Konversi Gas..

[Ericson]

Buat para keongers,

Aku mau nanya gimana konversi Gas Hidrogen dan LPG dari NM³  ke M³ ???

Contoh : Pemakaian Hidrogen 2200NM³/hr, Konversi  Ke M³/hr..?????

                  Pemakaian LPG 2600NM³/hr, Konversi  Ke M³/hr..?????

Mohon bantuannya bro..

Best Regards

Ericson P. N

You will never walk alone

 

[hotdy rumahorbo]

Wah manager Patra koq nanya sama Sales Sabun…. Setahuku NM3 itu kan Nano Meter, berarti klo konversi k m3 ya tinggal kali 1.000.000.000.000 (urutannya kilo-mega-giga-nano) ajalah.. macam mana teman2???

 

Regards,

 

Hotdy S Rumahorbo

08152100016

[george pasaribu]

Tukang sabun gitu jawabnya pre...tapi klo tukang jual chemical tinggal copy paste aja ha...ha.....

 

The unit Nm3 stands for normal cubic meter.  When measuring gas
volumes, the N means the gas is at normal temperature and pressure,
usually taken to be 20.0 C and 1.01 bar (one atmosphere).

I presume the meaning is the same for liquids, though the unit
should probably be just m3.  This would probably refer to the volume
at one atmosphere and whatever temperature the liquid argon is
at.  It could also mean at the pressure the argon is subjected
to.  For completeness, the temperature and pressure should be
specified, although liquid densities do not vary much with
temperature and pressure (compared to gases).
A Normal Cubic Meter of a gas (Nm3) is the volume of that gas
measured under the standard conditions of 0 degrees Celsius,
and 1 atmosphere of pressure. Specifying the "Normal"
conditions of measurement must be done with gases, since the
volume of a gas is inversely proportional to its pressure,
and proportional to absolute temperature. In other words,
because gas volume changes so dramatically with temperature
and pressure, we have to establish some "normal" or "known"
temperature and pressure conditions in order to be able to
compare one person's measurement with another.

Liquids are also universally measured in cubic meters, but
not "Normal" cubic meters, since liquids are not subject to
the dramatic changes in volume that gases are when
temperature and pressure are changed.

So the answer to the first part of your question is, yes, it
is not only possible to measure a liquid volume using cubic
meters, (or the unit called "Liters" that is 1/1000th of a
cubic meter) nearly everyone in the world uses this as an
everyday measure of liquid volume, just as in the US, quarts,
gallons, cubic feet, cubic inches, and fluid ounces are
somewhat confusingly used for the same thing.

The answer to the second part of your question, namely can
liquid gases be measured in *Normal* Cubic Meters, is no. The
reason is simply that it is required to do the "Normal"
measurement at 0 degrees Celsius, and as you no doubt know,
any normal liquefied gas (such as liquid argon) is no longer
a liquid at this high temperature. It would not be possible
to measure its volume since it would have all boiled away
already. I suspect that you may have misunderstood and your
employer must be using Cubic Meters as a liquid measure.

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To: keong...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 7:12 pm
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Tukang sabun gitu jawabnya pre...tapi klo tukang jual chemical tinggal copy paste aja ha...ha.....

?

The unit Nm3 stands for normal cubic meter.? When measuring gas

volumes, the N means the gas is at normal temperature and pressure,
usually taken to be 20.0 C and 1.01 bar (one atmosphere).

I presume the meaning is the same for liquids, though the unit

should probably be just m3.? This would probably refer to the volume

at one atmosphere and whatever temperature the liquid argon is

at.? It could also mean at the pressure the argon is subjected
to.? For completeness, the temperature and pressure should be

Aku mau nanya gimana konversi Gas Hidrogen dan LPG dari NM3 ?ke
M3 ???

Contoh : Pemakaian Hidrogen 2200NM3/hr, Konversi? Ke M3/hr..?????

??????????????? ? Pemakaian LPG 2600NM3/hr, Konversi? Ke M3/hr..?????

Mohon bantuannya bro..

Best Regards

Ericson P. N

You will never walk alone

?

[erkab...@aol.com]

Hahaha...

munchen....munchen...riwayatmu kini.... ;)

[Ericson]

Mantap kali jawaban pre oge, tak percuma uda 30 tahun.

Begini ceritanya........

Kilang kami ada produksi Fuel gas, tapi tidak cukup untuk semua heater di plant, jadi sisanya di import dari Pertamina.. Nah pemakaian Fuel gas untuk semua heater dan flare sekitar 4400NM³/hr. Banyaknya LPG yang diimport dari Pertamina sekitar 1M³/hr. Aku jadi bingung material balancenya...  

 

Best Regards

Ericson P. N

You will never walk alone

 

[ganda manurung]

Berat bgt jawaban oge. Ternyata my pals, banyak yang jenius. 15 tahun lagi kalo duit cukup, bisalah kita buat pabrik. SDM buat Direktur Operasinya dah ada yang jago buat hitung2an operasi. --- On Sun, 12/14/08, Ericson <Ericson_n...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:

From: Ericson <Ericson_n...@yahoo.com.sg> Subject: RE: Balasan: Konversi Gas..

[Erison Marpaung]

Jangan gitu lah bosss.
aku juga jadi tambah stress. Tapi khan masih bisa k Taiwan
Woi semua, aku nyampe di Medan tanggal 20 Desember jam 10 malam.
Kapan kita bisa jumpa pers buat teman2 yang ada di Medan?

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Hahaha...

munchen....munchen...riwayatmu kini.... ;)

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To: keong...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 1:37 am

Subject: RE: Balasan: Konversi Gas..

Nah gini kan senang awak lhatnya.... Klo lulusan bangkok beda memang..cb klo ada 

lulusan muenchen ya....



regards 

Hotdy Rumahorbo 



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To: keong...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 7:12 pm

Subject: Balasan: Konversi Gas..





















Tukang sabun gitu jawabnya pre...tapi klo tukang jual chemical tinggal copy 

paste aja ha...ha.....

  

?

  

The unit Nm3 stands for normal cubic meter.? When measuring gas 

volumes, the N means the gas is at normal temperature and pressure, 

usually taken to be 20.0 C and 1.01 bar (one atmosphere).



I presume the meaning is the same for liquids, though the unit 

should probably be just m3.? This would probably refer to the volume 

at one atmosphere and whatever temperature the liquid argon is 

at.? It could also mean at the pressure the argon is subjected 

to.? For completeness, the temperature and pressure should be 

Aku mau nanya gimana konversi Gas Hidrogen dan LPG dari NM3 ?ke

 M3 ???

  

Contoh : Pemakaian Hidrogen 2200NM3/hr, Konversi? Ke M3/hr..?????

  

??????????????? ? Pemakaian LPG 2600NM3/hr, Konversi? Ke M3/hr..?????

  

Mohon bantuannya bro.. 

  

Best Regards

  

Ericson P. N

  



  

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Hotdy S Rumahorbo

08152100016

 

From: keong...@googlegroups.com [mailto:keong...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ganda manurung
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 10:10 PM
To: keong...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Balasan: Konversi Gas..

 

Berat bgt jawaban oge.

Ternyata my pals, banyak yang jenius. 15 tahun lagi kalo duit cukup, bisalah kita buat pabrik.

SDM buat Direktur Operasinya dah ada yang jago buat hitung2an operasi.

[Loriva]

Happy birthday ya oge….

Wish u all the best

 

­­_riva

 

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Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 6:12 PM
To: keong...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Balasan: Konversi Gas..

 

Tukang sabun gitu jawabnya pre...tapi klo tukang jual chemical tinggal copy paste aja ha...ha.....

[erkab...@aol.com]

Jgn stress dl nak...
msh bnyk jln utk jd KAYA....hahhaha...

salah satunya bikin pabrik spt yg diusulkan Ganda....

cemna Gan, tinggal siapkan aja lahannya...nnt kita atur2 aja...

=0
Avolumes, the N means the gas is at normal temperature and pressure, 

[erwin sitinjak]

ha.ha.kacian jg ya mau ke muencen yach.tp kayaknya made in lokal ngk kalah tuh buktinya apre riko bisa jd spesial tekim kok.,ya ngk pre..Kayaknya dr luar ngk gitu2 kali lah he2..Aku mau resign lagi nih dr pabrik lama erik (pabrik yg baru kumasuki 3 minggu) hbs tdk cocok dgn Hindia Keling (my Manager) byk 'ular'nya kebetulan ada tawaran di Lubuk Pakam.. Buat apre Icon ada lowongan nih kali aja cocok   QA PT.Pacific Palmindo Medan Industri email : bam...@pacificpalmindo.com PT.Salim Ivomas Pratam Jl.Sudirman No.82 Lubuk Pakam   Ohya tgl 20 posisiku di Medan pre..atur aja..  --- Pada Sen, 15/12/08, erkab...@aol.com <erkab...@aol.com> menulis:

Dari: erkab...@aol.com <erkab...@aol.com> Topik: Re: Balasan: Konversi Gas.. Kepada: keong...@googlegroups.com Tanggal: Senin, 15 Desember, 2008, 5:07 AM

Jgn stress dl nak... msh bnyk jln utk jd KAYA....hahhaha... salah satunya bikin pabrik spt yg diusulkan Ganda.... cemna Gan, tinggal siapkan aja lahannya...nnt kita atur2 aja... -----Original Message----- From: Erison Marpaung <erisonm...@maktoob.com> To: keong...@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 9:06 am Subject: Re: Balasan: Konversi Gas..

Jangan gitu lah bosss. aku juga jadi tambah stress. Tapi khan masih bisa k Taiwan Woi semua, aku nyampe di Medan tanggal 20 Desember jam 10 malam. Kapan kita bisa jumpa pers buat teman2 yang ada di Medan?

On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:42:38 -0500, erkab...@aol.com wrote:

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[erwin sitinjak]

ha.ha.kacian jg ya mau ke muencen yach.tp kayaknya made in lokal ngk kalah tuh buktinya apre riko bisa jd spesial tekim kok.,ya ngk pre..Kayaknya dr luar ngk gitu2 kali lah he2..Aku mau resign lagi nih dr pabrik lama erik (pabrik yg baru kumasuki 3 minggu) hbs tdk cocok dgn Hindia Keling (my Manager) byk 'ular'nya kebetulan ada tawaran di Lubuk Pakam.. Buat apre Icon ada lowongan nih kali aja cocok   QA PT.Pacific Palmindo Medan Industri email : bam...@pacificpalmindo.com PT.Salim Ivomas Pratam Jl.Sudirman No.82 Lubuk Pakam   Ohya tgl 20 posisiku di Medan pre..atur aja..  --- Pada Sen, 15/12/08, erkab...@aol.com <erkab...@aol.com> menulis:

Dari: erkab...@aol.com <erkab...@aol.com> Topik: Re: Balasan: Konversi Gas.. Kepada: keong...@googlegroups.com Tanggal: Senin, 15 Desember, 2008, 5:07 AM

Jgn stress dl nak... msh bnyk jln utk jd KAYA....hahhaha... salah satunya bikin pabrik spt yg diusulkan Ganda.... cemna Gan, tinggal siapkan aja lahannya...nnt kita atur2 aja... -----Original Message----- From: Erison Marpaung <erisonm...@maktoob.com> To: keong...@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 9:06 am Subject: Re: Balasan: Konversi Gas..

Jangan gitu lah bosss. aku juga jadi tambah stress. Tapi khan masih bisa k Taiwan Woi semua, aku nyampe di Medan tanggal 20 Desember jam 10 malam. Kapan kita bisa jumpa pers buat teman2 yang ada di Medan?

On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:42:38 -0500, erkab...@aol.com wrote:

Hahaha... munchen.....munchen...riwayatmu kini.... ;)

[Hotdy]

Mantap kli apre ini.... Klo special d sawit Jadi laris manis.....
Klo ada ular&orang keling, yg duluan d basmi biasanya org keling dulu pre..he..he..(dlam hal ini kesamaan warna kulit bukan berarti kesamaan karakter :) )

Jangan gitu lah bosss.
aku juga jadi tambah stress. Tapi khan masih bisa k Taiwan

Woi semua, aku nyampe di Medan tanggal 20 Desember jam 10 malam.
Kapan kita bisa jumpa pers buat teman2 yang ada di Medan?

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Hahaha...

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[george pasaribu]

Mmg sekarang org india ekspansi engineer diseluruh asia pre...

Sama, bos ku juga org2 india yg disingapura, yah jagonya mutar balik kata2 aja..padahal klo dia pulang kampung naik kereta lembu juga he..he...

 

Tapi klo aku agak enak pre, krn warna kulit dah hampir sama, sering dikirain org itu org india juga

Hotdy <hotdy.r...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:

Mantap kli apre ini.... Klo special d sawit Jadi laris manis.....
Klo ada ular&orang keling, yg duluan d basmi biasanya org keling dulu pre..he..he..(dlam hal ini kesamaan warna kulit bukan berarti kesamaan karakter :) )

regards
Hotdy Rumahorbo

-----Original Message-----
From: erwin sitinjak
Sent: Monday, 15 December 2008 8:17 PM
To: keong...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Balasan: Konversi Gas..

ha.ha.kacian jg ya mau ke muencen yach.tp kayaknya made in lokal ngk kalah tuh buktinya apre riko bisa jd spesial tekim kok.,ya ngk pre..Kayaknya dr luar ngk gitu2 kali lah he2..Aku mau resign lagi nih dr pabrik lama erik (pabrik yg baru kumasuki 3 minggu) hbs tdk cocok dgn Hindia Keling (my Manager) byk 'ular'nya kebetulan ada tawaran di Lubuk Pakam..
Buat apre Icon ada lowongan nih kali aja cocok
 
QA
PT.Pacific Palmindo Medan Industri
email : bam...@pacificpalmindo.com
PT.Salim Ivomas Pratam
Jl.Sudirman No.82 Lubuk Pakam
 
Ohya tgl 20 posisiku di Medan pre..atur aja.. 

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[Ericson]

Mantap juga apre oge ini, bisa nyamar jadi orang india, tapi ngularnya jangan ditiru pre....... Kalau ama orang china bisa bahasa mandarin (china hitam) memang apre ini mantap kali ... Salut...

Apre Erwin kok bisa resign pre, kalau sesama pabrik minyak sawit biasanya tidak jauh beda pre, kalau dapat ya Sinar mas group, kesejahteraan lebih menjanjikan.. Penguasa pabrik sawit ini kalau tidak China malaysia ya dari india.. makanya pre mulai sekaranh hitam2kan kulitnya seperti oge.. he....he..

Btw pre riko tak ada kasi komen tentang pertanyaan aku??

 

Best Regards

Ericson P. N

You will never walk alone

 

From: keong...@googlegroups.com [mailto:keong...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of george pasaribu

Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 9:13 PM
To: keong...@googlegroups.com

Subject: Balasan: RE: Balasan: Konversi Gas..

 

Mmg sekarang org india ekspansi engineer diseluruh asia pre...

Sama, bos ku juga org2 india yg disingapura, yah jagonya mutar balik kata2 aja..padahal klo dia pulang kampung naik kereta lembu juga he..he...

 

Tapi klo aku agak enak pre, krn warna kulit dah hampir sama, sering dikirain org itu org india juga

Hotdy <hotdy.r...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:

[Hotdy]

Ya memang business sawit sedang meradang.....
Klo oge bisa bahasa mandarin, berarti dia HITACHI = Hitam Tapi China.... He..he...

regards
Hotdy Rumahorbo

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From: Ericson <Ericson_n...@yahoo.com.sg>
Sent: Tuesday, 16 December 2008 9:53 AM
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Mantap juga apre oge ini, bisa nyamar jadi orang india, tapi ngularnya jangan ditiru pre....... Kalau ama orang china bisa bahasa mandarin (china hitam) memang apre ini mantap kali ... Salut...

Apre Erwin kok bisa resign pre, kalau sesama pabrik minyak sawit biasanya tidak jauh beda pre, kalau dapat ya Sinar mas group, kesejahteraan lebih menjanjikan.. Penguasa pabrik sawit ini kalau tidak China malaysia ya dari india.. makanya pre mulai sekaranh hitam2kan kulitnya seperti oge.. he....he..

Btw pre riko tak ada kasi komen tentang pertanyaan aku??



Best Regards

Ericson P. N

Liver

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Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 9:13 PM
To: keong...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Balasan: RE: Balasan: Konversi Gas..



Mmg sekarang org india ekspansi engineer diseluruh asia pre...

Sama, bos ku juga org2 india yg disingapura, yah jagonya mutar balik kata2 aja..padahal klo dia pulang kampung naik kereta lembu juga he..he...

Tapi klo aku agak enak pre, krn warna kulit dah hampir sama, sering dikirain org itu org india juga Image removed by sender.

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[erkab...@aol.com]

Hahaha...makanya Ge kesinilha biar bs belajar bhs Cina... ;)

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[Riko Napitupulu]

Kalo bicara masalah org India dikantorku hampir 85% International worker (expatriat) nya itu orang india semua tuh, maklumlah dari semua zona area, India yg punya kemampuan bahasa inggris yang lumayan dan bisa dibayar lebih murah jika dibandingkan dgn expatriat asal Amerika atau Eropa. Sisanya org Philipino dan China Malay.

Sorry Ric, aku lumayan sibuk akhir2 ini lagi tight schedule, Yang dibilang Pre Oge itu banar sekali tentang beda Nm3/hr dgn m3/hr. Kalo menurut aku seh, hal pertama yang perlu adalah menentukan Calorivic Value required dari fuel gas system mu (misl. berapa MBtu/hr) Karena sebesar itulah energy yg musti disubsitusi oleh LPG, karena beda komposisi HC akan memberikan beda Gross Heating Value (GHV) apalagi untuk heater (kau pake fired heater yah?) dan itu akan menentukan berapa banyak LPG yang dibutuhkan, Apakah ada option LPG tambahan akan di mixing dgn existing fuel gas yg available? Karena mixing ini akan merubah coloriviv value dari fuel gas. Sebelumnya di Plan mu, kau punya berapa type fuel gas (HP Fuel gas & LP Fuel gas)?

 

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[Ericson]

Kalau Calor Value required untuk heaternya aku tidak tau, Tapi kalor dari Fuel gas yang dihasilkan + LPG sekitar = 10755 kCal/NM3. Kami pakai LP fuel gas Heater.. Ko, kalau convert NM³ ke KG untuk LPG kita pakai rumus PV=nRT ya??? Karena LPG khan multi komponen, bisa tidak...??? thanx

 

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