Softwares needed in any Linux OS
manaankit
We have been listening to Karunya Linux OS development . We
have been postponding this since last year. But now we have decide to
finish it up for trial. But in order to that, I wanna know what are
the common softwares you people expect to be present in that to
fulfill the need of all department students.
Please Tell your expectations and if possible link to that
particular software website.
Thanking you
ankit anand
paulson
plz include ns2 network simulator ...
paulson
already late.v shuld hav one stable linux.i would like to participate
in the karunya linux os as a developer?how shuld i proceed.
>
> We have been listening to Karunya Linux OS development . We
> have been postponding this since last year. But now we have decide to
Johnny Jacob
> Friends ,
>
> We have been listening to Karunya Linux OS development . We
> have been postponding this since last year. But now we have decide to
> finish it up for trial. But in order to that, I wanna know what are
> the common softwares you people expect to be present in that to
> fulfill the need of all department students.
Base distro used here ?
paul s
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with regards,
paul
manaankit
regarding that. Do you have any other thing in your mind?
Thanking You
ankit anand
kish
a system that runs out of the box without any
additional plug ins(problems with licensing could be resolved)
As most would be beginners an excellent
documentation and tutorial would do a world of difference.
Support for most of the programming languages and their
extensions would be great to have.
The classic industrial themes that is found by default
will sometimes be unattractive to many
Try to build it in a such a way that is easy to use with great
responsiveness(could tweak the kernel a bit for this)
Have different Desktop environments ranging from eye candy
ones to simple boxes(useful if there is very limited graphics onboard)
Support for bluetooth and phone interfaces
Allow provisions to develop/extend the system (libraries, source,
tools and such)
Though most of this is too soon for an early release having lot of people
collaborate would be great.
Since most systems would run in a networked environ, having
pen testing tools would be a great advantage.
File transfer could be integrated with little help from wine.
You could pull most of the good stuff from existing systems.
I may have missed some, but go wild with features that works best for you.
A few systems that come closer
Sabayon
OpenSuSE
PHLAK
LinuxMint
Debian
Gentoo
Fedora
BackTrack
DNALinux
NimbleX(for obvious reasons)
(No preferences)
www.sabayonlinux.org/
sourceforge.net/projects/phlakproject/
openSUSE.org
www.linuxmint-art.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arch_Linux
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NimbleX
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Linux_distributions
kish
> Base distro used here ?
ankit anand?
paul s
Johnny Jacob
i would suggest to use ubuntu 8.04.1 LTS as the base system. We can easily develop a modified linux version using reconstructor in ubuntu/debian.itz a small package
Nice place to start.
Just curious , For any project you need a vision and purpose. :)
What is this linux distro going to achive ?
Is this just branding a existing distro as a 'karunya' linux ?
Or ... you are going to host a local repo for a particular distro with packages that can be used for academics (engineering / scientific applications ... ) ?
Also would be nice to have a wiki page jotting down all these (visions .. goals .. ) so people wont get distracted ..
Congrats on starting this ! awesome !
:)
--On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:09 PM, kish <kishorekumar.mm@gmail.com> wrote:
JJ
> Base distro used here ?
ankit anand?
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paul
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Joe Steeve
> Just curious , For any project you need a vision and purpose. :)
>
> What is this linux distro going to achive ? Is this just
> branding a existing distro as a 'karunya' linux ? Or ... you
> are going to host a local repo for a particular distro with
> packages that can be used for academics (engineering /
> scientific applications ... ) ?
I was going to ask the same thing. Anywayz, there are so many
distros around already. Why bring in another one? unless it solves
a specific problem which is not solved already.
Building a distribution requires tremendous amount of work (unless
you are just going to be modifying themes). It requires quite a
bit of technical manpower. If every university/college/school
decides to build their own distribution, then there would be a lot
of work that is being done to do things that already exist. A 100
different _incomplete_ distributions are not going to help the
Free Software community in anyway. Nor is it going to help the
people involved in it. In My Humble Opinion, it is a waste of
time and resources.
Since you guys are interested in distro development, My Humble
Suggestion would be to join an existing distro development team
and help them make it better. We already have well established
distributions like Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora etc. Choose one out of
it for which you have a lot of takers in the college. Assemble a
team of developers and enthusiasts (call it team-karunya??) This
team can work with the distro maintainers to make their
distribution better. Say for example, you pick Ubuntu. You can
look at ways how you can make ubuntu better. It could be either
artistic themes, or documentation, or fixing the bugs in the
software that comes with ubuntu etc. With committed involvement,
your team will not only help the community but also will earn a
name in the entire industry. This exercise would give you the
opportunity to interact with the world community and gain a lot
more.
There is a lot of work that is required to make Free Software
better. Making another distribution definitely is not one of it.
I apologize if I sounded rude/discouraging in anyway. My intent is
not to discourage you. My intent is to see that the work that you
guys do benefits somebody and does not go wasted.
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ooo http://www.joesteeve.org/
Johnny Jacob
kish
>> What is this linux distro going to achive ?
Well for starters let s say this could create an overwhelming awareness
among the students and inspire them to do more than just learn stuff.
A good deal of publicity would be great for the club/group
Peer pressure or simple envy could work a magic.
Mission Statement
To spread the knowledge of Open Source Software and to promote the
usage of Linux operating system among the students of Karunya
University.
http://karunya.edu/linuxclub/
joe:
>>It requires quite a
>> bit of technical manpower.
Exactly the needed push to evolve
don't you agree?
>> Suggestion would be to join an existing distro development team
>> and help them make it better.
+1
Eventually
>>Choose one out of
>> it for which you have a lot of takers in the college.
Why cant it be KLOS?
>> Assemble a
>> team of developers and enthusiasts (call it team-karunya??)
+1
I hope this project surely does that
>> will earn a
>> name in the entire industry.
>>Free Software
>> better.
If it s done really good wouldn't it be appreciated and earn the
aforementioned by default?
>>to see that the work that you
>> guys do benefits somebody and does not go wasted.
hmm.. developers?
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Johnny Jacob
Well for starters let s say this could create an overwhelming awareness
among the students and inspire them to do more than just learn stuff.
A good deal of publicity would be great for the club/group
Peer pressure or simple envy could work a magic.
Mission Statement
To spread the knowledge of Open Source Software and to promote the
usage of Linux operating system among the students of Karunya
University.
http://karunya.edu/linuxclub/
Ah. Sounds familiar. I guess we put that in :) All the best. Would be nice if you guyz can post progress here.
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Joe Steeve
>>> What is this linux distro going to achive ?
>
> Well for starters let s say this could create an overwhelming
> awareness among the students and inspire them to do more than
> just learn stuff.
What is the technical objective for this 'linux' based
distribution?
Joe Steeve
>>> Choose one out of it for which you have a lot of takers in the
>>> college.
>
> Why cant it be KLOS?
Please have a look at http://distrowatch.com/, at the sheer number
of 'Linux' based distributions that are floating around
already. Creating yet another 'linux' based distribution would be
duplication of effort that has already been done. What the
community really needs today is not another distribution. But
rather better maintenance and support for existing distributions.
There are so many bugs/features that need to be fixed/provided
even in established Free Software projects. If karunya can
assemble a team to support/maintain such projects, then it would
set an example for other institutions in the country to follow.
>>> will earn a name in the entire industry. Free Software better.
>
> If it s done really good wouldn't it be appreciated and earn the
> aforementioned by default?
Yes, if you really create a distribution which includes 23000+
packages, with extensive documentation, user support channels
(IRC, mailing lists, wiki pages), ample mirrors, frequent and
established release cycles, long-term support mechanism/guarantee,
etc.
I again stress that you guys dont take me in the wrong sense. My
intention is not to discourage or undermine capability. My
intention is to make your effort fruitful to the community at
large.