Malwarebytes Portable Windows Xp
Keena Wiegert
A few weeks ago, update KB5031455 failed on both of these. I just put it down to a problem with the update itself. The update would install itself, but after 30% the PC would reboot (normal so far) and then it would fail rather than finishing the update - and reboot again. Then, after a third reboot, it gave a weird "something's gone wrong here" message. (see screenshot)
Then yesterday the same thing happened with a newer update KB5032190. Again this happened on both of my boot partitions, so I knew it wasn't a bad update, and it was caused by something in common to both boot partitions.
After wasting the better part of a day, and reinstalling Windows 11 (it doesn't overwrite any settings or data - just takes a long time) and trying various other fixes that I found online - I tried disabling Malwarebytes. Everything worked OK after this and the update installed on both partitions.
I'll be doing this until I hear that this issue has been resolved - as it is a real PIA (and time waster) to wait for the update to fail and then to roll back and fix itself - which requires 4-5 more reboots.
MalwareBytesPremium 4.6.6 bricked the Nov 14 Windows 11 update on my Framework laptop. Took me awhile to figure out that it was the culprit here. One solution was to uninstall MalwareBytesPremium entirely and then install the windows 11 update, however that too failed. Had to redo system ID Finally reinstall MalwareBytes afterwards. A real PITA.
We have the same problem in a company with approx. 1000 client computers.
I think Malwarebytes is not aware of the extent of the problem. It is extremely time-consuming to apply this workaround (which also works for us) to every computer.
If malwarebytes does not take such things seriously in the future we will have to refrain from further cooperation with malwarebytes as we have had frequent problems with malwarebytes in the past which have cost us a lot of time.
This link is not for Consumer products. Creating a Business Ticket for the Consumer Product will actually take much longer to get a response as it will be re-queued to the back of the line in the Consumer Support area.
I've been hit by this as well as a friend who has the same Lenovo V15 laptop. Each restart takes about 30 minutes of repeated reboots before it gets back to the desktop. I've removed MWB and I'm trying the update again.
I've just installed the same - it installed fine but it's broken some other software I use (Seadrive/Seafile). Ho hum! Not MWB problem though. Thank goodness I regularly image my laptop using Macrium Reflect.
This is effecting Threatdown business users as well. It's a shame with how big companies can be, we don't have time to be uninstalling malwarebytes from each computer and run updates and than reinstall malwarebytes after. Malwarebytes should have patched and fixed this problem but we are still feeling the effects a month later with some end user's computers. Honestly unacceptable
I don't think this has anything to do with "...how big companies can be..." but is a side effect of the complexity of software interactions. Is is the "chaos" that is introduced. In this case, Chaos and Complex Systems in a Computing Platform theorem.
I thought you were taking to the original poster here or me but yes, that sounds like a business ticket should be raised. I always found them very responsive when I was IT manager at my last company where we used MWB commercially.
Until recently I used bitdefender with premium malwarebytes, but I allowed my bit defender subscription to end and thought I'd try using windows defender instead. But I renewed my malwarebytes subscription, so I have MWB and windows defender now. But I noticed window defender keeps get turned off in the windows security. I can turn it on again but it just seems to randomly turn itself off again without warning me. I read somewhere that it might possibly be malwarebytes turning it off, the info I read online said to turn off "always register malwarebytes in the windows security center" which is located in settings> security>windows security center. But if I do that, I get a worrying message in windows that virus protection has been turned off. I'm not sure if it diminishes MWB ability to protect my PC or not. I just want both MWB and windows defender to play nice together in the security center.
You should be able to disable the option in Malwarebytes that you mentioned for registering Malwarebytes in Security Center, restart your system, and then Windows Defender should enable itself automatically so that you don't see any messages about your virus protection being disabled as mentioned by the others above. If that does not work then there might be something else going on which is preventing Defender from enabling itself. If this is the case, please do the following so that we may take a closer look at what is going on with your system:
Okay thanks. I went ahead and did as instructed. Thus far windows defender seems to be remaining enabled. I kind of liked having malwarebytes info in the security center, purely for conveniences sake. But I suppose as long as i'm ensured MWB is actually still working as intended I guess i'll deal with that. Never had that problem with MWB being paired with bitdefender, so not sure why it's a problem with MWB+windows defender.
Malwarebytes is not designed to function like normal AV scanners and uses a new kind of scan engine that relies mostly on heuristics detection techniques rather than traditional threat signatures. Malwarebytes is also designed to look in all the locations where malware is known to install itself/hide, so a full or custom scan shouldn't be necessary, especially on any sort of frequent basis (like daily), especially since the default Threat Scan/Quick Scan checks all loading points/startup locations, the registry, all running processes and threads in memory, along with all system folders, program folders, and data folders as well as any installed browsers, caches, and temp locations. This also means that if a threat were active from a non-standard location because Malwarebytes checks all threads and processes in memory, it should still be detected. The only threat it *might* miss would be a dormant/inactive threat that is not actively running/installed on a secondary drive, however, if the threat were executed then Malwarebytes should detect it. Additionally, whenever a new location is discovered to be used by malware the Malwarebytes Research team adds that location dynamically to the outgoing database updates so the locations that are checked by the default Threat/Quick Scan in Malwarebytes can be changed on the fly by Research without requiring any engine or program version updates/upgrades.
For example, you get an email with an infected attachment, Malwarebytes will not even blink until you run it yet Defender will detect it if it is in their database without even actually clicking on it. Remember the list of files Malwarebytes does not target.
Having a monthly image of your computer on an external drive that is only connected during the backup is actually better than any protective software ever made. Macrium Reflect free is the program I use and place on every computer I service.
Hi! First, I want to establish some background to my issue. I used to run Malwarebytes premium in the security center of windows defender. All went well (although sometimes I noticed some issues) until one day Defender detected VirTool:Win32/DefenderTamperingRestore. This was odd to me since defender didn't even have periodic scanning on and I hadn't downloaded anything new in weeks nor had I seen any suspicious activity. The issue didn't repeat until it popped up again one day. After doing some research with a friend, we determined that it was most likely defender not liking MWBs trying to turn it off. I unregistered MWBs from windows defender's security center and haven't seen the issue pop up since.
Recently though, I've been wondering if it's a good idea to have MWBs RTP and defender's RTP on at the same time. I understand that there can be some conflicts in those kinds of situations. I've seen conflicting opinions on other sites, so I am curious if running both of these at the same time will cause any issues or make me less secure. Thanks for the help!
I think the key word though would be "potentially". In most testing there are rarely ever detections that Malwarebytes does not detect and WD does. As with any antivirus product though all products can and do find things from time to time that others do not.
It is highly unlikely that you need to setup exclusions for Windows Defender, however if you experience any issues, please see the following article and setup exclusions
between Malwarebytes and Windows Deefender
Thank you everyone for the speedy replies! I will keep defender and MWB running together for now on. I guess I know what forums to head to if I ever have an issue with that "DefenderTamperingRestore" thing coming back, haha. So far though, it hasn't popped up once I let MWB's and defender coexist! Thanks for the help! I appreciate it!
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