B-14 question?

[Ronald Kalf]

1D-1M; 2C-3C: 4 cards in M, good long clubs; strong, forcing.

How strong can 3C be? With 12+ I‘d bid 1D-2C, right?

I could understand 3D as such, because 1D?2D denies 4crd M, but 2C does not.

3D and 3M: Gameforce; emphasis on honours in the suit of the jump. Why? I vaguely remember something about 1m-1M; 2R-3M where I suggested long, strong M, but I can‘t find the post and replies.

[Fred.]

How strong can 3C be?

      2C with a major suit rebid promises strong clubs, which I

would take as at least 5 topped by the A or K and 2 other

honors.   Can "good" clubs here be weaker than the "strong"

clubs in the immediate 2C?  I don't know.  Sometimes EK's

"good" seems to mean "strong:", but in other cases, I'm

not so sure.  Anyhow, if "good" can be a weaker suit than

"strong", responder can have 12+ HCP.

Emphasis on honors it the suit of the jump.  Why?

     Why not?  With a 5c non-descript M, responder can

force with 2M, perhaps taking a stab at 3NT over 3C with

10+ HCP.  With anything else non-descript, responder can

force with 2D.  I think, in general, second round jumps by 

responder should be purish, showing a concentration of

strength in the suit(s) bid by responder and at least mild 

slam intent.

Fred.

[dj_91311 Los Angeles]

Please note the semicolon after, “good, long clubs; strong …”

I don’t think the bid shows both good clubs and strong clubs. Recall that 1C — 1M — 2C — 2X — 2NT = Balanced 18 HCP.