Knanaya population
Saji george
population.somebody telling knanaya population is only 75000(jacobite)
and catholic is 160000.so i want know our populatiom.iam living in
abroad so i dont know about population,churches.if anybody know please
send me.regards,saji
Mathew Puthiamadathil
Our strength is estimated to be around 30,000 and Knanaya catholics are around 170,000. If we continue the current patterns, we will be down to 15,000 in about 25 years.
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Mathew
the members in each of our churches.
I will start with my church (St. Mary's Knanaya Church, Philadelphia).
We have around 250 members
Regards
Binu Mathew
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Dear Saji,
This information can be had more accurately if you check with Apraem Seminary Chingavanam wiht our Chief Metropolitan's office and the same regarding Knanaya Catholics can be had from their Araman in Kottayam where there has to be a centralized data giving details about total number rather than total members.
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Tinto chacko
for the purpose communitys growth, i mean unity is the strength wihch can lead our community for the bright future. so lets pray and work for samudayam
From: Mathew Puthiamadathil <puthi...@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Thu, 28 January, 2010 12:55:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Knanaya Family] Knanaya population
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Our strength is estimated to be around 30,000 and Knanaya catholics are around 170,000. If we continue the current patterns, we will be down to 15,000 in about 25 years.
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tinku raju
HI,
As per my knowledge, it will come in and around 40000 for jacobite
and nearly 200000 catholic. so please check it . Reg
Tinku kovoor
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Subject: Re: [Knanaya Family] Knanaya population
roby stephen
Dear Chinchu,
I have some apprehension on this figure . Could you please authenticate this by disclosing the source from which you got this information. The right agency that can give this figure , in my belief should be our Samudaya Head quarters at Chingavanam where defenitely a compendium of all churches' strength should be available.
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Saju Kannankuzhayathu
I hope at least by now you have realized the flip side of the democratic ecclesiasticism.
If our last generation would have realized it, we would have certainly been in a much better position, than, what and where, we are now today,as a community!.
In a decision making process, Criticism is an essential element to be constructive, but it should not certainly be destructive as always have been in our community.
Knanya Catholoics, of course criticize their policy and they do it for a Constructive Purpose, but we on the other side do it only for destructive purpose in every aspect, purely and mostly for leveraging and promoting the selfishness of the propagandist's "private agendas".
Should I have to say, when and where we started this? A honest past-assessment is not too late, if you truly love this community.
Don't blame any of our Metropolitans, they can't do anything, if we don't let them do anything, I mean anything at all. If we don't let our Metropolitans do anything to the community, the root cause is you and me and the history will repeat and then, when the each Metroploitans turn is over, we can repeat again and again, the same old saying what we said in the recent past.
"How great was our Clemis Metropolitan!"
Hope your family and you are keeping well.
Thank You
Saju
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Soju Thomas
Please don't get confused... kindly refer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knanaya., which has more accurate information. The population details are as follows :
- Knanaya Jacobite: 100,000
- Knanaya Catholic: 140,000
- Knanaya Pentacostal: 50,000
In all over 260,200 Knanaya Christian Jews continue in the ancient Hebrew-Christian tradition.
My dear brothers, It seems the above update is of 2002 - 2003. DEFINITELY OUR SAMUDAYAM/CHURCH IS NOT GROWING/INCREASING... IN FACT DAY BY DAY IT IS DECLINING... AND MAY BE 15 TO 25 YEARS DOWN THE LINE OUR NUMBERS WILL REDUCE DRASTICALLY...
The reason for my observationas are as follows :
1) Population of Knanaya Pentacostal is increasing day by day., our church should really ponder.. why People enmass are moving out of our Traditional Faith.. to Pentacostal Teaching... Our Leadership should sit and do an interospection to find out what is our shortcoming / what we lacks.... (rather than abusing whoever is not in terms with our traditional faiths)
Whoever objects to this statement should please lookaround and check howmany of your own family/relatives have gone to pentacostal faith since last 10 -15 years.
2) Last one decade we dopte a Nuclear family.. in any single family we will not find more than ONE OR TWO CHILDREN. Demographically in any community with 2 Kids., there will not be population growth., but NO GROWTH i.e Stagnation. WHEREAS in a family number of child is ONLY ONE.. there will be NEGATIVE POPULATION GROWTH.
Offlate Knanaya Catholic community understood the Second point and they started encourging the community for more Children and the Church Sponsor the education of every third child in a Family ...
Conclusion : IF OUR CURRENT LEADERSHIP IGNORES THESE ISSUES.. MAY BE 20 - 25 YEARS DOWN THE LINE.. IT WILL BE DIFFICULT FOR THEIR OWN CHILDREN TO FOLLOW THEIR FOOTSTEPS & FIGHT FOR THE POWER...
Trust everybody wikll take it in the right spirit for the Community's Interest.
Regards
Soju Thomas
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 15:46:40 +0530
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Subject: Re: [Knanaya Family] Knanaya population
Ikku
I don`t know why people think this way. Itsu and me who make up our
community and its the duty of U and me to take care of it also. So
atleast avoid these rubbish talks and come forward and act accordingly
to make sure that the statement that Mr. Roby have quoted
"We will be taken over by World Wild Life Organization as Endangered
species"
does not occure.
And this is a small thought i wanted to share with the youth wing of
our community (Guys of my age).
Mates, its just our mistake that there are a very few educated crowd
that are living amidst us. So that will gradually bringforth a
tendency of the parents of Madams (Ladies is what i meant ah) of our
age to think of an alternative way to get their children married and
guys within ur community don`t get married in the way they wish to do
and thats the reason our population is depreciating day by day!
Once you or anyone else, for that matter decides to be successful and
starts the search for success, fortune will automatically come in and
will bring a revolution in our Community.
So buddies, just take this up as a challange and always let the KNA
Flag fly high and Live like a Royal Blood.
Rock on buddies!!!
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> From: Mathew Puthiamadathil <puthiama...@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Knanaya Family] Knanaya population
> To: knanay...@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thursday, 28 January, 2010, 3:55 AM
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> Our strength is estimated to be around 30,000 and Knanaya catholics are around 170,000. If we continue the current patterns, we will be down to 15,000 in about 25 years.
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> Mathew puthiamadathil
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> Subject: [Knanaya Family] Knanaya population
> To: "Knanaya Family" <knanay...@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Thursday, January 28, 2010, 12:50 AM
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> Hai,iam saji, and iam living in qatar,i want know about our
> population.somebody telling knanaya population is only 75000(jacobite)
> and catholic is 160000.so i want know our populatiom.iam living in
> abroad so i dont know about population,churches.if anybody know please
> send me.regards,saji
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Soju Thomas
Please don't get confused... kindly refer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knanaya., may be which has more accurate information. The population details are as follows :
- Knanaya Jacobite: 100,000
- Knanaya Catholic: 140,000
- Knanaya Pentacostal: 50,000
In all over 260,200 Knanaya Christian Jews continue in the ancient Hebrew-Christian tradition.
My dear brothers, It seems the above update is of 2002 - 2003. DEFINITELY OUR SAMUDAYAM/CHURCH IS NOT GROWING/INCREASING... IN FACT DAY BY DAY IT IS DECLINING... AND MAY BE 15 TO 25 YEARS DOWN THE LINE OUR NUMBERS WILL REDUCE DRASTICALLY...
The reason for my observationas are as follows :
1) Population of Knanaya Pentacostal is increasing day by day., our church should really ponder.. why People enmass are moving out of our Traditional Faith.. to Pentacostal Teaching... Our Leadership should sit and do an interospection to find out what is our shortcoming / what we lacks.... (rather than abusing whoever is not in terms with our traditional faiths)
Whoever objects to this statement should please lookaround and check howmany of your own family/relatives have gone to pentacostal faith since last 10 -15 years.
2) Last one decade we dopte a Nuclear family.. in any single family we will not find more than ONE OR TWO CHILDREN. Demographically in any community with 2 Kids., there will not be population growth., but NO GROWTH i.e Stagnation. WHEREAS in a family number of child is ONLY ONE.. there will be NEGATIVE POPULATION GROWTH.
Offlate Knanaya Catholic community understood the Second point and they started encourging the community for more Children and the Church Sponsor the education of every third child in a Family ...
Conclusion : IF OUR CURRENT LEADERSHIP IGNORES THESE ISSUES.. MAY BE 20 - 25 YEARS DOWN THE LINE.. IT WILL BE DIFFICULT FOR THEIR OWN CHILDREN TO FOLLOW THEIR FOOTSTEPS & FIGHT FOR THE POWER...
Trust everybody wikll take it in the right spirit for the Community's Interest.
Regards
Soju Thomas
Anjilimoottil
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Remi Emmanuel Vattakkalm
It is new knowledge for me. So if somebody married from them, they continue as a knanaya catholic.....
Remie
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Sent: Wed, February 3, 2010 1:51:44 PM
Subject: RE: [Knanaya Family] Knanaya population
JAMES JOHN
Haven't you heard about Knanaya Petacosts?. This is a new sect within the Pentacosts emerged in the last 10 years. These Pentacosts would marry only from Knanites especially from knanaya Jacobites. They know very well that they wouldn't get any boys and girls from Knanaya Catholics. The losers are Knanaya Jacobites. Here we see even Pentacosts wants Knanaya heritage and tradition. Just imagine the value of Knanaya and how important it is and we should be proud of it.
Sincerely,
James Vattaparambil,
Atlanta.
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> Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 11:27 PM
> Knanaya Pentacostal
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> from them, they continue as a knanaya catholic.....
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jacob peter
I think the numbers listed below are not correct. could you please provide the reference from where you took the listed numbers from? also I believe kna is not a religion. A person still is a kna as long as he does not mix with the non-knas through marriage.
his identity still remains the same. A person's faith in any religion does not matter as long as he stays as a pure kna blood. A kna can choose his faith in any religion he believes like hinduism, muslim, sikh, etc.
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 20:27:11 -0800
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kj philip
Definitions
1. ‘Knanites’, by tradition, are the endogamous descendants of Kinai-Thoma or of a member of his team [who accompanied him to India in AD 345].
In other words,
They are those born to knanite (both) parents.
(Explanation: - One becomes a knanite by birth only. So, a non-knanite cannot become a knanite and a knanite a non-knanite.)
2. ‘Knanaya Community’, by tradition, is the community of knanites not wedded to non-knanites. (Explanation: - So, though all the members of the Community are knanites, all knanites are not its members.)
3. ‘Knanaya’, by tradition, is the endogamous nature and the name of the Community.
4. ‘Kna’ is a short name nowadays generally used to denote the members of the knanaya community.
5. ‘KANA’ is a new term used to indicate a knanite wedded to a non-knanite.
[N.B:- ‘Community’ is used here generally to denote the knanaya community.]
‘Knanaya-LAW’ by Tradition
“To be a part / member of the Community, the knanite should not be wedded to a non-knanite.”
Philip Nedumchira
saji philip
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