Jim Wall Case

[Denis]

Hey has anyone been watching this case I am sure many of you have, , well I
think its funny that the crown lost the frensic evedenice, and there crown
wintness is a big fat lyer, that said he lied to just get a deal with the
cops, now he has finished that sentenced, what the cops are going back on
there deal they made with him, not likely, so the question is did Jim Wall
kill Jutta Weber, hmm I wonder, Jim Wall still states he had nothing to with
it, and yet this other guy seems to know what and where it all happened.
This guy said that the body was "bloody" , and I am sure they said something
like the body was cut up where, in the apartment, funny how there was no
blood in this apartment, and the only evidence just disappears, Wow, thats
not surprizing, here they have a guy that says he is no guilty, and they
have a guy they'd made a deal with, but they can do nothing ......

I'd like to hear more from other people about this... its got me
wondering................?????

[Mark Thompson]

I share your opinion Denis.

It seems all too suspicious that the crown's key "witness" with the
background that he has, supposedly just "went along for the ride". What
better way to get free of prosecution then to strike a deal with the police
claiming that he only "knew" by who and where Jutta Weber's murder was
committed. Just because someone swears to tell the whole truth and nothing
but the truth doesn't mean he still can't be lying.

I hate to say it but I think the police should have included some "fine
print" on that contract their witness signed.

Hmmmm..... frame up perhaps?

I cringe to think that it may be the wrong man that gets convicted and a
murderer goes free.....

"Denis" <dste...@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
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[GG]

Did you guys also forget that Wall is a convicted murderer.? Hell I think I read
he did 10 years. Now I 'm not saying I believe eveything his buddy is saying.
Maybe he helped wall with the murder? But still think he ( wall ) did it.

Mark Thompson wrote:

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[Mark Thompson]

I hadn't known about Wall's previous conviction. It does sway my opinion a
bit.

"GG" <gord.k...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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[Derek MacPhail]

What about the testimony from the woman that Wall was pursuing just after
Jutta's disappearance? Do you think she got spooked and started taking
notes for no reason?

IMO, he's guilty. As for the star witness, I'm sure he'll be seeing the
inside of a jail soon enough. He may be a crook and a liar, but I don't
recall murder being on his rap sheet.

Just my $0.02 worth.

Cheers, Derek

"Mark Thompson" <m_...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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[Darcy]

On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Derek MacPhail wrote:

> What about the testimony from the woman that Wall was pursuing just after
> Jutta's disappearance? Do you think she got spooked and started taking
> notes for no reason?

She said that she was spooked. He was visiting her in the hospital not
days after Jutta's disappearance and was giving her jewlery and flowers
and the like. She said that he never spoke about Jutta, and that he didn't
seem worried that she was gone. This is was worried her.

> IMO, he's guilty. As for the star witness, I'm sure he'll be seeing the
> inside of a jail soon enough. He may be a crook and a liar, but I don't
> recall murder being on his rap sheet.

The murder information was suppressed from the jury because it may have
altered their opinion and judgement of him.

darcy

[Darcy]

On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Mark Thompson wrote:

> I hadn't known about Wall's previous conviction. It does sway my opinion a
> bit.

maybe that is why the jury wasn't allowed to hear about it. It does sway
opinions.

darcy

[Mark Thompson]

I can understand why they would omit the murder charge from Wall's past, but
at the same time there seems to be very little evidence and a lot of
personal opinions. The jury should have been made aware of Wall's past.
Repeat offences take place more and more.

"Darcy" <ben...@no.spam.please> wrote in message
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[Derek MacPhail]

I think the reason why the jury wasn't informed about his past was because
of that new law that makes it mandatory a person convicted of murder a
second time to spend a minimum of 25 years behind bars before seeking parole
under the "faint hope" clause (or something to that affect).

What really boggles my mind is that some poor woman married him and now has
a child by him? What was she thinking?! I guess the obvious answer is that
she wasn't. lol I wonder where my tax dollars are going. <pure sarcasm>

Cheers, Derek

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[Bubba]

the faint hope clause kicks in at 15 years
FYI

"Derek MacPhail" <macp...@kingston.net> wrote in message
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[Miker]

also the jury cant hear of anything he was convicted for/happened in the
past

"Derek MacPhail" <macp...@kingston.net> wrote in message
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[GG]

your right he probally will see the inside of a jail sooner than later. But you
saying that murder wasn't on his rap sheet is going to far. Yes he is a crook
and liar But also a rapist. The chargers were dropped so he would testify
against wall.

[Derek MacPhail]

No faint hope clause for repeat murderers. 'Bout time!

Cheers, Derek

"Bubba" <iamno...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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[Derek MacPhail]

No amount of jail time, in my opinion, is long enough for sexual predators.
Castration, whether physical or chemical, would be a start though. I wasn't
aware that a rape charge against him was dropped, but unfortunately,
witnesses don't cooperate just to clear their conscience. Having the charge
dropped altogether sucks, plain and simple. The up side is that people got
to see what he looks like in the paper and on tv......

Cheers, Derek

"GG" <gord.k...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message

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[Emma Chase VanCott]

Miker <probi...@cogeco.ca> wrote:
: also the jury cant hear of anything he was convicted for/happened in the
: past

.........until sentencing.

ECV

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[gnig...@gmail.com]

You can’t convince me Jim Wall was framed. He and Utta were on again off again and he had been abusive. He lived in her place, had keys and never reported her missing. I was there at the property when cops finally had probable cause to seach the apartment. They were hauling out chunks of carpet and big cut out sections of drywall. That is not done for fun. I also was aware that the bathroom was spotlessly cleaned ceiling to floor with bleach. Hmmm, she was chopped up and bagged, and was found that way near Jones Falls. Why did Wall call his buddy for help? He did not have a car at the time. He was supposed to be driving cab on occasion, but would be smart enough take a taxi cab out that far, clearly pointing a finger at strange behaviour. That child rapist who helped Wall only confessed because he was caught by cops and trying to deal, but he was complicit with Wall. They are both criminals, but be assured that Wall is a murderer of more than one person. No doubts. The people who saw Utta’s bruises know the kind of guy he is.

[fpcla...@gmail.com]

Jim Wall committed the murder of Jutta Weber, because in March of 1983 he helped another individual commit a murder in Ottawa, ON. He received a life sentence with a 10 year eligibility and was out of prison in 8 years.