How to use "semantic desktop" (nepomuk search)?
Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa
After investing a lot of time and system resources, I'm beginning to
wonder if it really worth to have file indexing enabled.... or maybe,
I just don't know how to use it.
I have file indexing enabled, and, as far as I know, I should type in
some words on the search box on Dolphin, and I should get search
results related to the words I entered, right? well, I can't
understand why when I type in (for example) 201203 (to get some files
that *I know* includes that string on the name), I get, in addition to
these files, A LOT of unrelated files (some .mp3 files, some videos,
even plain text files that doesn't have that string anywhere!).
Please note I'm searching for filename, not content, so: it shouldn't
include files that doesn't have the search string on its name.
Has anybody around here used this search system correctly? also, do
you have any pointers that can help me better understand this?
Thanks!
Ildefonso
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Basil Chupin
> Greetings,
>
> After investing a lot of time and system resources, I'm beginning to
> wonder if it really worth to have file indexing enabled.... or maybe,
> I just don't know how to use it.
>
> I have file indexing enabled, and, as far as I know, I should type in
> some words on the search box on Dolphin, and I should get search
> results related to the words I entered, right? well, I can't
> understand why when I type in (for example) 201203 (to get some files
> that *I know* includes that string on the name), I get, in addition to
> these files, A LOT of unrelated files (some .mp3 files, some videos,
> even plain text files that doesn't have that string anywhere!).
>
> Please note I'm searching for filename, not content, so: it shouldn't
> include files that doesn't have the search string on its name.
>
> Has anybody around here used this search system correctly? also, do
> you have any pointers that can help me better understand this?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ildefonso
The first thing I always do is to switch off this nepo thing - meaning
that I don't use it. All I can do is offer a suggestion as to why you
are getting the results you are getting: that number is very
suspiciously like a date.
Perhaps one should use ' ' around the search word? dunno because, as I
said, I don't use this resource-gobbling monster.
(You know, it is rather strange......I use 99.9% of the time mc
(Midnight Commander) as my file manager and it has a search facility
which can also search the contents of files. And it does not tie up my
resources......)
BC
--
The vulgar crowd always is taken by appearances, and the world consists chiefly of the vulgar.
Niccolo Machiavelli
Mark Greenwood
On 16 Mar 2012, at 05:27, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> After investing a lot of time and system resources, I'm beginning to
> wonder if it really worth to have file indexing enabled.... or maybe,
> I just don't know how to use it.
>
> I have file indexing enabled, and, as far as I know, I should type in
> some words on the search box on Dolphin, and I should get search
> results related to the words I entered, right? well, I can't
I can't help you because I didn't even know there was a search box on Dolphin. How did you get that to appear?
Mark
Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa
> On 16/03/12 16:27, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote:
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> After investing a lot of time and system resources, I'm beginning to
>> wonder if it really worth to have file indexing enabled.... or maybe,
>> I just don't know how to use it.
>>
>> I have file indexing enabled, and, as far as I know, I should type in
>> some words on the search box on Dolphin, and I should get search
>> results related to the words I entered, right? well, I can't
>> understand why when I type in (for example) 201203 (to get some files
>> that *I know* includes that string on the name), I get, in addition to
>> these files, A LOT of unrelated files (some .mp3 files, some videos,
>> even plain text files that doesn't have that string anywhere!).
>>
>> Please note I'm searching for filename, not content, so: it shouldn't
>> include files that doesn't have the search string on its name.
>>
>> Has anybody around here used this search system correctly? also, do
>> you have any pointers that can help me better understand this?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Ildefonso
>
>
> The first thing I always do is to switch off this nepo thing - meaning that
> I don't use it. All I can do is offer a suggestion as to why you are getting
> the results you are getting: that number is very suspiciously like a date.
> Perhaps one should use ' ' around the search word? dunno because, as I said,
> I don't use this resource-gobbling monster.
Yep, it is a date, but the files it brought doesn't have that date
anywhere either :( . As a matter of fact, almost for any search term,
I always get some unrelated files.
>
> (You know, it is rather strange......I use 99.9% of the time mc (Midnight
> Commander) as my file manager and it has a search facility which can also
> search the contents of files. And it does not tie up my resources......)
Well, it doesn't tie up resources anymore (I can barely tell it is
running), but it took over a week for it to finish indexing, and, at
last, say that it was idle. Consider I have over 200k files on my
home folder, so....
I use to use mlocate, and I'm happy with it, however, I got the
feeling this file indexer could be good, because you should quickly
get files that contains a string, without having actually read all
your files everytime you want to search (I don't believe mc have a
persistent index, does it?... I use to use find + grep, or locate +
grep (and a for) to search within file's content).
Ildefonso.
Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 6:00 AM, Mark Greenwood <fatg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 16 Mar 2012, at 05:27, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote:
>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> After investing a lot of time and system resources, I'm beginning to
>> wonder if it really worth to have file indexing enabled.... or maybe,
>> I just don't know how to use it.
>>
>> I have file indexing enabled, and, as far as I know, I should type in
>> some words on the search box on Dolphin, and I should get search
>> results related to the words I entered, right? well, I can't
>
> I can't help you because I didn't even know there was a search box on Dolphin. How did you get that to appear?
uh... well, on my Dolphin, I just see a couple of binoculars on the
toolbar, I just click there... it *almost* works. Except that it
shows unrelated files.... mmm.. now that I tried the other search type
(content), it doesn't show unrelated files, and it is quite fast....
this thing looks interesting.
Ildefonso.