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Katie

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Dec 17, 2009, 8:21:17 PM12/17/09
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Greymane's argument is ridiculous. It's not an argument, he just
bashes you over the head a few times.

Just thought I'd point it out if anyone didn't notice, not trying to
influence decisions or anything. I'm on the fence myself.

Matt Curran

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Dec 17, 2009, 9:21:10 PM12/17/09
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I think I missed something...
 
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From: Katie <rust...@hotmail.com>
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Sent: Fri, 18 December, 2009 12:21:17 PM
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Matthew Armstrong

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Dec 17, 2009, 11:18:55 PM12/17/09
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Um, yeah. Same. 
Possibly the rest of this thread? 
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Katie

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Dec 21, 2009, 1:34:54 AM12/21/09
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I was referring to the Pay to Fight Poll... there's a heads up email a
few messages back, all SCA members are meant to get a voting pack in
the mail (which I did), on whether people should have to be paid SCA
members to be able to fight or not.
It has two points of view on it, which you're meant to read before
considering your vote. One of them is really stupid.
I was about to say they might be sending them out in order of name,
but as you guys come before me in the alphamabet, I guess not. Maybe
it's stuck with the posties being silly or something.


On Dec 18, 3:18 pm, Matthew Armstrong <m.d.armstr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Um, yeah. Same.
> Possibly the rest of this thread?
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> On 18/12/2009, at 1:21 PM, Matt Curran <korner_m...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
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> > I think I missed something...
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> > Krae Glas, Lochac.
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> > From: Katie <rustyr...@hotmail.com>
> > To: "Shire of Krae Glas, Lochac, SCA" <krae...@googlegroups.com>
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> > Subject: [KraeGlas] Pay to Fight Poll
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> > Greymane's argument is ridiculous. It's not an argument, he just
> > bashes you over the head a few times.
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> > Just thought I'd point it out if anyone didn't notice, not trying to
> > influence decisions or anything. I'm on the fence myself.
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Lillian Johnston

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Dec 21, 2009, 2:08:53 AM12/21/09
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I have only just received mine today, so dont panic, you will get one if you are a member :)

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Matt Curran

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Dec 21, 2009, 4:06:09 AM12/21/09
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I'm not actually paid up at the moment due to ongoing issues. Soon...

 
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Yves de Lyle

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Dec 22, 2009, 3:46:13 AM12/22/09
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I am paid up, but have not received one yet...

Yves

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Irina Lubomirska

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Dec 22, 2009, 3:50:28 AM12/22/09
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I got one a few days ago. And decided not to vote because it is not right for me to vote on something that will not impact me.

Alliette

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Dec 22, 2009, 9:28:37 PM12/22/09
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2009/12/18 Katie <rust...@hotmail.com>


I'm still thinking of which side of the fence I'll fall on, because this is a complex issue.  I hope no-one minds me thinking out loud here.

Yes, Greymane does repeat himself. Although I am curious about one point he does raise, which is "Best practice is martial combatants being members". Implying that other sporting clubs already do this. Does anyone out there know if this is true?

I can understand that to compete in a competition, like a crown which is our martial competition each 6 months, but what about other combatant-related events. Training is up to the individual, but the best training is competition with a board range of competitors. Will this limit he scope of fighting in the future?

Yves

Katie

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Dec 30, 2009, 6:43:36 PM12/30/09
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> Yes, Greymane does repeat himself. Although I am curious about one point he
> does raise, which is "Best practice is martial combatants being members".
> Implying that other sporting clubs already do this. Does anyone out there
> know if this is true?

I played competitive badminton for a long time, my association
required players be paid up at the start of the season. However, that
fee covered a number of things the association had to pay for, such as
badminton equipment (courts and their maintenance, shuttles are
expensive and quickly ruined, first aid), insurance, advertising and
paying the engraver to make our pretty trophies. My club also ran
fundraisers for a few years to pay for the upgrade from painted
asphalt courts to a sprung timber floor, and players were organised
into grades. Some tournaments were organised via selection, with the
cost covered by the club, and some were open but required a
registration fee to pay for the things I listed before.
Comparing that with SCA fighting, fighters supply all their own gear,
and the cost of the venue still comes out of their pockets rather than
their membership (like paying for events). First aid depends on the
group, and for lower level competition, fighters generally fight more
for honour than a trophy or something and the system is (mostly)
organised into those who are awesome fighters and those who are so-so,
and all are pitted against each other regardless. I don't know all the
insurance details, but if Alfar is right, the SCA's insurance doesn't
cover much, but again, I really don't know anything in that area.
(If I'm wrong about anything, feel free to correct me).
My opinion was that fighters shouldn't have to be members unless they
want to be, for purposes such as legal possession of swords and
things. I'm only a member because of the pay to fight thing, frankly I
feel the membership in general is $25 just for snobbery. Though if
anyone can tell me differently, go for it :)

>Will this limit the scope of fighting in the future?

Ask Tom how many people went to College War just after the pay to
fight thing came into being.

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