International women's day. March 8th.
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I post this again because of international women's day.
Selection of two paragraphs on women's issues (link talk: http://www.jiddu-krishnamurti.net/…/1980-01-19-jiddu-krishn…)
We are going to find out if there is an order beyond thought. Right? Now what do you mean by that word `order'? We must be clear, both of us when we use the word `order', what do we mean by it? As we said, the origin of that word is the beginning, the beginning, not the end, not the cause, but the very beginning of energy. I wonder if you get all this. You understand my question? Order implies a state of mind which can also act where thought is necessary, but also be free of thought so that it has an order of the universe. Sir, the universe, which is the rising of the sun and the setting of the sun, the new moon and the full moon, the bright stars, they are in complete order. Right? If the sun didn't rise tomorrow or for the next few days we would all be dead. There is order in the universe. And that order is not based on our thought. Do you follow? Please follow this, see the beauty of it, come. Nature is not put together by thought. Thought out of nature has created various things, table, chair, and so on, out of the earth, but the earth, nature, the stars, the beauty of the heavens, the waters, is not put together by thought. And they function, if man doesn't interfere, in complete order. Right? There is total complete order, absolute order.
Now we are going to find out if in our daily life such absolute order can come into being. You understand my question? We accept disorder. Right? Not only outwardly, but inwardly. Corruption is disorder. The lack of efficiency in the highest places is disorder. When there is a quarrel between two people that is disorder. When man treats woman as though she was mere chattel, as it happens in this country where you don't respect a woman, that is disorder. And without creating order between man and woman you want to find out absolute order. Which is, without understanding disorder and acting so as to live in disorder in our daily life you can't possibly understand the other. You can speculate, write a thesis, take a PhD, become a philosopher. These are just nonsensical, irrational, irrelevant activities when we are concerned with disorder in our daily life. You are following all this? Now you have heard that? Will you realize how you treat women? Right? And change it, say, yes, I agree, it is so, we do ill-treat our women, we have no respect for them, we use them for sexual purposes, to breed our children, and if we have a girl she has a very bad time. You know all this. And all that is disorder and unless you change that radically, you can't possibly find out an order that is so absolute. You are following all this? Will you do it? No, you won't. And that is why our society is degenerating and corrupt, because we think one thing and do a totally different thing.