a straw poll (or an official vote if you are so moved)

[Randall Holmes]

I'd like to take a straw poll (or ideally have an actual vote) on the issue of Proposal 1 versus Proposal 1b

--noting that a survey of the dictionary done by Peter Hill reveals that all the work for

Proposal 1 was apparently done in 1994, which strongly suggests

that my Proposal 1 was the actual intent.

Proposal 1 is to preserve the 1994 ruling which vacated the slinkui test

and required that CVC djifoa initial in a complex which form an initial pair

with the following djifoa be y-hyphenated but qualify it by saying that

it does not apply to CVCCVV or CVCCCV forms, and that CCVV

borrowings remain forbidden.

Proposal 1b is to reverse the 1994 ruling and restore the slinkui test.

1.  You can cast a vote for either proposal.  Emerson has voted for Proposal 1

already.  I suppose you could also officially abstain.

2.  You can indicate that you are inclined toward one or the other or still completely undecided.

If we ratify Proposal 1, we have no work to do at all (the dictionary is in compliance).  The state of the dictionary strongly suggests that Proposal 1 was the actual intent of the 1994 ruling.  If we ratify Proposal 1b, we have some slinkuis to fix

(not introduced since 1991, they are mistakes by our Founder).

The PEG parser is currently Proposal 1 compliant, but it would not be difficult to make it Proposal 1b compliant.

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I cast an official vote for Proposal 1.

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Sincerely, Randall Holmes

Any opinions expressed above are not the
official opinions of any person or institution.

[John Cowan]

Randall Holmes scripsit:

> 1. You can cast a vote for either proposal. Emerson has voted for
> Proposal 1 already. I suppose you could also officially abstain.

I'm okay with Proposal 1.

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followed them. --"The Passing of the Grey Company"

[Randall Holmes]

Proposal 1 (cleaning up the 1994 Keugru ruling) and Proposal 9 (no unmarked vocatives) now both enjoy majorities, but my view is that we don't officially pass anything until everyone has cast a vote.  We await comments or votes from Cyril and selpa'i.

I also await a cleaned up merged Proposal 4/7 from John, which I will call Proposal 7 and slot into place on the list.

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[Cyril Slobin]

Oops! Have I sent this to Randall only? Resending to keugru list. Sorry, I have not yet used with the new gmal interface.

> Proposal 1 (cleaning up the 1994 Keugru ruling) and Proposal 9 (no unmarked vocatives)

> both enjoy majorities, but my view is that we don't officially pass anything until everyone has
> cast a vote.  We await comments or votes from Cyril and selpa'i.

I am for Proposal 9 (no unmarked vocatives). I am always trying to use an explicit "Hoi" in my real Loglan usage, so I think this is a good thing. I think selpa'i have also agreed, so we have a consensus here.

I am abstaining on proposal 1 (which,  think, wins by majority anyway). I am not inclined to give any deciding voice before building a working morphology tool by myself (like my lojban.vim several years ago), and I don't feel brave enough to begin my work on such a tool now. :-(

In Soviet Russia, beard cut you!
Cyril Slobin, http://slobin.ru

[Randall Holmes]

With Cyril's vote, I can report that Proposal 1 has passed (not overwhelmingly, but as it involves no work at all and it is crucially important to resolve the error in the 1994 ruling, Im going with it)

and Proposal 9 has passed unanimously.

I'm going to put a link to the List of Proposals on my web page.  Notice that it is now date and time stamped at the top.