Re: Guitar Pro 7.5 Soundbank Download
Merlina Magobet
Newbie here so I'm assuming this has been flogged pretty thoroughly before but searches were rather painful to sort through to find my answer. If someone can point me to a thread that'd if there is one that'd be just fine. But my question is how to create guitar sounds that are much more realistic. When I create a guitar track that is relatively distortion free it always sounds vaguely like a harpsichord. I've improved on that a bit by downloading .gp files others have created for jazz guitar in particular, but none have really hit the spot I'm looking for. I'm pretty sure I have the RSE soundbank installed (how can I check?) so I'm as updated as I can possibly be in the software. Thanks much.
New to logic and need some help. When I play my guitar into logic from my scarlet audio interface, it produces a loud, distorted, crackly sound that I can't change even when I click on different preset sounds. It's always the same sound. I'll call it "sound X".
This happened when I opened my song project, plugged in a bass guitar for this first time and it produced this awful, unadjustable sound. I plugged my guitar in and after it just seems to be stuck on "sound X". I closed out the project, didn't save and when I open it's the same thing. I'm losing my mind. Before everything came through as intended with different guitar sounds.
This is just my opinion though and in some situations a well played guitar emulation will do the job. If a professional guitar sound is required though, personally I think it would be worth hiring someone who can play well and knows how to create the sound you want.
Yup.. no matter the sound you're using, you should play it with a guitar brain to make it more acceptable to the ears.. this is not easy.. Doug from the soundtestroom actually understands this quite well and does some demos with guitaristic qualities..
My favourite 'guitar-like synth' is the classic DX-7 run through a guitar amp (sim).
It can sound stunningly real, if the synth wave is mostly clean, but not completely.
Many patches have interesting attack variations (or are easy to tweak that way).
I'm a horribly guitarist according to common standards, but I really enjoy my tone and articulation - and don't wanna miss the instrument interaction.
Btw this applies to acoustic guitars as well.
Actually none of the choices for me
I'm using pre-recorded, sliced guitar loops (mainly REX loops inside Stockholm in KORG Gadget). This gives me real performances and the option to change the riffs rhythmically and melodically to some extent.
Even on desktop, getting a real-sounding performance isn't easy although Ilya Efimov and Amplesound libraries sound quite good, as well as the RealGuitar series.
The controller is at least as important as the sound, with MPE near-essential for any kind of plausible expressiveness. I get least worst results with an Artiphon in tap mode simply playing the Artiphon app's acoustic guitar sound (which sounds absolutely dreadful on its own, but has been sampled well for MPE responsiveness) through Tonestack; the quality of the original sound isn't mission-critical if it's run through a nice crunchy distortion. But it only really works for solo lines. And acoustic, especially classical, guitar is pretty much a non-starter.
Basically I've tried all the usual input monitoring fixes I've read about but I've got a problem I can't seen to find on any forum. Basically I can hear the sound of certain logic guitar sounds and not others. For example in the Distorted guitar sounds I can hear Classic Drive but not Citric Acid (I can just hear a clean sound). My Audio Interface is a PreSonus Audiobox USB 96 and I've tried with the settings on the Universal Controller but there doesn't seem to be a clear fix on any option. If you have any advice it would be much appreciated!!
My first step to troubleshoot this would be to make sure your monitoring is set up correctly. First, in Logic, choose Logic Pro X > Preferences > Audio :: General, and disable "software monitoring". Now make sure you can NOT hear your guitar at all. If you can hear a clean guitar tone that means you're monitoring your guitar through your audio interface. You need to turn that monitoring off.
Once you've successfully set up your audio interface so there's no audio interface monitoring at all, you can monitor in Logic: turn software monitoring back on and see if you can hear your guitar presets as expected?
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There are times though when I need a variety of different guitar tones or simply just an alternative attitude to the sound of the guitar. These are the times when guitar amp plug-ins really come into their own because of the huge variety of tones available within amp plug-in presets. Finding good amp sounds within hundreds of presets though can be a challenge.
Over the years I've recorded through a variety of guitar amp plug-ins. Below are my "go to" clean, crunchy and overdriven guitar amp plug-in presets including short audio examples and reasons for why I use these presets, when I'm not using my Vox AC30, regularly in my guitar recording workflow.
Guitar amp plug-ins usually include a range of "signature" presets based on notable guitar players and popular guitar led songs. Can you guess what song this preset was based on? When I scroll through guitar amp presets I try to find ones that sound tasteful while complimenting my guitar playing style. The Sultan Of Silk preset is a really sweet sounding tone that makes good use of the built-in compressor component in Destructor. This is by far the best clean to slightly crunchy guitar preset I've found in my guitar amp plug-ins collection as it always fits in whatever mix I'm working on - no matter the song or guitar I'm playing.
I have used the Vintage Amp room by Softube for a number of years, in that time I have really taken to the slightly crunchy tones of the Brown "Fender-like" amp. The Brown Clean preset sounds great out of the box but I like to take it a step further by engaging the Vibrato section followed by tweaking the Speed & Intensity controls to get some lovely retro wobble in my guitar tone. I don't really care much for the other two amps in this plug-in as those amps sound too artificial when clean or overdriven.
Out of the four presets in this list, Thermitron Crunch in Waves GTR is my bread and butter guitar crunch tone. Many of my clients love to use this with a Telecaster as the results of the two produce great sounding guitars that fit into a mix easily. The tone and crunch characteristics of the ThermitronCrunch preset are very pleasing as the tone isn't too bright and the bass isn't too flabby. This amp generally feels quite tube like and responds very well when single coil pickup are used. The only control I tweak in this preset is the Microphone selector. GTR has 2 modelled condenser microphones and 2 modelled dynamic microphones both with on axis and off axis settings that provide me with some extended tone shaping if needed in the tracking stages.
Finding clean and crunchy guitar tones in guitar amp plug-ins can be challenging, but nowhere near as challenging as finding realistic sounding overdriven tones that feel great to play through the fingertips. Often overdriven guitar tones in guitar amp plug-ins sound over processed - "fake" but I've found one preset that feels great to play through and sounds "true". The preset is called Carlos In Europe found in Guitar Rig 5 by Native Instruments.
I'm sorry to hear your deception with a newly acquired instrument... that happens sometimes. Here's food for thoughts. First, please see this page of jazz guitar gear to read about what I personally use on a daily basis to obtain my jazz sound (on gigs, while teaching, during rehearsals, etc.) Perhaps it can help you get started.
Most of the time, it's not the "guitar's fault" if you don't have a good jazz sound. It's because you're not used to the instrument reacting in this fashion to the way you play, and hence you don't get the jazz guitar tone you hear on albums. With patience and some work, I'm sure you can come to love your AF75D plugged in the Peavey tube amp.
The guitar, amp and effects are merely "channeling" your musical ideas. Set the amp, stop worrying and see if you can make your musical voice shine through the rig. And eventually you'll realize that...
There are great historical examples of famous musicians playing and recording on badly "out of shape" instruments... still sounding amazing like they always do. You can hear Pat Metheny playing a solid body guitar a get a sound that's closer to what we'd call jazz guitar tone.
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