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The directives of the church should not be against the fundamentals of the community after separate diocese and parishes are allowed for them by the Church itself, because, it is for safe-guarding the interests of the community that they were allowed!  If the Church wants to give such directives against the interests of the community, the sanction for such parishes and diocese has to be withdrawn first! 

If 'knanaya' is to exist and grow, endogamy, along with the expulsion of those who opt exogamy, has to be continued till the end of the community. So, it cannot be 'adjusted' to fit to anything else! Endogamy cannot go hand-in-hand with inclusion! If 'inclusion' is allowed, what the relevance of endogamy?!  

So why not we discard endogamy and the 'knanaya' community, parishes and diocese together to 'fit to  the New Testament and modern ideals' ?! What is the harm?!  

Philip Nedumchira.


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I am not aware of anybody who opposes endogamous marriages within the same group, race, ethnicity, etc.  That is not the problem.  The problem arises when we take our feelings toward our own groups to extreme levels.  As a result, ideologies supporting slavery, racial segregation, caste system, apartheid, exclusion, separation, etc. came to the world.  These dark ideologies were defeated and replaced by the ideals of human equality, brotherhood, love, inclusion, integration, democracy, liberty, etc. due to the sacrifices of great souls like Jesus, Gandhi, Lincoln, Dr. King, etc. and through great struggles of people.


Jewish customs and believes at the time and before Jesus’ time have no relevance today.  Even Jews do not practice those today.  We should remember that Old Testament ideals were replaced by the New Testament ideals. 


The problem with Knanaya practice of endogamy is that we want to practice it at extreme levels as at the time of Old Testament.  That is why we insist to exclude our adopted children, our non-endogamous brethren, and our mixed children against the directives of the Church and current societal norms.  What we need is a willingness to adjust our endogamy practices to fit the New Testament and modern ideals.  We need to start a new tradition of endogamy based on inclusion instead of exclusion.


As usual, Joe’s new research theories would not help Kna community to end its practice of endogamy at extreme levels.  I hope Joe would do more research on Jesus and his teachings, instead of on Prophet Ezra and his teaching of racial intolerance.

 

Alex Kavumpurath



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The History of Endogamy

 

I have heard some comments from people that endogamy is something a bunch of Knanites cooked up for their convenience.  I get the feeling that, unfortunately, many more may harbor that ignorant notion. I would like to present my research on this topic that will give the readers a deeper understanding that the endogamy of Knanites has its origin in Jewish history.

Dr. Michael Satlow, famous Jewish historian and professor at Brown University, describes in great detail the practice of endogamy among ancient Jews in chapter 6 of his book "Jewish Marriages in Antiquity".

Dr. Satlow states that endogamy goes back to Biblical period. Marriages of Abram with Sarai, Isaac with Rebekkha, Jacob with Rachel and then Leah are good examples of the endogamy. Later Biblical writers like Deuteronomist endorsed endogamy while condemning exogamy.  The endogamous marriages continued in Judea all the way until 586 BCE when Assyrians invaded Judea, destroyed the temple and exiled a large number of Jews to Babylon.

While living in exile in Babylon, the Jews from Judea took a strict oath of endogamy because they believed that, to reach God's kingdom after judgment day "the chosen people of God should maintain purity not only ritually and morally, but also biologically" (Satlow-pg 141). This, my friends, was the religious and spiritual basis for endogamy!  

The exiled Jews in Babylon remained endogamous and anyone who mixed with Assyrians was removed from the community. Dr. Satlow writes in very touching details how the community performed last rituals and then placed the belongings of the ones who left the community at the main gate of their settlement in Babylon.  In 539 BCE, the Persian king Cyrus defeated the Assyrians and conquered Babylon. King Cyrus allowed the Jews to return to Judea to rebuild the temple and appointed Sheshbazzar, a Jew, as the governor of Judea. Under Zerubbabel, the next Jewish governor of Judea, some 50,000 people returned to Judea and the rest stayed back in Babylon. The temple was completed in 515BCE.

In 458 BCE Prophet Ezra, a descendant of Aaron the head priest, left Babylon to Judea accompanied by several thousand Jews. Prophet Ezra, a strong believer of the spiritual basis of endogamy, was shocked to see that some Jews left behind in Judea had intermarried from other ethnicity. He asserted that the intermarried people are not eligible to be part of the temple and enforced strict endogamy by maintaining genealogical records in the temple. Please note that it was to Prophet Ezra's tomb that the Knanaya forefathers went to pray and get a blessing before leaving Babylon to India. Dr. David Boer, in his book "The Early Church", calls these endogamous Jews as Hebrew Jews the exogamous Jews as Hellenist Jews

The strictly endogamous Hebrew Jews of Judea continued to be in power and in control of the temple until Herod was appointed as the governor and later the king of Judea by Romans. Herod's father Antiparter, hired as an officer by Roman military, was an Idumaean and mother was an Arab. Herod married a Jewish woman and had children from that Jewish wife. Historians say that Herod's intent in marrying a Jew was to legitimize his reign as the king of Judea and pass the kingdom of Judea to his descendants. Herod's appointment as the king of Judea and his subsequent actions, as a Roman agent, was not acceptable to Hebrew Jews. They resisted him and defied his authority over them. In his rage, Herod used military force to remove the genealogical records from the temple and burned them. He then imprisoned and killed most of the Hebrew Jewish high priests and replaced them with Hellenist Jews and then systematically dismantled the endogamous society of Hebrew Jews. Endogamy as a mainstream way of life ended with the loss of power of Hebrew Jewish high priests.

Now enters Jesus to the scene. Jesus belonged to the Tribe of Judah with his lineage traced back to Abraham, through David, Jacob and Isaac. All the generations from Abraham to David were fourteen generations, and from David to the Babylonian exile fourteen generations, and from the Babylonian exile to the Christ another fourteen generations.  (Please refer to Gospels of Matthew 1:1-17and Luke 3:23-38 to learn about the Genealogy of Jesus). Jesus even at an early age questioned the legitimacy and practices these Hellenist high priests. Jesus and all disciples of were Hebrew Jews according to Dr. Boer whom the Hellenist high priests considered as a challenge.

Dr. Robert Eisenman is a professor at California State University of Long Beach, an accomplished author, and an expert on early Judeo-Christians.  In his book "James the Brother of Jesus", he writes vividly about the resistance put up to Herod's orders by those among the Hebrew Jews who followed the Mosaic Law of righteousness (the Zealots). According to Dr. Eisenman the Hebrew word for Zealots is "Kanna'im". Dr. Eisenman writes, "The idea of pollution in the camp of Israel in the wilderness as related to mixing with foreigners has important ramifications in the Qumran document and is the focus of Zealot (Kanna'im) ethos" (pg 32). The endogamous Hebrew Jews who became the Zealots were called Kanna'im and they fought against the Roman rule and the Hellenist Jewish priest hierarchy.

 The 11th disciple of Jesus is the apostle called Simon Zelotes or Simon the Zealot. To distinguish him from Simon Peter, he is called Kananaios, or Kananites  (Matthew 10:4; Mark 3:18), and in the list of apostles in Luke 6:15, repeated in Acts 1:13, Zelotes, the "Zealot". Both titles derive from the Hebrew word qana, meaning The Zealous, though Jerome and others mistook the word to signify the apostle was from the town of Cana (in which case his epithet would have been "Kanaios") or even from the region of Canaan. As such, the translation of the word as "the Cananite" or "the Canaanite" is purely traditional and without contemporary extra-canonic parallel.

Dr. Robert Eisenman has pointed out contemporary Talmudic references to Zealots as Kanna'im "but not really as a group — rather as avenging priests in the Temple". (Eisenman's broader conclusion is that the zealot element in the original apostle group was disguised, erased and written over during later years by Roman historians to make it support the assimilative Pauline Christianity of the Gentiles.)  

The Kanna'im (Zealots) who became Christians was led by James the brother of Jesus who was the leader of the Jerusalem church. (The Roman Catholic Church officially considers James as the cousin of Jesus).  Dr. Boer writes, "The Hebrew Character of the Jerusalem church was so strong that on later occasion even Peter feared to eat with Gentile Christians in Antioch when brethren from Church in Jerusalem came to visit there (Gal. 2:11-14)" (pg 20).

In 66 AD, Saint James, the leader of Jerusalem church of Hebrew Christians, was killed by Romans and the Kanna'im moved east of the River Jordan into the Persian Empire to escape further persecution from Romans.

Rev. Dr. Kollaparambil writes in his book "Babylonian Origin of Southists" about a town called "Kynai" that is recorded in page 30 of the "Atlas of the Early Christian World" available in the Pontifical Oriental Institute at Rome. This town on the banks of River Tigris was a center of Christian activity in the ancient Persian Empire and was close in proximity to ancient towns like Ezra (where Prophet Ezra was buried) and Uraha (from where Mar Joseph left to accompany Thomas of Kannai). It is possible that this town got its name from the Kanna'im (zealots) settling down there after they left Jerusalem and Thomas of Kannai a descendant of the Kanna'im.

The map of Arabia in 600 AD (attached) shows where some of the displaced Jewish tribes lived after the fall of Jerusalem.  Tribe Kinanah (Banu Kinanah) lived south west of Arabian Peninsula at the Red Sea coast. It is also possible some of our forefathers came from this region.

We all know the fact that Knanaya community is built on the cornerstone of endogamy which was an important characteristic of  Kanna'im. In a speech to the Knanaya Association of Southern California,  Dr. Robert  Eisenman applauded our practice of endogamy stating that we have managed to maintain a bloodline what most other Hebrew Christians and Jews in the Middle-East has lost over the years.

Friends, endogamy has been under attack starting biblical times and is still under attack. Although, most of the young Knanaya generation may not identify with the spiritual and religious overtones of endogamy, there are several other advantages to endogamous marriages. In US, a country with 50% divorce rate, spurned by fierce individualism, endogamous marriages can bring in the much needed stability provided by extended family's support, close knit community, common religion, and core values.  I recommend the youth to read books written by Dr. Neal Clark Warren, a Psychologist and Family Therapist who recommends setting up the foundations of a new family on the above pillars.

 

 Jose Thomas Vadasserikunnel  



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Endogamy has ever been deemed as the "cornerstone" of the Knanaya community. So without it, there cannot 'knanaya!' This fact makes it imperative to expel those who are not in conformance with this practice, so that knanaya has its existence and growth.

If this practice of endogamy, combined with the expulsion of those who opt exogamy, is unacceptable, the only option is not to use anymore, the term 'knanaya' to the community, parishes or for the diocese! If a non-knanite member is adopted, the community ceases to be 'knanaya'. Thereafter, there is no relevance for the existence of a separate community as 'knanaya'! So, the community has to be dissolved with the common lot and should cease to exist.   

In any such instance, use of the name 'knanaya' to be totally avoided.

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I would thank J.Thomas for his patient narration of research undertaken on this topic (Endogamy), but the overarching conclusions he comes to tantamount to saying, I know that 2+2 = 4, so now I am good enough to be a NASA scientist!
 
The problems with the arugments raised are:
 
- The history and existence of Endogamy has never been disputed, but if endogamy is deemed the "cornerstone" of today's Knanaya community, it has already been proven that its presumed unimpaired continuation is but a figment of someone's overactive imagination. Also, this community today, in its collective hallucinatory state, shows no hesitation to expel those who are known not to be in conformance with this practice. Those who sit to judge, with unknown history (and unwilling to submit to or declare their promiscuous DNA), appear righteous by what is unknown and undeclared.
 
- Citing the Bible and the story of Jesus is like nominating Hamed Karzai to be Time Magazine's truth-teller of the year! Anyone who knows the stories behind the concoction and the lack of authenticity of the Gospels, would do better to seek more credible sources for referencing.
 
- Finally, "family's support, close-knit community, common religion and core values" are the very same rationale Taliban presents to its dissenting women and youth, and its enforcement through public execution and stoning to death. Neither can they stand "fierce individualism", for both Taliban and the pre-historic Knanaya doctrines - both borrowed and imagined - take inspiration from their common desert heritage where the unspoken word is their aversion to women asserting their "individualism".
 
The "fierce" in "individualism" is a misnomer, for what is "fierce" is not the trait of "individualism" per se, but the response to it. And, we all know that this is only an issue when it comes to women.
 
If the practice of endogamy is an antidote to divorce, then the Knanaya community should be the model for emotional dishonesty where good of the few is sacrificed for the good of the majority, and where women become the primary targets. Then I ask, why do these Knananites even bother to come to the shores of the North American continent which has never hidden the "individual" liberties it extols and epitomizes? Are you then endorsing the move by the ultra-orthodox Muslims imports seeking Sharia Law legislation in this part of the world as well? Has N. Clarke Warren ever dared to mention what is at the root of "fierce individualism"? And, do the so-called Biblical scholars who do not hesitate, even for a nano-second, to quote Jesus ever say that he, Jesus himself, was put to death for what they saw (in him) as "fierce" and non-conforming, anti-establishment individualism? Yet, we are told to emulate Jesus! Or, is he merely secondary to your endogamous agendas? 
 
Cyril Abraham
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The History of Endogamy

 

I have heard some comments from people that endogamy is something a bunch of Knanites cooked up for their convenience.  I get the feeling that, unfortunately, many more may harbor that ignorant notion. I would like to present my research on this topic that will give the readers a deeper understanding that the endogamy of Knanites has its origin in Jewish history.

Dr. Michael Satlow, famous Jewish historian and professor at Brown University, describes in great detail the practice of endogamy among ancient Jews in chapter 6 of his book "Jewish Marriages in Antiquity".

Dr. Satlow states that endogamy goes back to Biblical period. Marriages of Abram with Sarai, Isaac with Rebekkha, Jacob with Rachel and then Leah are good examples of the endogamy. Later Biblical writers like Deuteronomist endorsed endogamy while condemning exogamy.  The endogamous marriages continued in Judea all the way until 586 BCE when Assyrians invaded Judea, destroyed the temple and exiled a large number of Jews to Babylon.

While living in exile in Babylon, the Jews from Judea took a strict oath of endogamy because they believed that, to reach God's kingdom after judgment day "the chosen people of God should maintain purity not only ritually and morally, but also biologically" (Satlow-pg 141). This, my friends, was the religious and spiritual basis for endogamy!  

The exiled Jews in Babylon remained endogamous and anyone who mixed with Assyrians was removed from the community. Dr. Satlow writes in very touching details how the community performed last rituals and then placed the belongings of the ones who left the community at the main gate of their settlement in Babylon.  In 539 BCE, the Persian king Cyrus defeated the Assyrians and conquered Babylon. King Cyrus allowed the Jews to return to Judea to rebuild the temple and appointed Sheshbazzar, a Jew, as the governor of Judea. Under Zerubbabel, the next Jewish governor of Judea, some 50,000 people returned to Judea and the rest stayed back in Babylon. The temple was completed in 515BCE.

In 458 BCE Prophet Ezra, a descendant of Aaron the head priest, left Babylon to Judea accompanied by several thousand Jews. Prophet Ezra, a strong believer of the spiritual basis of endogamy, was shocked to see that some Jews left behind in Judea had intermarried from other ethnicity. He asserted that the intermarried people are not eligible to be part of the temple and enforced strict endogamy by maintaining genealogical records in the temple. Please note that it was to Prophet Ezra's tomb that the Knanaya forefathers went to pray and get a blessing before leaving Babylon to India. Dr. David Boer, in his book "The Early Church", calls these endogamous Jews as Hebrew Jews the exogamous Jews as Hellenist Jews

The strictly endogamous Hebrew Jews of Judea continued to be in power and in control of the temple until Herod was appointed as the governor and later the king of Judea by Romans. Herod's father Antiparter, hired as an officer by Roman military, was an Idumaean and mother was an Arab. Herod married a Jewish woman and had children from that Jewish wife. Historians say that Herod's intent in marrying a Jew was to legitimize his reign as the king of Judea and pass the kingdom of Judea to his descendants. Herod's appointment as the king of Judea and his subsequent actions, as a Roman agent, was not acceptable to Hebrew Jews. They resisted him and defied his authority over them. In his rage, Herod used military force to remove the genealogical records from the temple and burned them. He then imprisoned and killed most of the Hebrew Jewish high priests and replaced them with Hellenist Jews and then systematically dismantled the endogamous society of Hebrew Jews. Endogamy as a mainstream way of life ended with the loss of power of Hebrew Jewish high priests.

Now enters Jesus to the scene. Jesus belonged to the Tribe of Judah with his lineage traced back to Abraham, through David, Jacob and Isaac. All the generations from Abraham to David were fourteen generations, and from David to the Babylonian exile fourteen generations, and from the Babylonian exile to the Christ another fourteen generations.  (Please refer to Gospels of Matthew 1:1-17and Luke 3:23-38 to learn about the Genealogy of Jesus). Jesus even at an early age questioned the legitimacy and practices these Hellenist high priests. Jesus and all disciples of were Hebrew Jews according to Dr. Boer whom the Hellenist high priests considered as a challenge.

Dr. Robert Eisenman is a professor at California State University of Long Beach, an accomplished author, and an expert on early Judeo-Christians.  In his book "James the Brother of Jesus", he writes vividly about the resistance put up to Herod's orders by those among the Hebrew Jews who followed the Mosaic Law of righteousness (the Zealots). According to Dr. Eisenman the Hebrew word for Zealots is "Kanna'im". Dr. Eisenman writes, "The idea of pollution in the camp of Israel in the wilderness as related to mixing with foreigners has important ramifications in the Qumran document and is the focus of Zealot (Kanna'im) ethos" (pg 32). The endogamous Hebrew Jews who became the Zealots were called Kanna'im and they fought against the Roman rule and the Hellenist Jewish priest hierarchy.

 The 11th disciple of Jesus is the apostle called Simon Zelotes or Simon the Zealot. To distinguish him from Simon Peter, he is called Kananaios, or Kananites  (Matthew 10:4; Mark 3:18), and in the list of apostles in Luke 6:15, repeated in Acts 1:13, Zelotes, the "Zealot". Both titles derive from the Hebrew word qana, meaning The Zealous, though Jerome and others mistook the word to signify the apostle was from the town of Cana (in which case his epithet would have been "Kanaios") or even from the region of Canaan. As such, the translation of the word as "the Cananite" or "the Canaanite" is purely traditional and without contemporary extra-canonic parallel.

Dr. Robert Eisenman has pointed out contemporary Talmudic references to Zealots as Kanna'im "but not really as a group — rather as avenging priests in the Temple". (Eisenman's broader conclusion is that the zealot element in the original apostle group was disguised, erased and written over during later years by Roman historians to make it support the assimilative Pauline Christianity of the Gentiles.)  

The Kanna'im (Zealots) who became Christians was led by James the brother of Jesus who was the leader of the Jerusalem church. (The Roman Catholic Church officially considers James as the cousin of Jesus).  Dr. Boer writes, "The Hebrew Character of the Jerusalem church was so strong that on later occasion even Peter feared to eat with Gentile Christians in Antioch when brethren from Church in Jerusalem came to visit there (Gal. 2:11-14)" (pg 20).

In 66 AD, Saint James, the leader of Jerusalem church of Hebrew Christians, was killed by Romans and the Kanna'im moved east of the River Jordan into the Persian Empire to escape further persecution from Romans.

Rev. Dr. Kollaparambil writes in his book "Babylonian Origin of Southists" about a town called "Kynai" that is recorded in page 30 of the "Atlas of the Early Christian World" available in the Pontifical Oriental Institute at Rome. This town on the banks of River Tigris was a center of Christian activity in the ancient Persian Empire and was close in proximity to ancient towns like Ezra (where Prophet Ezra was buried) and Uraha (from where Mar Joseph left to accompany Thomas of Kannai). It is possible that this town got its name from the Kanna'im (zealots) settling down there after they left Jerusalem and Thomas of Kannai a descendant of the Kanna'im.

The map of Arabia in 600 AD (attached) shows where some of the displaced Jewish tribes lived after the fall of Jerusalem.  Tribe Kinanah (Banu Kinanah) lived south west of Arabian Peninsula at the Red Sea coast. It is also possible some of our forefathers came from this region.

We all know the fact that Knanaya community is built on the cornerstone of endogamy which was an important characteristic of  Kanna'im. In a speech to the Knanaya Association of Southern California,  Dr. Robert  Eisenman applauded our practice of endogamy stating that we have managed to maintain a bloodline what most other Hebrew Christians and Jews in the Middle-East has lost over the years.

Friends, endogamy has been under attack starting biblical times and is still under attack. Although, most of the young Knanaya generation may not identify with the spiritual and religious overtones of endogamy, there are several other advantages to endogamous marriages. In US, a country with 50% divorce rate, spurned by fierce individualism, endogamous marriages can bring in the much needed stability provided by extended family's support, close knit community, common religion, and core values.  I recommend the youth to read books written by Dr. Neal Clark Warren, a Psychologist and Family Therapist who recommends setting up the foundations of a new family on the above pillars.

 

 Jose Thomas Vadasserikunnel  



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Could you please explain why 'knanaya' cannot exist and grow without expulsion of those who marry from outside? 

Is it reasonable to consider expelling members from a community because they marry from outside a "social evil"? I believe so and don't feel very proud of promoting a "social evil" and a "factually incorrect"  claim as the corner stone of this community. Reforming social evils is an essential element for the growth of any community. 

Another argument often heard is the sacrifices made by ancestors for practising endogamy should be remembered. This phrase itself explains how wrong expelling our own brethren is. Social pressure has forced these ancestors to sacrifice their love. The important question to ask is was it right? 

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Please see what is ‘knanaya’ and its law. A knanite emerges only by birth.

 

Knanites, by tradition, are the endogamous descendants of Kinai Thoma or any member of his team who accompanied him to India. So to be a knanite, one has to be born out of an endogamous relation. Usually endogamy alone will produce descendants who are endogamous/ knannites. It is by following the tradition of endogamy that ‘knanaya’ tries to produce endogamous descendants for its growth and existence. One who goes exogamous cannot produce knanites out of it. So, 'knanaya' cannot exist and grow without expulsion of those who marry from outside. 

 

Though a knanite remains to be knanite in spite of his marrying a non-knanite, as per the knanaya tradition, he will not be treated as a part of that Community from the moment he marries a non-knanite! His spouse and children can never become a knanite. Knanaya law is nothing other than its tradition of endogamy combined with the exclusion of those who opt exogamy

 

So as per the law of knanaya, ‘expulsion’ of those who break the fundamentals of knanaya, is not a social evil! 

 

If a knanite thinks that ‘expulsion’ is a social evil, what he has to do is to work against the existence/ maintenance of the knanaya community and not for ‘inclusion’ of the exogamists! He should also work for amalgamation the knanaya parishes and dioceses. No body should be allowed to use the name ‘knanaya’ because it loses its meaning after ‘inclusion’ of a ‘KANA’ family. He could also marry and go out of it. His children also could be prompted to do so!

 

Philip Nedumchira



 

 



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Endogamy is a social practice within the community. It is not a law, there is a difference between a law and a social practice. And even if one hypothesize such a law, humans progress by ammending laws that doesn't make sense. Social evils are defined by the sensibility and intellectual abilities of the time and are not to be judged by the same practice.

And if one identifies a social evil within a community, the positive thing is to eradicate the social evil and not the community. eg; widow remarriage, chiild marriage and sati were abolished as social evils but the cultures that practiced these are very much alive without them.   

Stating that endogamy is the only thing that holds the community is a gross under statement. And claiming that without endogamy everything will fall apart is just being fearful and is a justification for maintaining status-quo. If that was the case there wouldn't be non endogamous communities in the world which is not the case.
In fact the only other strictly endogamous community that I know is AMISH and these guys are really backward, they don't even  use electricity and travel in horse carriages in the middle of the USA. They claim to keep the purity of the german blood. And I have met a couple of them with dark hair and distinct native american features. The only thing that keeps them ticking is that they have an average of 10 kids per family and they live together in a few counties in america. 
We are not any different from AMISH with the native american features. I would be surprised if any member of this community who travelled/lived abroad was mistaken for a syrian or palestinian. It is because we don't look like one and we can be easily placed as keralites/south indians just by our looks. This is no wonder because we have dravidian blood in us (I presume) after all the strict endogamous history. And in strict sense the endogamous knanaya is possibly dead already and is a thing of past. 

We as a community has our own distinct culture, cuisine and other practices. We could work on improving good stuff that we have and work on mitigating the bad practices.  Our culture will only flourish and spread out if we open up and grow.

Qoute by sidhu
"Mind is like a parachute, don't work if it doesn't open up"

saiju
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