Re: Porting interactive modules to Karma

[Bryan Berry]

Alexandro,  

I am aware of that bug. It is more of a bug w/ the testing suite than w/ SVG. I don't think you will find a problem w/ it in actual use.

The SVG tests pass on Chrome.

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Alexandro Colorado <j...@openoffice.org> wrote:

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Peter Gijsels <peter....@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 7:54 PM, Alexandro Colorado <j...@openoffice.org> wrote:
>> On 4/12/10, Peter Gijsels <peter....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Chris, Alexandro,
>>>
>>> I will try my best to support you guys if you want to start using
>>> karma. I can't however promise that I will be able to spend lots of
>>> time on it, since I am currently working full-time at my day job.
>>
>> Is there developers that have done this modules with Karma, they could
>> help us build our first modules.
>
> I ported one lesson.
>
>>
>>> You can clone the repository from:
>>> git://git.olenepal.org/karma/karma
>>>
>>> In the lessons subdirectory there are a number of example lessons that
>>> the team in Nepal ported from squeak. I think they are a good starting
>>> point to get a feel of what karma can do for you.
>>
>> Are there tutorials on how they ported those?
>
> I am not aware of any tutorials.
>
> Here are some blog post from bryan that might be helpful:
> Introduction to karma.js
> http://karmaeducation.org/2009/12/14/an-introduction-to-karma-js/

Hi I check out the test, and performed the QUnit test using
Firefox/3.6.3, I had some issues with SVG. Not sure if this is because
of the library or just something I did wrong while the test was
running.
Specifically these ones:
Karma_makeCollection svg load (1,3,4)
Karma_makeCollection localized svg load (1,2,3)

I have ran the demo without major issues AFAICT. I will keep running
these tests.

> Comparing HTML 5 Canvas and SVG
> http://karmaeducation.org/2009/12/17/karma-tutorial-part-ii-comparing-html-5-canvas-and-svg/
> This article, Digging into Inkscape
> http://karmaeducation.org/2009/12/17/tutorial-iii-building-a-geography-lesson/
> JavaScript and SVG
> http://karmaeducation.org/2009/12/17/tutorial-iii-the-adventure-continues-javascript-and-svg/
>
>>
>>> If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask them. You can cc the
>>> karma mailing list: kar...@googlegroups.com
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Bryan Berry <br...@olenepal.org> wrote:
>>>> Chris, Alexandro,
>>>>
>>>> I think it is a great idea to work together on moving content into
>>>> Karma. Unfortunately, there is somewhat of gap in management of the
>>>> project. I don't have much time these days to work on Karma as I am
>>>> trying to get back into the corporate IT world. Peter Gijsels, a
>>>> really top-notch engineer, will start working on the project full-time
>>>> come early June. He is working on the project right now but only in
>>>> his free time.
>>>>
>>>> I really believe that HTML5 is the future of educational software because:
>>>> 1) it is really the only portable software stack across different devices.
>>>> 2) the majority of software developers these days are actually web
>>>> developers. I believe this is especially true in developing nations
>>>> such as Mexico and Nepal.
>>>>
>>>> Karma is not a complex piece of software. It is only a set of helpers
>>>> to ease working w/ HTML 5.
>>>>
>>>> I can't speak for Peter's time, but I really hope there can be
>>>> collaboration w/ OLE Mexico on developing educational software.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Chris Rowe <ch...@ole.org> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Bryan,
>>>>> When I was talking to Alexandro about the resources they had and their
>>>>> desire to  rewrite them based on open standards I immediately thought of
>>>>> Karma. If there is anything you can do to help them get started that
>>>>> would
>>>>> be great. They have a technical team so they should be able to bring
>>>>> something to the table as well.
>>>>> Alexandro,
>>>>> Bryan started the Karma project so he should be able to point you in the
>>>>> right direction at least. Is there any chance you could get any original
>>>>> source files, even just artwork, text, or media files would be a great
>>>>> place
>>>>> to start from.
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Alexandro Colorado <j...@openoffice.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi I am from OLE Mexico and we have a projects which holds many
>>>>>> interactive modules done mainly in JAVA and FLASH, there is over 400
>>>>>> interactive modules in the site http://www.encicloabierta.org/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We looked at the Karma project and I think is a good opportunity to do
>>>>>> some exchange and see if we can do some collaboration into porting
>>>>>> this 'binary' modules into a more open standard implementation like
>>>>>> the Karma framework.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This will help us localize the modules much easier, as well as reduce
>>>>>> the machine resources to run this modules.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please let us know if there is a chance to collaborate and improve
>>>>>> OLE's educational repository.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Alexandro Colorado
>>>>>> OpenOffice.org Español
>>>>>> http://es.openoffice.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Alexandro Colorado
>> OpenOffice.org Español
>> http://es.openoffice.org
>>
>

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Alexandro Colorado
OpenOffice.org Español
http://es.openoffice.org

[Bryan Berry]

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Alexandro Colorado <j...@openoffice.org> wrote:

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 2:43 AM, Bryan Berry <br...@olenepal.org> wrote:
> Alexandro,
> I am aware of that bug. It is more of a bug w/ the testing suite than w/
> SVG. I don't think you will find a problem w/ it in actual use.

ok thanks that's good to know.

> The SVG tests pass on Chrome.

Since you mentioned other browsers. What about Opera 10.2 (and other browsers)

Haven't tested Opera. I can tell you that they won't work on any version of IE because the lessons use .ogg files for audio.

Would like to test Opera but it is enough of a challenge to test and debug for Firefox and Chrome at this point