A workbench for Kogito

[Emanuel Feliciano]

Hello everyone,

I am facing a problem where I need the end customers to have access to the workflows and rules. The current challenge for the dev team is to provide an easy way for them to change those workflows without requiring us (dev team) to do that for them. 

There are a few things on my mind on how we can achieve this with what kogito already provides, but what I'm looking for is something similar to what drools have with Business Central and Execution Server.

So the question is if there is a stack within kogito that enables that kind of features or an alternative that can be easily integrated with Kogito?

If not already, will that kind of features be available in the Kogito roadmap?

Thanks!
And keep up the great work, Kogito is really already an awesome product!

[Rhett S]

Hi Emanuel,

amateur opinion here. great question!

Kogito is a cloud-native, lightweight, code-generating, rule + DMN + BPMN engine. Once you have your knowledge assets built, all you have to do is put them into the resources folder, mvn it, containerize it, and done. it runs anywhere. Authoring the knowledge assets is kinda out of scope of Kogito. Although Red Hat does offer up a few choices there.

It seems from your question that you want Business Central + Kogito. So use business central.:

- have your end-customers use biz-central. when the knowledge assets are ready for prod, have them push to local master in Biz Central.

- set up a githook on your biz central server that pushes knowledge-assets to remote repo.

- set up a githook push on your remote master that kicks off jenkins pipeline.

- in jenkins pipeline (perhaps with groovy) pull all knowledge files from your repo, push them into the resources folder of your kogito repo. mvn, container it, deploy to cloud. all in jenkins.

- at least my first thoughts. you said you have ideas, and I'll love to hear them too. :-) Rhett

[Emanuel Feliciano]

I see your point, it's a good idea. 

There are some disadvantages though, because Business Central is not cloud ready per se and there is a lot of configurations and possibly changes required on that front. And if there needs to be an effort then I think it should be for something worth the while. - Not that I think Business Central is bad :-)

My ideas are still very rough and high level and definitely need to be fleshed out but the rationale is about having:

* Kogito business modeler as the visual tool to edit the files. Or a cloud dev environment like Eclipse Che that supports what kogito has - Probably needs a bit more though in here but this shouldn't be too hard to figure out.

* A "dev environment" setup on the cloud with quarkus that can quickly read those changes and update the working environment. - shouldn't be too hard to do. 

* A configurable code repo - no brainer

* An authoring web app that can manage all that and also be able to have multi tenancy authoring. - This one probably needs to be developed in house.

And there's probably also something else that I'm not remembering right away haha :)

Emanuel.

[Alex Porcelli]

I strongly recommend you follow KIE Live [1] - we might have something of your interest in the upcoming weeks.

[1] - 

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLo3ZScdD9hW4S94iT3ZgOWm8asSHuMDYn

Regards,

Alex

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[Emanuel Feliciano]

Nice!

I'll be looking forward hear about it ;)

[Emanuel Feliciano]

Btw, is there a place where I can take a quick pick on what you're referring to? 

Thanks and

Keep up the good work! :-)

[Alex Porcelli]

Keep an eye on .new :)

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[geo...@gmail.com]

Kogito is an awesome solution . Appreciate  all your hard work