Horrible fonts 11.10

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Nigel Ridley

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Mar 14, 2012, 6:53:11 AM3/14/12
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Running 11.10
Don't really know why I did it but I went into System Setting > Application Appearance > Fonts
and changed the option 'Use anti_aliasing:' from 'System Settings' to 'Enabled' and then clicked
on the 'Configure' button and checked 'Use sub-pixel rendering:'RGB' and then chose 'Hinting
style:' 'Medium'. Clicked 'OK' and then 'Apply'.
Then the fonts looked ugly in newly opened apps. I then went back and returned the font setting
to how they were to begin with: 'Use anti_aliasing:' 'System Settings'. But still the fonts
looked the same :-( No matter what I tried to change the fonts still are ugly.

What can I do to get back my nice looking fonts?

Nigel

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Mark Greenwood

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Mar 14, 2012, 6:58:52 AM3/14/12
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I quite often find that when you change those font settings you need to log out and log in again before they have the correct effect. It can be tedious. I also find that setting it to one thing and then changing it back doesn't always get it back to the initial state without a complete reboot, or maybe two complete reboots. Shouting at it helps too, I think. It's been that way since I can remember, even back into KDE3.

Mark

Nigel Ridley

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Mar 14, 2012, 10:52:50 AM3/14/12
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On 03/14/2012 12:58 PM, Mark Greenwood wrote:
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> I quite often find that when you change those font settings you need to log out and log in again before they have the correct effect. It can be tedious. I also find that setting it to one thing and then changing it back doesn't always get it back to the initial state without a complete reboot, or maybe two complete reboots. Shouting at it helps too, I think. It's been that way since I can remember, even back into KDE3.
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>> Running 11.10
>> Don't really know why I did it but I went into System Setting> Application Appearance> Fonts and changed the option 'Use anti_aliasing:' from 'System Settings' to 'Enabled' and then clicked on the 'Configure' button and checked 'Use sub-pixel rendering:'RGB' and then chose 'Hinting style:' 'Medium'. Clicked 'OK' and then 'Apply'.
>> Then the fonts looked ugly in newly opened apps. I then went back and returned the font setting to how they were to begin with: 'Use anti_aliasing:' 'System Settings'. But still the fonts looked the same :-( No matter what I tried to change the fonts still are ugly.
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>> What can I do to get back my nice looking fonts?
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Tried the 2 reboots after putting back the settings as they were originally but the fonts are not
crisp as they used to be.
Since this was a per-user setting (I didn't have to enter my password so it can't have had a
system wide effect), there must be a config file somewhere in .kde that I can change or
overwrite. Any ideas what it might be called?

I might just rename .kde and let KDE create a new one (then arrange my user space how I like
it.........).

Isak Enström

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Mar 14, 2012, 10:57:27 AM3/14/12
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Try deleting/renaming /home/<username>/.fonts.conf

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Nigel Ridley

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Mar 14, 2012, 11:31:25 AM3/14/12
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On 03/14/2012 04:57 PM, Isak Enström wrote:
> Den 14 mars 2012 11:53 skrev Nigel Ridley<ni...@prayingforisrael.net>:
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>> Running 11.10
>> Don't really know why I did it but I went into System Setting>
>> Application Appearance> Fonts and changed the option 'Use anti_aliasing:'
>> from 'System Settings' to 'Enabled' and then clicked on the 'Configure'
>> button and checked 'Use sub-pixel rendering:'RGB' and then chose 'Hinting
>> style:' 'Medium'. Clicked 'OK' and then 'Apply'.
>> Then the fonts looked ugly in newly opened apps. I then went back and
>> returned the font setting to how they were to begin with: 'Use
>> anti_aliasing:' 'System Settings'. But still the fonts looked the same :-(
>> No matter what I tried to change the fonts still are ugly.
>>
>> What can I do to get back my nice looking fonts?
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>> Nigel
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> Try deleting/renaming /home/<username>/.fonts.conf
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That did the trick - Thank you :-)
I was actually .fontconfig

Mark Greenwood

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Mar 14, 2012, 11:33:36 AM3/14/12
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> I might just rename .kde and let KDE create a new one (then arrange my user space how I like it......…).

Generally for things like this I go and look in ~/.kde/share/config and find a file that looks as though it has the right sort of filename. They're all plain text as well so you can read them. Find the right one, or guess at one, move it somewhere else, and log out.

Mark

Nigel Ridley

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Mar 14, 2012, 3:02:31 PM3/14/12
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I thought it was solved - the fonts looked much better than before but they are still not crisp.
The only thing I could find in .kde was .kde/share/config/kcmfonts:
[General]
dontChangeAASettings=true
forceFontDPI=0

So where else might the settings be?
I suppose I could put up with them and wait until a clean install of 12.04

Basil Chupin

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Mar 15, 2012, 7:47:37 AM3/15/12
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On 15/03/12 06:02, Nigel Ridley wrote:
> On 03/14/2012 05:31 PM, Nigel Ridley wrote:

You don't mention on what hardware you are having this problem - a
desktop with XXXXX monitor (where XXXX is a CRT or an LCD, which make
and at what resolution) or is on a laptop.

You also don't mention what video you are using - nVidia or Radeon, on
board the mobo or as a separate video card - and whether you have the
*proper* driver installed or still using the default driver.

Nor do you mention which fonts you are using. I mention this because
there are fonts specially designed for printers and those designed for
use for displaying text on monitors.

The other thing, if you want to see decent fonts you do need to enable
anti-aliasing with sub-pixel rendering -provided that you have the
proper video driver installed and you monitor is capable of doing this.

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Nigel Ridley

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Mar 15, 2012, 10:20:25 AM3/15/12
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It is on a Dell Inspiron 1525 laptop with Intel onboard graphics. But non of that is really
important as the fonts were wonderful before I changed the settings and now changing the settings
back to the way they were still leaves the fonts not as they were.
The point of all this is: How does one get back the original settings that come with a default
install after having played with the settings and messed them up?

I shall create another user account and see if the fonts are clean - if they are then I shall try
and find the config file and copy it over to my account.

Nigel


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Mark Greenwood

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Mar 15, 2012, 10:25:40 AM3/15/12
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Nigel,

It has occurred to me that I vaguely recall there is some kind of cacheing going on which complicates matters. I think what might help is to set your settings back as they were and change the font. Then log out, log back in, and change the font back to the original font without altering the other settings. I think that usually works for me.

Mark

Nigel Ridley

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Mar 15, 2012, 11:45:46 AM3/15/12
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Nope. That didn't do it.
After I created a new account and logged into it the fonts were great but I couldn't find any
config file that contained anything to do with fonts.
Logging out and renaming .kde to .kdesomething_else from a tty then logging back into a fresh new
.kde also didn't help - the fonts were still not clean and sharp. So the config file is not in .kde.
My next try will be to make a backup of all my stuff and wipe my home folder of everything and
rebuild it back to what it was -- what a pain..... :-(

Nigel

Clay Weber

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Mar 15, 2012, 5:55:15 PM3/15/12
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Have you looked at your ~/.fonts.conf and ~/.fontconfig? That may be a place to
start. If you have a ~/.kderc that may have some font selections in there as
well.

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Nigel Ridley

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Mar 16, 2012, 1:24:09 AM3/16/12
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YES! Sorry for shouting but that finally did it :-)
I renamed the ~/.fonts.conf and ~/.kderc, letting the system create new ones on a new login. Now
everything is looking crisp and clean again :-) :-)

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