chat plugin to Kodingen

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devrim

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Jun 16, 2009, 7:00:54 PM6/16/09
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do you guys know a chat tool that we can integrate to Kodingen?
something light like facebook chat?

Glenn Heylen

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Jun 16, 2009, 10:25:14 PM6/16/09
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I haven't been looking too deep, but here is something I came up with:
http://anantgarg.com/2009/05/13/gmail-facebook-style-jquery-chat/

I don't think, though, that developing such a chat tool is that hard.
I might be wrong.

Maarten

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Jun 17, 2009, 5:33:24 AM6/17/09
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I looks nice indeed. But I don't think it's that hard to create
myself. Made a very very basic one in less than 30 minutes (with a
tutorial ^^).
But we can also extend this one ... But I'm not sure with the license.
It costs you money when you use it commercially, since the plan was to
ask money for companies who like to use the application.

Gonna check last year's exam and then I'm gonna dive into this! :-)

Greetz,
Maarten

Maarten

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Jun 17, 2009, 5:55:54 AM6/17/09
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Another few important things before the search for a good chat
application can start:

What do we want it to be able to do?
Conversations between more then two persons?
Should chat windows be draggable?
Can users give them self some kind of status (Idle, Gone, ...)?

Maybe some extra fancy features?
Like making it possible to use emoticons (like in Facebook, MSN,
Yahoo, ...)
Or like pasting links to a specific part in a code file. So you can
discuss it via chat.
Maybe the possibility to send invites (for teams) over chat. So you
can chat with that person and when you think he's worth it you just
press the link/button and he gets invited ...

I was just thinking out loud on the last few features ^^ But I think
they seem nice but they might be hard to develop.

But it might not be a bad idea to think about those extra features
before we decide whether we are going to write something ourself or we
are going to use an existing chat(plugin) and try to start from there.
I'm a fan of developing it from scratch. This will give us an
advantage if we want to add more features I think.

Greetz,
Maarten

Ruflin

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Jun 17, 2009, 6:11:52 AM6/17/09
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Here something else came to my mind: Google Wave. Perhaps it's a good
idea google wave (own server is possible) as communication software.
It combines live chat with e-mail and enables also a lot of additional
features ...

Glenn Heylen

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Jun 17, 2009, 6:49:28 AM6/17/09
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Anyway, is this really that important? Maybe you could put someone on
a branch when svn comes available.

On Jun 17, 1:00 am, devrim <dev...@payms.com> wrote:

Maarten

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Jun 17, 2009, 7:12:33 AM6/17/09
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Google Wave might indeed be a nice idea but at this moment as far as I
know it's only at closed beta.
But it has the potential to become something very big especially
because Google is behind it. But I don't think we can be sure that
this will really be the thing we need. Although it sure is expandable
and probably has the main features we need. We might wanna wait until
someone gets SandBox access or until the Public Beta launches in a few
months.

Greetz,
Maarten

devrim

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Jun 18, 2009, 2:49:14 PM6/18/09
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I just think chat is nice like it is on facebook. simple & elegant.
Our big aim in there is to have the infrastructure on coding on the
same page with more people, this will unleash tutoring experiences for
teachers, or you want to learn a language you can ask help from anyone
in the system. You can jump in someone else's code and talk to them at
the same time (check ribbit.com for voice integration) Makes sense
perfect sense for schools or sometimes I want Sinan to help me on some
Jquery stuff, he talks to me on skype, writes on my screen with
teamviewer. we can get the same feature set on Kodingen and it starts
with Chat..

So Google Wave make sense. I can get an invitation to it's source from
my friends at Google, i think they give it to you if you ask (I might
be wrong)

So chat on the code editor is the big picture, maybe i shouldn't try
to get a flying car instead get a flight ticket and a bus ticket but
it feels like it's the same thing, at least from what it looks like,
Google Wave is going to give us that functionality.

Maarten

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Jun 19, 2009, 1:45:52 AM6/19/09
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If that's what your aiming for I think Google Wave is really the thing
you need. I was just thinking about a chat plugin where you can put
links to parts of files. But this is way better.

Maybe if you have some contacts at Google you can get an account on
Google Wave but at the moment it's still closed (alpha/beta). You can
request entrance but I didn't get in yet with just that ^^ But maybe
if you explain why you want to use it they might give you an account.
I'm still a student ... ;-)

Give it a shot!

Greetz,
Maarten
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