Peugeot Workshop Singapore

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Agreeshould be O2 sensors. Especially when he noticed that the ambient environment (affects O2 concentration) affects the symptoms. The problem now is which one. Different cars have different O2 sensors numbers, layout and feedback loop.

I will have access to a Peugeot Diagnostic scanner sometime end July/early Aug 2018 for a short time. If your pug has an engine light, air bag light, etc that always stay on, this tool can help diagnose. No charge, no fees, no liabilities, no guarantees. This is pure reading and/or clearing/reset of the codes if you like. It does not do any repair for example it can tell if O2 sensor is faulty but that's it. You will have to look for your own workshop to repair any faults found.

Trust me, dont buy 3008 or 5008, when you test drive turn on the aircon to no. 3 (max. 8), you will trun crazy and never have chance to listen to the in car radio . My experience is , 6 times in workshop within 2 months

Driving my 308cc for 9 months and spent 5K for repairs. Millage is over 110K. It was a used one. I thought my ex Alfa Romeo was bad, Peugeot is not better . But at least Alfa is fun to drive and there is a workshop that is good in troubleshoot. Been to the 2 Peugeot "specialist" workshops, not impress by them. Change this change that , trial and error all under my cost to rectify a fault.

I have also gone thru the same experience with some owners here in the past. Surprised to see they are still facing the same issues after so many years. And yes it happened during when the car is new.

One of the many issues like the aircon blower fan. It will lose control and go at full speed. I'm talking about models that are 10 years ago during my ownership. It's not as simple as a fuse issue. The electronics and electrical issues are the most staggering. Defective electrical components especially. Changed under warranty still defective. I think it has to do with their 3rd party suppliers from France. It's horribly made with no QC.

Now I look at their new models(such as the 3008) I dont deny and say I'm not tempted but when I looked at the dash with the full digital display and airconditioning controlled by the digital center console or infotainment console... I sianz half. I have no faith in their electronics. I even Googled for issues regarding the 3008 on long term test. This caught my eye. -peugeot-3008-long-term-review/

It's a lengthy read. Issues with the infotainment unit. Another turnoff is the fuse layout diagram. It's not printed underneath the fusebox cover like most car. It's found on their website and the car journalist got an error message when he tried to load the link. LoL...He ended up disconnecting the battery terminals as a last resort.

As much as the car journalist would like to praise the 3008. For past owners like me to read that such car still have such issues. It's a major turnoff. As much as ppl like to say it's hearsay or fabricated stories or just plain unlucky. I can assure you it is not.

When people say Jap cars are built for reliability, believe them. Sure, they may not always look the sexiest, in fact most Jap cars look like how people in their society procreate; mechanical and functional.

I was foolish enough to own a used Peugeot 308 until recently, attracted by its looks and price. Unfortunately, I did not take the hint either when the used car shark agreed to my few thousands off his sticker price.

To be fair, I did not own the car long enough (3 years) to experience more of the Pug issues many of its owners highlight. It was very comfortable to drive (to me) and I drove it up to KL many times (excluding the more regular trips to JB and nearer destinations). The furthest was to Penang and back in two days, maintaining 130kmh with the cruise control. And the good thing was , even the malaysian abang car thieves didn't want to bother stealing a Pug; I once parked it for 5 days at the KLIA long-term parking, the only SG plate car there and returned to find it untouched (Try that with your Honda or Toyota).

What did I hate? Upon receiving ownership of the car, I was forced to spend $500 because the air-con relay (or something like that) was damaged and I had been looking like a fool sweating it out for the first few days before finally taking it to a specialist workshop. $500 for a small piece of plastic? The workshop's reply was "These kind of cars, you should expect this type of pricing", and that mantra followed throughout my ownership of the car. As it was, I had never come across a failure of this 'relay' in other cars, especially since the car was only 2 years old at that time. In any case, almost every part / item linked to the brand was comparatively more expensive than a Jap / Korean car.

I did not find the rationale often given by workshops and even the parts importer reasonable; "Peugeot is a 'conti' car". Well if its a Merc or BMW, fine. But Peugeot is a bread and butter, budget, low-at most mid range brand European make.

Being budget conscious, for minor or regular servicing like oil change, I usually bought the parts from the parts importer (not agent) and had them changed at a normal (not the specialist) workshop. There came problem 2. In the initial phase of ownership, I had difficulty finding a workshop near my area which was willing to even do oil /spark plug change even though I had the oil filter and plugs with me (obviously the workshop did not have these on hand). Their reason for turning me away? One uncle who was changing the oil of a Honda stepped out, saw my car and said, "Sorry this brand I cannot do". Another time, my first flat tyre with this car, I called a nearby tyre shop and asked for a tow and possibly replace the tyre. When I was asked what model, and replied, the guy said, "Sorry Peugeot we don't handle because the wheel need special tool. You go back to the agent". Special tool? Apparently workshops in JB (which I went to later on) did not need any special tools. Cannot change oil? Just use the vacuum pump to suck out the oil and fill it back like any other car? So, those were the issues I faced initially. Of course, there were local workshops which could handle the car, and it took me a while to find them. It's just that you can't go to any random workshop to get things fixed or done as you could with a more common brand. And having read the terrible service by the agent and ridiculous prices for servicing, I never stepped there at all.

At the 5th year mark of the car's COE, wear and tear started to show up. E.g. terrible cold rattling of the EP6 engine (which was actually present since the day I bought the car), the moon roof fabric starting to peel off, but my biggest fear was the engine. It seemed that some say the rattling could lead to very expensive repairs, but some said it was normal. And thankfully, I did not have to encounter the electronics going haywire and christmas trees lighting up, which some owners experience. In the end though, I decided to end my Peugeot adventure shortly after that.

Would I buy another Peugeot? No. Ultimately, for the middle class like myself, money matters and the potential of having to spend a lot, makes owning this car not a practical option. Sure, there are lemons for every brand, but there must be a reason why sgcarmart and carousell has so many Altises etc with extended COEs and hardly or no Peugeots / Alfas / Citroens.

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