ins","pid":176921,"tid":25366,"timestamp":1288059149533,"uid":4306,"edited":1697396216487,"editor":"uid":4306,"username":"Cyril Blanc","userslug":"cyril-blanc","displayname":"Cyril Blanc","deleted":0,"upvotes":0,"downvotes":0,"deleterUid":0,"replies":"hasMore":false,"hasSingleImmediateReply":false,"users":[],"text":"[[topic:one-reply-to-this-post]]","count":0,"bookmarks":0,"votes":0,"timestampISO":"2010-10-26T02:12:29.533Z","editedISO":"2023-10-15T18:56:56.487Z","index":11,"user":"uid":4306,"username":"Cyril Blanc","userslug":"cyril-blanc","reputation":18,"postcount":2937,"topiccount":242,"picture":"/assets/uploads/profile/4306-profileavatar-1701315770652.jpeg","signature":"MacBook Pro M3 MAX 128 GB 8TB - 2 x 48\" screen \r\n--- Logic Pro\r\n--- Mir Pro 3D\r\n--- Most of the VI libs, a few Synch... libs\r\n--- Quite a few Kontakt libs\r\n--- CS80 fanatic","banned":false,"banned:expire":0,"status":"offline","lastonline":1713457544880,"groupTitle":"[\"\"]","mutedUntil":1708587116112,"displayname":"Cyril Blanc","groupTitleArray":[""],"icon:text":"C","icon:bgColor":"#58608D","lastonlineISO":"2024-04-18T16:25:44.880Z","banned_until":0,"banned_until_readable":"Not Banned","muted":false,"selectedGroups":[],"custom_profile_info":[],"bookmarked":false,"upvoted":false,"downvoted":false,"selfPost":false,"events":[],"topicOwnerPost":false,"display_edit_tools":false,"display_delete_tools":false,"display_moderator_tools":false,"display_move_tools":false,"display_post_menu":0,"content":"Cubase constantly crashes on me due to virtual instruments taking up memory. My life will be much more satisfied when Cubase goes to 64 bit on the Mac. Hopefully that will solve the crashing due to virtual instrument samples being loaded up.","pid":176990,"tid":25366,"timestamp":1288221130533,"uid":42558,"deleted":0,"upvotes":0,"downvotes":0,"deleterUid":0,"edited":0,"replies":"hasMore":false,"hasSingleImmediateReply":false,"users":[],"text":"[[topic:one-reply-to-this-post]]","count":0,"bookmarks":0,"votes":0,"timestampISO":"2010-10-27T23:12:10.533Z","editedISO":"","index":12,"user":"uid":42558,"username":"admagic","userslug":"admagic","reputation":0,"postcount":7,"topiccount":3,"picture":null,"signature":"","banned":false,"banned:expire":0,"status":"offline","lastonline":1696292291969,"groupTitle":null,"mutedUntil":0,"displayname":"admagic","groupTitleArray":[],"icon:text":"A","icon:bgColor":"#D05428","lastonlineISO":"2023-10-03T00:18:11.969Z","banned_until":0,"banned_until_readable":"Not Banned","muted":false,"selectedGroups":[],"custom_profile_info":[],"editor":null,"bookmarked":false,"upvoted":false,"downvoted":false,"selfPost":false,"events":[],"topicOwnerPost":false,"display_edit_tools":false,"display_delete_tools":false,"display_moderator_tools":false,"display_move_tools":false,"display_post_menu":0,"content":"yeah crashes are not nice! i just made my first composition on logic pro 9 today and i am liking the ease of use now i know some shortcuts etc and they come with some amazing stuff like cool sound FX unlike Cubase. 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VSL does. Native Instruments does. PSP makes a couple. EastWest does not. IK Multimedia does not. So to get it to really run stable, if you are mixing 64 and 32 bit plugins, you still have to run Logic in 32 bit mode. Otherwise you are always at risk of the 32 bit bridge crashing if you are pushing the RAM limits, and that is such a drag.But on the PC side, just about every plugin seems to be 64 bit capable (at least the major ones I am thinking of as above). Running VE PRO on the PC allows you to just load a crazy amount of stuff in 64 bit mode and max out only when you get to the end of the installed RAM. So, use the mac as your main machine. Use the PC as the slave, and put as much ram as you can in it. Use VE PRO to connect them and make them talk. If you exceed the capabilities of the PC for hosting samples, get another newer one with more juice. Then you can have 2 slaves working with the macbook pro. spread out the plugins across the two PC's, or if the new PC is powerful enough (like an 8 or 12 core Xeon with SSD's etc and 48+GB of RAM), just ditch the old one.Also realize that you will be done with school in no time. At that point, you are free to ditch the MAC. every program runs the same. same principals behind the workflow. just different ways of doing similar things with different command names and shortcut keys. some are more frustrating for some things. some seem easier or more familiar.Protools is great for mixing and audio editing is easy. maybe a little more frustrating for MIDI stuff. Logic is great but mac only, and has a bunch of weird little things and bugs that pop up from time to time - etc. It goes on and on. you might find that after school, you will just ditch the Mac, go back and get the most uber powerful PC that ever hit the planet, get the newest version of cubase, and be able to host the whole VSL cube in the machine, and do crazy big arrangements with only that one machine. 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