Re: [Kumar Picasso Society] Re: Minutes of Jul 14, '13 GBM

[H Krishnan]

Hi Jaidev,

I see that your wife's email address r*.v*@gmail.com is registered in Kumar Picasso Society group.  So the mails from kumar-pica...@googlegroups.com should have gone to that address. You can access past messages at http://groups.google.com/group/kumar-picasso-society (but you need to be logged on as r*.v*@gmail.com. 

Kumar Picasso Hadapsar Pune is the older group. I don't see your email address even in that and so I am not sure how you are getting the emails. Do you have a forward from your wife's address? Or may be someone bcc'd you.

Everyone: May I request that you register with Kumar Picasso Society group (http://groups.google.com/group/kumar-picasso-society) if you have not already done so. You can request membership via the website or by dropping me an email. This has more than 100 members now. This group is protected (only members can post or view messages).

Regards,

Krishnan

On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 6:49 AM, jaidev_iyer <jaide...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Dear Team ,

I have got this email but not earlier email with MOM.

Fyi I am owner of B1-103 & 104 flat.

Kindly requesting someone to fwd it to me. I stay in mumbai but keen to come this weekend and discuss with someone on implications of society formation and liability and maintenance cost increase over 100%.

Pls share cell number or flat number and I can meet u at your convenience.  Tx

Jaidev

Sent from Samsung Mobile

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From: Amrit S <arc...@gmail.com>
Date: 14/08/2013 23:27 (GMT+05:30)
To: himanshu shah <him...@gmail.com>,Kumar Picasso Hadapsar Pune <kumar-picasso...@googlegroups.com>
Cc: kumar-pica...@googlegroups.com,Sanjay Chandrani <chandran...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Kumar Picasso Society] Re: Minutes of Jul 14, '13 GBM

Thanks Himanshu for dropping this email, I also endorse your view point  that there should be a discussion/debate among Kumar Picasso residents to understand the implications of forthcoming 24th August's meeting with Kewal Jain to find out answers of common issues like :

1) Whether Conveyance deed can be obtained for the KP society without resolving backside corner plot's dispute?

2) What will be the status of our society without conveyance deed and who be benefited from that status? 

3) Why "SadeyStranali Gram Panchayat " is not accepting/demanding property tax from Bungalow residents?

4) What will be the implication of Bombay high court ruling on us? which says uniform maintenance charges should be collected in the housing society,

5) What obligation PMC/builder has for societies for their water requirements? whether PMC will provide only drinking water or total water consumption of the society? 

6) Whether PMC will accept society without Sewage Treatment Plant?

7) The revised maintenance charges has been imposed on residents! whether we get improvement in services? or this increment is only to prevent further degradation of service ?

There were two thefts in society ( one recently in  the last week). What step has been taken after earlier theft so that recent one could have been prevented? 

 I may not have answers for these common concerns but we need to go to expert to find exact implications. 

Fortunately I come across recording of NDTV program about conveyance deed  , hope this will help you as it has helped me.

 ( please fast forward to 16.30 minute to watch conveyance deed section of the discussion).

Regards

Amrit

Note : If you need clarification or detail please send email directly as i am not part of email group.

 

On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 10:32 PM, himanshu shah <him...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Picasso family,

Are we planning to meet on 15th August or next weekend (whichever is feasible)...before we meet KP (Kumar Properties) associates on 24th August (as we discussed in out last meeting)?

If yes, then kindly circulate the dates in advance so that we can have maximum residents.

The agenda of the meeting will be 

a) Who will represent society while discussing with builder / stake holder / Kumar Properties

b) Finalizing on the points to be discussed on 24th August

Thanks,

Himanshu Shah

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 5:15 PM, amitshukla.s <amitsh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear All,

Entire scenario was confusing and in mess:

-We have no confirmation in terms of permanent source of water and we were discussing RO installation and its effects on maintenance cost.

-Maintenance of Rs. 2.25 per sq. ft includes what. Adhoc committee have confirmed that RO installation will not effect the maintenance cost so whether builder is bearing the cost of RO maintenance

-We have already passed on 10th Feb 13 meeting about hiring  a lawyer and we were discussing the law and every one have their own understanding and version and overall confusion prevails in the meeting. Why are going ahead without any expert advice when it was passed on 10th Feb meeting.

-We have pushed society formation in last 5 months and it is proposed for 3rd August when our boundaries are not secured and hell lot of issues are pending

-One of the Adhoc committee was claiming that Adhoc committee is desolved and transparency is not maintained by them so who is representing us

-Answer of every question was read the email

-Builder will hand-over the society to us with all the pending issue he may attach a promise to it and we have no option available other than taking the society in our hands. So what we were doing till date. Output is hardly anything for all the efforts and meeting happened till date.

Are we misleaded?

My recommendation is hire a lawyer and sit together and decide the action plan for 3rd August 2013 or else we will not be able to ensure our interest. It's really important to be on the same page on 3rd August 2013. If Adhoc committee can share the list of the issues they were pushing till date so that we can add to it. Also we need to prioritize the issues. Who will lead the meeting on 3rd August 2013? 

If issues are not resolved before 3rd August 2013 then I am not in favor of society formation.

Also the last point in  the attached MOM of 14th July is not correct and biased. Kindly avoid such description in MOM.

Regards,

Amit Shukla

 

On Monday, 15 July 2013 09:22:25 UTC+5:30, yesheen.vibhakar wrote:

Dear KP family,

 

Please go through the draft minutes. In case additions/ deletions/ modifications are needed - please strike through the portions that should be removed/ rephrased and state the alternate portion. Request the same to be done by Tue, Jul 16 mid night. Thereafter I will enter the data in the format for record.

 

Best,

Yesheen

 

 

 

The following points were discussed and Agreed upon:

# Subject 1: Points to be taken up with the builder

# Agreement 1: All members will go through the emails and mention points that are currently not mentioned and should be included in the list of pending Items submitted to the builder. These points will be sent latest to Yesheen Vibhakar’s mail account by Mon, Jul 15 late night

 

# Subject 2: Society registration to Formation process

# Agreement 2: It was resolved to continue persisting the builder to validate and/ or modify the document sent to them on the Society registration to Conveyance deed transfer process clarity

 

# Subject 3: Commitments made by builder to earlier committees

# Agreement 3: Sanjay Chandrani agreed to take the lead to provide documents stating earlier commitments (by previous Ad hoc Committee) by builder to the Society and vice versa

 

# Subject 4: Society Accounts (expenses) Verification

# Agreement 4: It was agreed to request a practising Chartered Accountant go through the records submitted and queries raised. It was clarified that there are two box files at the builder’s office which are open for inspection. There are two practising Chartered accountants whose names were suggested (Ms Lily Shukla and Ms Shilpa Vyas). Sanjeev Thacker (also a CA, but not practising) offered to contribute   

 

# Sub 5: Common stand prior to meeting Builder

# Res 5: Himanshu Shah proposed that all members should meet once again the Sunday before the appointed date of Society formation whereby all are on the same page

 

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