Roland Sonar

[Alexandrin Chaples]

isuspect that any importing of sound would have to be from roland expansion cards of one sort or another, but i don't think it even does that. I do know there was a tdw or tdrw-10 or somesuch, that was either a more fully featured td10 or an expansion board you could buy.

However it is my understanding that the "VOICES" (An I hope I am useing the correct terminology) can be changed and replaced via midi, however this feature i can not either get my head around or comprihend from the manual

they are probably just refering to the internal voices that can be changed via midi. a sysex editor on your computer can change which internal waves to use for a voice and which envelope settings etc.

cykomike, the TD-10 is actually called a brain and the pads you play would be the controllers(since you use them to control the brain) more than likely you are wanting to swap the internal sounds for other sounds.

the only way this is possible is if you find a sysex dump of sounds somewhere that was made specifically for your model brain (in this case, the td-10) and then you would load that midi(sysex) data into a seq and play it (load it) into your td10.

i didn't say you said it was a sampler, i said that's what you're looking for...because it is...you've gone and got something and it doesn't function as you would like it to..because it's not meant to, but a sampler would, retard.

you're the one who's confused. The fact that you refuse to admit you were confused to begin with just precludes you getting anything from whatever i choose to say. SO i might as well us whatever language i want because it's all latin to you.

I don't know of any way in which the TD10 could accept a wav file directly, or any (convoluting?) software that I assume could analyse a wav file and convert it to a format that the TD10 could recognise to replicate sample. I doubt even Roland have modelled the V-Drums using this method (but would be pleased to be proved otherwise!).

The other thing you may have heard was the PC running a sequencer program (Cubase or Sonar etc). This may have been playing the other sounds. One one could then play along with on this on the TD10 kit and trigger further samples in the PC (or whatever) as well as sounds from the TD10 box. You can buy midi files which trigger the various samples and synths for use in a sequencer program.

A lot of the posts here seem to have assumed that you can't send audio data (ie, samples) via MIDI Sysex. You can. I own a rack unit (Gibson Echoplex Digital Pro) that can import/export it's captured samples as sysex.

yeah, i think a friend of mine used to have a older rackmount unit (peavey SP?, i think)..which was able to do something similar and it was a MIDI data...but i've never, in 14 years, gone at it that way.

i think there are exceptions, but I use as a general rule of thumb that MIDI doesn't do audio...and i would guess (again, just my guess) that what you'd be doing was converting the audio file into data and then sending it to be synthesized by the unit.

it just seems to me that you could do a similar thing with, say, some kind og synth or rompler..you could send roland or korg or whomever a file and they could probably convert it and figure out some way to get the synth or whatever to produce it..but i mean, if you want a sampler, buy a sampler--it will always do the job better.

My dad has a Roland VS 1880 that he wants to connect to the pc so he can edit his tracks with a few more effect options. The problem is he does not really know what he is doing, he has bought reaper and a midi to usb lead.

What leads and software will he need to connect to the pc and transfer his projects over to reaper and is it possible to just copy the project onto a disk and transfer it that way.

I must add neither of us really know what we are doing and his roland user manual is very battered after being used every day for the last 5 years so i would apreciate any information to be offered in laymans terms.

I don't think the Roland "all in one" recorders like your VS1800 can save the audio files you create as .wav files.

Which is what you would want to import into Reaper.

Roland uses their own "song" file format and it will only playback or export on those machines. And there isn't any audio USB transfer feature....

I think one way would be to take your master stereo tracks from a CD you make on the VS and use an audio conversion program to convert the .cda files to .wav files and then import the .wav files into Reaper, Cubase or Cakewalk...or....

You could playback your tracks in realtime and run the VS outputs into a separate audio interface (USB or Firewire) and get it into your PC/Reaper that way.

If you go with buying an interface then you could still use the VS as a 18 channel mixer and record the 8 outputs straight into the PC/Reaper through the interface.

BTW the manual is available in PDF format for the VS1800 in the Roland legacy section of support manuals!

I had a vs2440 for a while, and this is why I stopped using it. iirc, Roland uses a proprietary format for the data, so even if you use the built in backup function to connect directly to computer via USB (mine had a USB output and a backup function built in, not sure about the 1800), you can't just import the files. There might be a utility to convert them to standard wav files, or you might have to edit the file headers manually which is a pain. Failing that, real time export (i.e. playing back one file at a time and re-recording in your DAW) is the only way I know. Slow and annoying, plus it adds additional layers of A/D conversion into the process, which may or may not be a big deal to you.

Just bought a Roland VS 1880 and learning from this thread. I'm impressed with it so far as I had a POD UX2 only to find there wasn't a driver for Windows 7. It seems to have a very large hard drive and be sure and designate 44.1K sampling rate (if you want to put it on the SCSI CDRW) when you are initializing a new song. If it isn't at that sampling rate forget about burning one. We are happy with our VS-1880.

We've got one song at the 48K sampling rate and I believe the only way we'll get it off is to purchase a jukebox program (for my computer) and capture the sound in two channels (which is the same quality as burning a cd but slightly more hassle) through either the Master outputs or Monitor outputs. But it will work great that way and it's one way to fix the problem of recording a song at the 48K or any different sampling rate other than 44.1K.

Knowledge of lever arm distances from sonars, mounted on vessels, to systems such as Inertial Measurement Units (IMUs) and Global Navigation Satellite Systems (GNSS) is crucial for accurate ocean mapping applications. Traditional methods, such as laser scanners or total stations, are used to determine professional survey vessel lever arm distances reliably. However, for vessels of opportunity that are collecting volunteer bathymetric data, it is beneficial to consider survey methods that are less time consuming, less expensive, and which do not involve bringing the vessel into a dry dock. With the development of Unmanned Aircraft Systems (UASs) in the field of mapping, more cost-effective and quicker surveys can be conducted. To investigate the feasibility of conducting accurate horizontal lever arm surveys of vessels, while maximizing time efficiency in data collection, UAS surveys of a vessel with calibrated lever arm distances were conducted using both Structure for Motion (SfM) photogrammetry and aerial LiDAR while the vessel was docked at the pier. Estimates of the horizontal uncertainties, for both methods, were obtained by comparing the horizontal distances between targets acquired by the UAS methods to ground-truth measurements of lever distances from survey-grade laser scanning of the vessel. With the use of Ground Control Points (GCPs), horizontal uncertainties of both the photogrammetry and LiDAR models are on the order of centimeters, with the LiDAR model being slightly higher in horizontal uncertainty than most of the photogrammetry models.

Standard calibration procedures for multibeam sonars currently only address the fidelity of the bathymetric data. Equivalent effort is needed to ensure that the acquired seabed backscatter strength measurements are referenced to a similarly precise level. This project presents an operational method utilizing multiple pre-calibrated split beam echo sounders covering a wide range (50-400 kHz) of frequencies. This is needed to cover the full range of frequencies utilized by multi-sector multibeams operating in continental shelf depths.

Roland Arsenult joined CCOM/JHC in 2000. He received his Bachelor's degree in Computer Science and worked as a research assistant with the Human Computer Interaction Lab at the Department of Computer Science, University of New Brunswick. As a member of the Data Visualisation Research Lab, he combines his expertise with interactive 3D graphics with his experience working with various mapping related technologies to help provide a unique perspective on some of the challenges undertaken at CCOM/JHC.

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