X-Wing Minis Game
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Christopher Freeman
Oct 1, 2012, 2:53:09 PM10/1/12
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Justin Geering
Oct 1, 2012, 6:57:50 PM10/1/12
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I was just looking at it myself this weekend. But is it even out?
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Christopher Freeman
Oct 2, 2012, 9:43:29 AM10/2/12
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It is out. Played a little last night. I think it has potential.
However, the ships stands are a bit fragile.
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However, the ships stands are a bit fragile.
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Chris Crossley
Oct 2, 2012, 9:57:49 AM10/2/12
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From what I've heard, it is based heavily on the Wings of War game, but different enough that it won't get them sued since I believe they've given up the Wings of War license.
But that's all hearsay.
I would really like to try it out, but I think I'm going to have to give it a pass. Just too much money already tied up in way too many games and hobbies and no time to really play any of them.
I'm tired of spending money to stay up on my collections, but keeping them in a box collecting dust.
So, I think I'll stay out of this game and if I get to jonesing for some Star Wars spaciness I'll pull out my West End Games Star Warriors game or my large collection of WotC Starship Battles and find some good space combat rules to go with it...like Silent Death or something.
I would love to hear what people think of the X-Wing game once they give it a shot though.
-Chris Crossley
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Subject: RE: KCSWM X-Wing Minis Game
It is out. Played a little last night. I think it has potential.
However, the ships stands are a bit fragile.
But that's all hearsay.
I would really like to try it out, but I think I'm going to have to give it a pass. Just too much money already tied up in way too many games and hobbies and no time to really play any of them.
I'm tired of spending money to stay up on my collections, but keeping them in a box collecting dust.
So, I think I'll stay out of this game and if I get to jonesing for some Star Wars spaciness I'll pull out my West End Games Star Warriors game or my large collection of WotC Starship Battles and find some good space combat rules to go with it...like Silent Death or something.
I would love to hear what people think of the X-Wing game once they give it a shot though.
-Chris Crossley
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From: "Christopher Freeman" <ntchr...@hotmail.com>
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Subject: RE: KCSWM X-Wing Minis Game
It is out. Played a little last night. I think it has potential.
However, the ships stands are a bit fragile.
Subject: Re: KCSWM X-Wing Minis Game
From: jazz...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 17:57:50 -0500
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I was just looking at it myself this weekend. But is it even out?
Justin Geering
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From: jazz...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 17:57:50 -0500
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I was just looking at it myself this weekend. But is it even out?
Justin Geering
Michael Taylor
Oct 3, 2012, 3:47:36 PM10/3/12
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Not yet, but I'm dying to!
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Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 13:53:09 -0500
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Michael Taylor
Oct 3, 2012, 4:18:03 PM10/3/12
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Yeah! At both Target and Aero Hobbies!
Mataoog (mata oog) night hunter
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Michael Taylor
Oct 4, 2012, 11:57:56 AM10/4/12
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> From what I've heard, it is based heavily on the Wings of War game, but different enough that it won't get them sued since I believe they've given up the Wings of War license.
>
> But that's all hearsay.
>
> From what I've heard, it is based heavily on the Wings of War game, but different enough that it won't get them sued since I believe they've given up the Wings of War license.
>
> But that's all hearsay.
>
As far as I can tell, that's a totally BS rumor. Started by the guy who designed Wings of War.
What happened is that they went to him as said "Can we make a Star Wars mod from this?". He said yes. They looked at it and said "No, this won't work." and went off and designed their own game.
Now he's posting on-line that they're not even giving him credit.
I've played Wings of War and I hated it. I haven't played X-Wing but it looks MUCH better.
There are some very superficial similarities, but it's about the same as saying Star Wars Miniatures is a ripoff of HeroClix. It's sorta true, but not in any way that means anything.
What happened is that they went to him as said "Can we make a Star Wars mod from this?". He said yes. They looked at it and said "No, this won't work." and went off and designed their own game.
Now he's posting on-line that they're not even giving him credit.
I've played Wings of War and I hated it. I haven't played X-Wing but it looks MUCH better.
There are some very superficial similarities, but it's about the same as saying Star Wars Miniatures is a ripoff of HeroClix. It's sorta true, but not in any way that means anything.
> I would really like to try it out, but I think I'm going to have to give it a pass. Just too much money already tied up in way too many games and hobbies and no time to really play any of them.
>
> I'm tired of spending money to stay up on my collections, but keeping them in a box collecting dust.
>
So sell your collection! What've ya got? ;)
> So, I think I'll stay out of this game and if I get to jonesing for some Star Wars spaciness I'll pull out my West End Games Star Warriors game or my large collection of WotC Starship Battles and find some good space combat rules to go with it...like Silent Death or something.
>
I looked at Star Warriors again. This was a game I LOVED, but I can't imagine playing it again these days. Too long, too complicated and doesn't work with very many ships. I think X-Wing will be a lot more fun and fast.
I looked at Silent Death too and had the same problems with it.
Actually, I finally found a way to enjoy Starship Battles with very few modifications (http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/683565/off-the-grid-tabltop-battle-rules-for-swmsb).
I looked at Silent Death too and had the same problems with it.
Actually, I finally found a way to enjoy Starship Battles with very few modifications (http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/683565/off-the-grid-tabltop-battle-rules-for-swmsb).
> I would love to hear what people think of the X-Wing game once they give it a shot though.
>
> -Chris Crossley
>
Will do! I'm currently making cards and dials for all my Micro Machines! :)
Chris Crossley
Oct 4, 2012, 1:13:57 PM10/4/12
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>
> [From what I've heard, it is based heavily on the Wings of War game, but different enough that it won't get them sued since I believe they've given up the Wings of War license.
>
> But that's all hearsay.]
>
***As far as I can tell, that's a totally BS rumor. Started by the guy who designed Wings of War.
What happened is that they went to him as said "Can we make a Star Wars mod from this?". He said yes. They looked at it and said "No, this won't work." and went off and designed their own game.
Now he's posting on-line that they're not even giving him credit.
I've played Wings of War and I hated it. I haven't played X-Wing but it looks MUCH better.
There are some very superficial similarities, but it's about the same as saying Star Wars Miniatures is a ripoff of HeroClix. It's sorta true, but not in any way that means anything.***
All of my info comes from an avid fan of Wings of War & a guy that has been dying to play the new Star Wars game. He's usually pretty good about checking forums and his facts, but again, I don't know for sure.
> [I would really like to try it out, but I think I'm going to have to give it a pass. Just too much money already tied up in way too many games and hobbies and no time to really play any of them.
>
> I'm tired of spending money to stay up on my collections, but keeping them in a box collecting dust.]
>
***So sell your collection! What've ya got? ;)***
What DON'T I have???
The problem with selling is that you very seldom get what you paid out of them. And on top of that, I did collect them for a reason. I do still HOPE to play these many, many games again one of these days.
But related to this group...I have almost everything that WotC put out for the Star Wars minis game and for the Starship Battles game.
There are only a handful of sets for Star Wars minis that I don't have completed...everything before and including Legacy is complete...as is Clone Wars and Masters of the Force. I'm real close on Jedi Academy and Imperial Entanglements. I think Knights of the Old Republic is the set that I'm furthest from completing.
But other than Star Wars? TONS of Heroclix sets...everything up to and including Giant-Size X-Men is complete (including Chase figures) and I've got most of the newer sets through Galactic Guardians, Avengers Movie and Dark Knight Rises. Horrorclix...Halo Actionclix...Crimson Skies...Lord of the Rings (Hex)...Lord of the Rings (Heroclix)...Street Fighter (Heroclix)...Star Trek Tactics (Heroclix)...a TON (14 plastic storage cases) of D&D minis...Dreamblade...Pirates of the Spanish Main (and expansions)...Star Wars Pocket Models...Axis & Allies War at Sea (complete sets except for the sixth and final set)...Axis & Allies (first three sets are complete)...Mechwarrior...a TON of Mage Knight (including a HUGE castle setup)...Arcane Legions (boy did that game die fast)...Race Day...Monsterpocalypse...hmmm...that MIGHT be all of my collectible minis games.
As you can see...I've always been a bit of a gaming addict. Then once I'm in a game, I'm a bit of a completionist.
That doesn't even include the tons of collectible card games and the five bookcases of RPGs.
Like I said...after 25 years of dumping funds into the bottomless pit...time to start making the hard calls on what I will continue to buy sporadically.
***Actually, I finally found a way to enjoy Starship Battles with very few modifications ( http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/683565/off-the-grid-tabltop-battle-rules-for-swmsb ).***
I'll check this out.
I'm always on the lookout for a nice rules set.
Oh...another good Star Wars question...
Who is beta testing Fantasy Flight's new Star Wars RPG?
Once again, I'm holding off...but my will might break when the second book dealing with the Rebel Alliance or the third book dealing with Jedi drops.
-Chris C.
> [From what I've heard, it is based heavily on the Wings of War game, but different enough that it won't get them sued since I believe they've given up the Wings of War license.
>
> But that's all hearsay.]
>
***As far as I can tell, that's a totally BS rumor. Started by the guy who designed Wings of War.
What happened is that they went to him as said "Can we make a Star Wars mod from this?". He said yes. They looked at it and said "No, this won't work." and went off and designed their own game.
Now he's posting on-line that they're not even giving him credit.
I've played Wings of War and I hated it. I haven't played X-Wing but it looks MUCH better.
All of my info comes from an avid fan of Wings of War & a guy that has been dying to play the new Star Wars game. He's usually pretty good about checking forums and his facts, but again, I don't know for sure.
> [I would really like to try it out, but I think I'm going to have to give it a pass. Just too much money already tied up in way too many games and hobbies and no time to really play any of them.
>
> I'm tired of spending money to stay up on my collections, but keeping them in a box collecting dust.]
>
***So sell your collection! What've ya got? ;)***
What DON'T I have???
The problem with selling is that you very seldom get what you paid out of them. And on top of that, I did collect them for a reason. I do still HOPE to play these many, many games again one of these days.
But related to this group...I have almost everything that WotC put out for the Star Wars minis game and for the Starship Battles game.
There are only a handful of sets for Star Wars minis that I don't have completed...everything before and including Legacy is complete...as is Clone Wars and Masters of the Force. I'm real close on Jedi Academy and Imperial Entanglements. I think Knights of the Old Republic is the set that I'm furthest from completing.
But other than Star Wars? TONS of Heroclix sets...everything up to and including Giant-Size X-Men is complete (including Chase figures) and I've got most of the newer sets through Galactic Guardians, Avengers Movie and Dark Knight Rises. Horrorclix...Halo Actionclix...Crimson Skies...Lord of the Rings (Hex)...Lord of the Rings (Heroclix)...Street Fighter (Heroclix)...Star Trek Tactics (Heroclix)...a TON (14 plastic storage cases) of D&D minis...Dreamblade...Pirates of the Spanish Main (and expansions)...Star Wars Pocket Models...Axis & Allies War at Sea (complete sets except for the sixth and final set)...Axis & Allies (first three sets are complete)...Mechwarrior...a TON of Mage Knight (including a HUGE castle setup)...Arcane Legions (boy did that game die fast)...Race Day...Monsterpocalypse...hmmm...that MIGHT be all of my collectible minis games.
As you can see...I've always been a bit of a gaming addict. Then once I'm in a game, I'm a bit of a completionist.
That doesn't even include the tons of collectible card games and the five bookcases of RPGs.
Like I said...after 25 years of dumping funds into the bottomless pit...time to start making the hard calls on what I will continue to buy sporadically.
***Actually, I finally found a way to enjoy Starship Battles with very few modifications ( http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/683565/off-the-grid-tabltop-battle-rules-for-swmsb ).***
I'll check this out.
I'm always on the lookout for a nice rules set.
Oh...another good Star Wars question...
Who is beta testing Fantasy Flight's new Star Wars RPG?
Once again, I'm holding off...but my will might break when the second book dealing with the Rebel Alliance or the third book dealing with Jedi drops.
-Chris C.
Michael Taylor
Oct 4, 2012, 8:34:47 PM10/4/12
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>
> All of my info comes from an avid fan of Wings of War & a guy that has been dying to play the new Star Wars game. He's usually pretty good about checking forums and his facts, but again, I don't know for sure.
>
> All of my info comes from an avid fan of Wings of War & a guy that has been dying to play the new Star Wars game. He's usually pretty good about checking forums and his facts, but again, I don't know for sure.
>
I don't know for sure either, I'm just reading between the lines on all the discussions on Boardgame geek, but I know that X-Wing doesn't seem to have any of the things that made me hate Wings of War.
>
> ***So sell your collection! What've ya got? ;)***
>
>
> What DON'T I have???
>
> The problem with selling is that you very seldom get what you paid out of them. And on top of that, I did collect them for a reason. I do still HOPE to play these many, many games again one of these days.
>
Wait? You're saying that when you sell your used gaming miniatures you don't get what you paid for them new??!?! Wow, I never would have suspected! ;)
Of course youdon't! But so what? If you don't want them anymore what difference does it make WHAT you get for it? You can always put whatever you get into new toys!
If you DO want them, then enjoy them! As investments go, games of ANY kind are a pathetic choice. As Cool-Stuff-I-Have they are priceless.
Of course youdon't! But so what? If you don't want them anymore what difference does it make WHAT you get for it? You can always put whatever you get into new toys!
If you DO want them, then enjoy them! As investments go, games of ANY kind are a pathetic choice. As Cool-Stuff-I-Have they are priceless.
> But related to this group...I have almost everything that WotC put out for the Star Wars minis game and for the Starship Battles game.
>
Me too! And with the Off-The-Grid supplement it makes the rules really work. For a lot of battles, I'll actually be using those rules (for example, battles of Naboo Starfighters versus Vulture Droids). Of course, if you want to get rid of any of it, please let me know! And NO, I will not pay you what you origionally paid for them! ;)
> There are only a handful of sets for Star Wars minis that I don't have completed...everything before and including Legacy is complete...as is Clone Wars and Masters of the Force. I'm real close on Jedi Academy and Imperial Entanglements. I think Knights of the Old Republic is the set that I'm furthest from completing.
>
Nice! I've got enough of a chunk of these to play with - but I'd LOVE to complete all the sets. For me, collecting is *almost* as fun as playing anyway. I don't EVER buy something with the idea that I'm going to sell it later. It's either "possible" that I might play it someday and worth owning - or it's not.
> But other than Star Wars? TONS of Heroclix sets...everything up to and including Giant-Size X-Men is complete (including Chase figures) and I've got most of the newer sets through Galactic Guardians, Avengers Movie and Dark Knight Rises. Horrorclix...Halo Actionclix...Crimson Skies...Lord of the Rings (Hex)...Lord of the Rings (Heroclix)...Street Fighter (Heroclix)...Star Trek Tactics (Heroclix)...a TON (14 plastic storage cases) of D&D minis...Dreamblade...Pirates of the Spanish Main (and expansions)...Star Wars Pocket Models...Axis & Allies War at Sea (complete sets except for the sixth and final set)...Axis & Allies (first three sets are complete)...Mechwarrior...a TON of Mage Knight (including a HUGE castle setup)...Arcane Legions (boy did that game die fast)...Race Day...Monsterpocalypse...hmmm...that MIGHT be all of my collectible minis games.
>
Okay,well you're WAY worse than me then! ;)
I've got a pretty darn complete set of Gotham Knights HeroClix (enough so I don't care anymore) and I'm aiming to get a complete set of Star Trek Tactics, but I never got into much else.
Though I AM trying to get as many of the Lord of the Rings (hex) figures that I can - again, if you want to get rid of them, I'll be glad to buy them from you if we can find an agreeable price. But only because I intend to PLAY with them. Unfortunately I was VERY unimpressed with the latest Lord of the Rings figures. :(
I've got a pretty darn complete set of Gotham Knights HeroClix (enough so I don't care anymore) and I'm aiming to get a complete set of Star Trek Tactics, but I never got into much else.
Though I AM trying to get as many of the Lord of the Rings (hex) figures that I can - again, if you want to get rid of them, I'll be glad to buy them from you if we can find an agreeable price. But only because I intend to PLAY with them. Unfortunately I was VERY unimpressed with the latest Lord of the Rings figures. :(
> As you can see...I've always been a bit of a gaming addict. Then once I'm in a game, I'm a bit of a completionist.
>
Oh I definitely am as well. Collecting is a hobby of mine - in addition to gaming.
> That doesn't even include the tons of collectible card games and the five bookcases of RPGs.
I only got into Versus - which I LOVE.
>
> Like I said...after 25 years of dumping funds into the bottomless pit...time to start making the hard calls on what I will continue to buy sporadically.
>
> Like I said...after 25 years of dumping funds into the bottomless pit...time to start making the hard calls on what I will continue to buy sporadically.
>
That's one way to look at it I guess. But it seems like it isn't that hard to figure out what do you REALLY want to keep owning and what you won't really miss, and then just post on eBay (or better yet a specialty mailing list so you know it will go to a good home and not appear on eBay a month later with a jacked up price) and then just narrow it down to the games you REALLY want to keep playing.
>
> I'll check this out.
>
> I'm always on the lookout for a nice rules set.
>
> I'll check this out.
>
> I'm always on the lookout for a nice rules set.
>
It's very cool. MINIMAL changes, but subtle enough to really make the game fun.
>
> Oh...another good Star Wars question...
>
> Who is beta testing Fantasy Flight's new Star Wars RPG?
>
> Oh...another good Star Wars question...
>
> Who is beta testing Fantasy Flight's new Star Wars RPG?
>
Okay, if you don't get help here - get help SOMEWHERE!! ;)
Who the heck needs ANOTHER Star Wars RPG!?!?
I have everything for EVERY Star Wars RPG ever done - but 99% percent of it I bought used.
Did you know there have been SEVEN Star Wars RPG's.
What can POSSIBLY be needed in a new one?!
Who the heck needs ANOTHER Star Wars RPG!?!?
I have everything for EVERY Star Wars RPG ever done - but 99% percent of it I bought used.
Did you know there have been SEVEN Star Wars RPG's.
What can POSSIBLY be needed in a new one?!
> Once again, I'm holding off...but my will might break when the second book dealing with the Rebel Alliance or the third book dealing with Jedi drops.
>
If it shows up cheap at a flea market (and it WILL), I *might* buy it one day, but other than that who cares? Star Wars as an RPG has been done to DEATH!
PS: I keep all my miniatures listed here: http://www.miniaturetrading.com/
So if you're up for some trading, I'd love to make some deals! That way, NEITHER of us spends any money to get stuff we want!
PS: I keep all my miniatures listed here: http://www.miniaturetrading.com/
So if you're up for some trading, I'd love to make some deals! That way, NEITHER of us spends any money to get stuff we want!
Chris Crossley
Oct 5, 2012, 11:30:00 AM10/5/12
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***I've got a pretty darn complete set of Gotham Knights HeroClix (enough so I don't care anymore) and I'm aiming to get a complete set of Star Trek Tactics, but I never got into much else.
Though I AM trying to get as many of the Lord of the Rings (hex) figures that I can - again, if you want to get rid of them, I'll be glad to buy them from you if we can find an agreeable price. But only because I intend to PLAY with them. Unfortunately I was VERY unimpressed with the latest Lord of the Rings figures. :( ***
I've been a die hard Heroclix fan since I just happened to be at my local game store when the first set, Inifinity Challenge, released in 2002.
I was always loved the idea of tactical miniatures games and I did play a few games of Warhammer 40k and Battletech that my friends had, but I was just not interested in assembly, painting or terrain building. So I stayed out of them.
Then Mage Knight came out. Prepainted figures almost pulled me in, but I still didn't like the idea of messing with tape measures and the need to get terrain to really complete the effect.
Then we got Heroclix...painted figures...small rulebooks...no charts or a lot of flipping for data...and gridded maps. Wait...I have a Speed of 6 so that lets me know I can move 6 squares? I'm down! =)
I bought a starter and a few boosters on release day, went home, cracked them open, skimmed the rules and then RUSHED back to the store before they closed and bought the rest of their stock! That's how quickly and completely Wizkids corrupted my soul.
I've played Star Trek Tactics once. It's a fun game. But then I like the Heroclix rules set. Although I really bought a bunch of these to use with Star Fleet Battles & Federation Commander skirmish games. Again, I HATE the hobby (assembly/painting) side of games. I just want to have my pieces and play the darn game. So Heroclix has given me a limited selection of prepainted minis to use for those games outside of the Heroclix rules.
Lord of the Rings (Hex) was fun. I got to play a few times. I have quite a bit of every set except for the last one, Return of the King. Unfortunately, just like with Mage Knight's Nexus closing set, the death of the game was already announced and the product was either never purchased by my game stores or they sold out too fast to die hard fans. I didn't get a fellbeast either. I do have all of the other "big" figures (Sauron, Troll, Treebeard & Balrog).
Lord of the Rings (Heroclix) is fun too. I love the horde/minion rules and the epic campaign rules. I'm also a big fan of compatibility. I like that I COULD mix LotR, Street Fighter, Star Trek, Marvel, DC, Indy, etc. Heroclix if I wanted. Better yet...I only need to learn the basic rules for each of those games once. I played a fun game using all LotR pieces (Legolas, Gandolf, Aragorn, Merry & Pippin I believe) and had a killer tourney. I had to face off against Sauron which was definitely tough, but we seemed to do alright. In the next match, I faced off against a team of Halo Heroclix which was definitely a bit of culture shock...but sword and sorcery trumped technology! =)
But I babble...
In the end, I always have big plans to use all of these minis for large scale army/squad/platoon/company sized games.
Take Star Wars minis for example. I've got the old, award winning, West End Games' Star Wars minis game. I never purchased and painted miniatures for it. Originally I was buying some of those Micro Machine squad minis, but it was VERY hard to track down Stormtrooper squads. Then WotC put out their Star Wars minis game. Woo-hoo! Prepainted minis!
Based on the West End Games' Star Wars RPG: Imperial Sourcebook, I have assembled (as best I can) two complete companies of Imperials from the WotC minis...
Company One: Stormtrooper Infantry Company (180 units)
Platoon 1: Four squads of stormtroopers, each has a heavy weapon trooper. (38 Stormtroopers)
Platoon 2: Four squads of stormtroopers, each has a heavy weapon trooper. (38 Stormtroopers)
Platoon 3: Three squads of stormtroopers, each has a heavy weapon trooper. One squad of stormtroopers, one is riding a repulsor sled. (38 Stormtroopers)
Platoon 4: (Special Forces) Two squads of shadow stormtroopers. Two squads of royal guards (close assault/elite stormtroopers). (38 Stormtroopers)
Command Element: Captain, 4 Lt.'s, 23 additional units (including an 8 man squad of Emperor's Shadow Guard and a Force contingent).
Possible Vehicle Support: TIE Tanks & AT-ST's.
Company Two: Special Terrain/Mechanized Company (180 units)
Platoon 1: Two snowtrooper squads. Two snow trooper squads with heavy repeating blaster. (38 snowtroopers)
Platoon 2: Two snowtrooper squads. Two snow trooper squads with heavy repeating blaster. (38 snowtroopers)
Platoon 3: One sandtrooper squad. One sandtrooper squad with 2 sandtroopers on dewback mounts. One scout trooper squad. One scout trooper squad with 5 speeder bikes. (38 troopers)
Platoon 4: Four squads of Imperial Army troopers. (38 troops)
Command Element: Captain, 4 Lt.'s, and 23 additional units (including two 9-person noghri commando/bodyguard squads).
Attached Vehicles: Three AT-AT's and five AT-ST's.
Additional Possible Vehicle Support: TIE Tanks.
I'd LOVE to see all of this out on the field of battle for a majorly extended game.
***If it shows up cheap at a flea market (and it WILL), I *might* buy it one day, but other than that who cares? Star Wars as an RPG has been done to DEATH!***
Yeah, I'm only missing two books and a handful of premod scenarios from the West End Games version of Star Wars which is by FAR my favorite. Those guys knew how to do it right.
I have most of the WotC D20 books and then some of the Saga books, but they just didn't wow me. Part of the reason is that it is tough to go from a free form system like West End D6 into a rigid level/class-based system like D20/Saga. It tends to crimp my character building style. Still, I bought the core books because I'm a fan of checking out rules systems and seeing what I might want to use/steal/tweak...and I also bought a bunch of the books that would make for good source material for my West End Games Star Wars campaigns, like the Clone Wars book since West End lost the license before any prequel material could be made/released for the D6 game. (Whether that is a good or bad thing is open for discussion.)
I am curious where you got your count for seven Star Wars RPGs though. Are you counting each edition?
West End had 1st, 2nd and 2nd Edition Revised books...but really, the "new editions" just built up and improved on the prior edition. I don't recall having to drastically alter my understanding of the D6 rules when a new edition came out...unlike D&D 2nd Edition to 3rd Edition or from 3rd Edition to 4th Edition.
WotC had a D20 Edition and then a revised D20 Edition. Again, I don't remember any drastic changes between the two, but I only played it a little so I could be mistaken.
WotC then released Saga Edition which was quite a bit different.
Now we have Fantasy Flight releasing their version.
I really only consider that four different Star Wars RPGs, but I could see where someone might consider each edition to be a separate game.
Is there a Star Wars RPG that I'm missing in the list?
I always love to talk games!
=)
-Chris C.
Though I AM trying to get as many of the Lord of the Rings (hex) figures that I can - again, if you want to get rid of them, I'll be glad to buy them from you if we can find an agreeable price. But only because I intend to PLAY with them. Unfortunately I was VERY unimpressed with the latest Lord of the Rings figures. :( ***
I've been a die hard Heroclix fan since I just happened to be at my local game store when the first set, Inifinity Challenge, released in 2002.
I was always loved the idea of tactical miniatures games and I did play a few games of Warhammer 40k and Battletech that my friends had, but I was just not interested in assembly, painting or terrain building. So I stayed out of them.
Then Mage Knight came out. Prepainted figures almost pulled me in, but I still didn't like the idea of messing with tape measures and the need to get terrain to really complete the effect.
Then we got Heroclix...painted figures...small rulebooks...no charts or a lot of flipping for data...and gridded maps. Wait...I have a Speed of 6 so that lets me know I can move 6 squares? I'm down! =)
I bought a starter and a few boosters on release day, went home, cracked them open, skimmed the rules and then RUSHED back to the store before they closed and bought the rest of their stock! That's how quickly and completely Wizkids corrupted my soul.
I've played Star Trek Tactics once. It's a fun game. But then I like the Heroclix rules set. Although I really bought a bunch of these to use with Star Fleet Battles & Federation Commander skirmish games. Again, I HATE the hobby (assembly/painting) side of games. I just want to have my pieces and play the darn game. So Heroclix has given me a limited selection of prepainted minis to use for those games outside of the Heroclix rules.
Lord of the Rings (Hex) was fun. I got to play a few times. I have quite a bit of every set except for the last one, Return of the King. Unfortunately, just like with Mage Knight's Nexus closing set, the death of the game was already announced and the product was either never purchased by my game stores or they sold out too fast to die hard fans. I didn't get a fellbeast either. I do have all of the other "big" figures (Sauron, Troll, Treebeard & Balrog).
Lord of the Rings (Heroclix) is fun too. I love the horde/minion rules and the epic campaign rules. I'm also a big fan of compatibility. I like that I COULD mix LotR, Street Fighter, Star Trek, Marvel, DC, Indy, etc. Heroclix if I wanted. Better yet...I only need to learn the basic rules for each of those games once. I played a fun game using all LotR pieces (Legolas, Gandolf, Aragorn, Merry & Pippin I believe) and had a killer tourney. I had to face off against Sauron which was definitely tough, but we seemed to do alright. In the next match, I faced off against a team of Halo Heroclix which was definitely a bit of culture shock...but sword and sorcery trumped technology! =)
But I babble...
In the end, I always have big plans to use all of these minis for large scale army/squad/platoon/company sized games.
Take Star Wars minis for example. I've got the old, award winning, West End Games' Star Wars minis game. I never purchased and painted miniatures for it. Originally I was buying some of those Micro Machine squad minis, but it was VERY hard to track down Stormtrooper squads. Then WotC put out their Star Wars minis game. Woo-hoo! Prepainted minis!
Based on the West End Games' Star Wars RPG: Imperial Sourcebook, I have assembled (as best I can) two complete companies of Imperials from the WotC minis...
Company One: Stormtrooper Infantry Company (180 units)
Platoon 1: Four squads of stormtroopers, each has a heavy weapon trooper. (38 Stormtroopers)
Platoon 2: Four squads of stormtroopers, each has a heavy weapon trooper. (38 Stormtroopers)
Platoon 3: Three squads of stormtroopers, each has a heavy weapon trooper. One squad of stormtroopers, one is riding a repulsor sled. (38 Stormtroopers)
Platoon 4: (Special Forces) Two squads of shadow stormtroopers. Two squads of royal guards (close assault/elite stormtroopers). (38 Stormtroopers)
Command Element: Captain, 4 Lt.'s, 23 additional units (including an 8 man squad of Emperor's Shadow Guard and a Force contingent).
Possible Vehicle Support: TIE Tanks & AT-ST's.
Company Two: Special Terrain/Mechanized Company (180 units)
Platoon 1: Two snowtrooper squads. Two snow trooper squads with heavy repeating blaster. (38 snowtroopers)
Platoon 2: Two snowtrooper squads. Two snow trooper squads with heavy repeating blaster. (38 snowtroopers)
Platoon 3: One sandtrooper squad. One sandtrooper squad with 2 sandtroopers on dewback mounts. One scout trooper squad. One scout trooper squad with 5 speeder bikes. (38 troopers)
Platoon 4: Four squads of Imperial Army troopers. (38 troops)
Command Element: Captain, 4 Lt.'s, and 23 additional units (including two 9-person noghri commando/bodyguard squads).
Attached Vehicles: Three AT-AT's and five AT-ST's.
Additional Possible Vehicle Support: TIE Tanks.
I'd LOVE to see all of this out on the field of battle for a majorly extended game.
***If it shows up cheap at a flea market (and it WILL), I *might* buy it one day, but other than that who cares? Star Wars as an RPG has been done to DEATH!***
Yeah, I'm only missing two books and a handful of premod scenarios from the West End Games version of Star Wars which is by FAR my favorite. Those guys knew how to do it right.
I have most of the WotC D20 books and then some of the Saga books, but they just didn't wow me. Part of the reason is that it is tough to go from a free form system like West End D6 into a rigid level/class-based system like D20/Saga. It tends to crimp my character building style. Still, I bought the core books because I'm a fan of checking out rules systems and seeing what I might want to use/steal/tweak...and I also bought a bunch of the books that would make for good source material for my West End Games Star Wars campaigns, like the Clone Wars book since West End lost the license before any prequel material could be made/released for the D6 game. (Whether that is a good or bad thing is open for discussion.)
I am curious where you got your count for seven Star Wars RPGs though. Are you counting each edition?
West End had 1st, 2nd and 2nd Edition Revised books...but really, the "new editions" just built up and improved on the prior edition. I don't recall having to drastically alter my understanding of the D6 rules when a new edition came out...unlike D&D 2nd Edition to 3rd Edition or from 3rd Edition to 4th Edition.
WotC had a D20 Edition and then a revised D20 Edition. Again, I don't remember any drastic changes between the two, but I only played it a little so I could be mistaken.
WotC then released Saga Edition which was quite a bit different.
Now we have Fantasy Flight releasing their version.
I really only consider that four different Star Wars RPGs, but I could see where someone might consider each edition to be a separate game.
Is there a Star Wars RPG that I'm missing in the list?
I always love to talk games!
=)
-Chris C.
Michael Taylor
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> I've been a die hard Heroclix fan since I just happened to be at my local game store when the first set, Inifinity Challenge, released in 2002.
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> I was always loved the idea of tactical miniatures games and I did play a few games of Warhammer 40k and Battletech that my friends had, but I was just not interested in assembly, painting or terrain building. So I stayed out of them.
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> I was always loved the idea of tactical miniatures games and I did play a few games of Warhammer 40k and Battletech that my friends had, but I was just not interested in assembly, painting or terrain building. So I stayed out of them.
>
Yeah, I did wind up learning to paint, but I'm much happier paying other people to paint for me!
I did play HeroClix a few times and liked it well enough, but if I'm going to spend that kind of time, I'd rather just play a superhero RPG and play my OWN hero!
I did play HeroClix a few times and liked it well enough, but if I'm going to spend that kind of time, I'd rather just play a superhero RPG and play my OWN hero!
> Then Mage Knight came out. Prepainted figures almost pulled me in, but I still didn't like the idea of messing with tape measures and the need to get terrain to really complete the effect.
>
Yeah, that was another that just made me think, why not play an RPG instead?
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> I've played Star Trek Tactics once. It's a fun game. But then I like the Heroclix rules set. Although I really bought a bunch of these to use with Star Fleet Battles & Federation Commander skirmish games. Again, I HATE the hobby (assembly/painting) side of games. I just want to have my pieces and play the darn game. So Heroclix has given me a limited selection of prepainted minis to use for those games outside of the Heroclix rules.
>
I liked it alot - especially with the "Real Tactics" modification. I never got into Star Fleet Battles - it just seemed too much for me to handle, but Tactics plays in just the right amount of time with just the right amount of detail.
> Lord of the Rings (Hex) was fun. I got to play a few times. I have quite a bit of every set except for the last one, Return of the King. Unfortunately, just like with Mage Knight's Nexus closing set, the death of the game was already announced and the product was either never purchased by my game stores or they sold out too fast to die hard fans. I didn't get a fellbeast either. I do have all of the other "big" figures (Sauron, Troll, Treebeard & Balrog).
>
I'm still looking for a Fell Beast, a Balrog and a Mordor Troll. I haven't managed to play yet, but a guy who plays Star Wars miniatures with me is also a fan and we're planning to try a game sometime!
> Lord of the Rings (Heroclix) is fun too. I love the horde/minion rules and the epic campaign rules. I'm also a big fan of compatibility. I like that I COULD mix LotR, Street Fighter, Star Trek, Marvel, DC, Indy, etc. Heroclix if I wanted. Better yet...I only need to learn the basic rules for each of those games once. I played a fun game using all LotR pieces (Legolas, Gandolf, Aragorn, Merry & Pippin I believe) and had a killer tourney. I had to face off against Sauron which was definitely tough, but we seemed to do alright. In the next match, I faced off against a team of Halo Heroclix which was definitely a bit of culture shock...but sword and sorcery trumped technology! =)
>
I've heard that the new Lord of the Rings game is good, but I just didn't like the figures enough.
I don't really see why I would ever WANT to mix and match genres though! ;)
I don't really see why I would ever WANT to mix and match genres though! ;)
>
> Take Star Wars minis for example. I've got the old, award winning, West End Games' Star Wars minis game. I never purchased and painted miniatures for it. Originally I was buying some of those Micro Machine squad minis, but it was VERY hard to track down Stormtrooper squads. Then WotC put out their Star Wars minis game. Woo-hoo! Prepainted minis!
>
I've never played the West End Miniature game - I have it, but I've never liked that system much, though I've heard it plays well.
But I really like the Star Wars Miniature rules, and we usually play a big battle at the local game convention. I'm planning on doing the Battle of the Plains if I can get enough Naboo Soldiers!
But I really like the Star Wars Miniature rules, and we usually play a big battle at the local game convention. I'm planning on doing the Battle of the Plains if I can get enough Naboo Soldiers!
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> I'd LOVE to see all of this out on the field of battle for a majorly extended game.
>
>
Cool! I'd like to see that! I know a guy who does a Phantom Menace Arena battle with 300 Gungans against 300 Droids! That's the kind of game I want to do!
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> Yeah, I'm only missing two books and a handful of premod scenarios from the West End Games version of Star Wars which is by FAR my favorite. Those guys knew how to do it right.
>
I love the background material, but could never get into the system.
Which ones are you missing? I might have extras - I plan to re-inventory my collection real soon. I made a checklist and posted it on-line recently too.
Which ones are you missing? I might have extras - I plan to re-inventory my collection real soon. I made a checklist and posted it on-line recently too.
> I have most of the WotC D20 books and then some of the Saga books, but they just didn't wow me. Part of the reason is that it is tough to go from a free form system like West End D6 into a rigid level/class-based system like D20/Saga. It tends to crimp my character building style. Still, I bought the core books because I'm a fan of checking out rules systems and seeing what I might want to use/steal/tweak...and I also bought a bunch of the books that would make for good source material for my West End Games Star Wars campaigns, like the Clone Wars book since West End lost the license before any prequel material could be made/released for the D6 game. (Whether that is a good or bad thing is open for discussion.)
>
Yeah, the d20 system blows ass. But I like the source material. I'm actually in the process of converting it to my current favorite Sci-Fi system (http://www.bashrpg.com/scifi.html) but that's a BIG project.
I'm actually loving the animated Clone Wars show (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_The_Clone_Wars_(2008_TV_series), so I'm alot more open to the prequel era. I hope someone starts making new minaitures!
I'm actually loving the animated Clone Wars show (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_The_Clone_Wars_(2008_TV_series), so I'm alot more open to the prequel era. I hope someone starts making new minaitures!
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> I am curious where you got your count for seven Star Wars RPGs though. Are you counting each edition?
>
Yes. Each time I had to pay for a new book! :)
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> Is there a Star Wars RPG that I'm missing in the list?
>
Nope, that pretty much covers them all!
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