Re: Fwd: Plural forms for Kazakh

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Тимур Тимирханов

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Dec 23, 2021, 7:00:37 AM12/23/21
to Bruno Haible, kk...@googlegroups.com, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov

Hi, Bruno and Baurzhan,

 

I believe that CLDR data is incorrect because it's so difficult to propose a correct variant to it.

The fact is proved by Kazakh grammar in English which is available at https://slaviccenters.duke.edu/sites/slaviccenters.duke.edu/files/file-attachments/kazakh-grammar.pdf 

Section 3.3.1 states that "Entities that are qualified by cardinal numbers do not take plural endings, rather, they are left in the singular form."

Which's why I consider rule "nplurals=1; plural=0;" to be correct.

 

 

  



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From: Bruno Haible <br...@clisp.org>
Date: Wed, Dec 22, 2021, 21:52
Subject: Plural forms for Kazakh
To: <kk...@googlegroups.com >, <baurth...@gmail.com>


Hi, dear Kazakh translators,

I am the GNU gettext maintainer, and I would like to support correct plural
forms also for Kazakh in the GNU gettext tools, out of the box, and improve
the GNU gettext documentation.

You certainly know about the "plural forms", as documented here:
https://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/html_node/Plural-forms.html

I have gotten different data about Kazakh, thus my question.

* The page https://l10n.gnome.org/teams/kk/ suggests the formula
  nplurals=1; plural=0;

* But CLDR suggests the formula
  nplurals=2; plural=(n > 1);

Which one is correct? That is, in sentences with plurals,
or does a sentence with the number 2, 3, 4, ... always look like the sentence
with the number 1 ?

If you are not sure: There are certainly books about the grammar of
your language, that describe this detail.

Best regards,

                       Bruno



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