A 2 club opening.

[jerome keslin]

In KSU it states that 

2c  -  2d

2nt                 

shows 23-24.

Would the group open 2c with only 22 points intending to rebid 2nt after a 2d response, with the following hand?

AKx

Kx

AKxxx

AJx

The hand had no decent spots.

Thanks,

Jerome.

[Adam Wildavsky]

I see nowhere in KSU stating a 23-24 requirement. By implication it's at least a decent 22, since a 2N opening is:

20-21 points (not a "bad 20" - too many queens, honors in short suits; treat a "bad 22" as 21)

This hand has 22.95 CCCC, so I'd open 2c.

I always try to post a hand's CCCC when discussing evaluation. It saves the readers from having to look it up (or calculate it) themselves.

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The 5th card in a suit headed by AK is always a good spot!

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[jerome keslin]

Hi Adam,

In the version of KSU which I downloaded from the Bridge world site, there is a small section on Strong Opening bids.

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[Fred.]

A 2NT opening would have a similar problem facing a hand 

which would respond 2D.   Though responder might raise

to 3NT on a queen and a jack,  you might make it.

But, with 75% of the controls in the deck  it's  also a hand 

which might roll a small slam facing a king and some

quacks.  I wouldn't even consider opening 1H unless 

desperate to avoid a minus. 

2C gives you a better upside for about the same downside

as 2NT.

Fred.

[Adam Wildavsky]

You’re right, Jerome. The version I linked to is the same, I just didn’t read carefully enough. That means there’s an inconsistency that I’d not noticed before!

In any case, I’d still open this one 2c. 

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[Fred.]

I think we both patched it up on reading.  By the time I got

to the 2nd period under 2C, I'd already rebid 2NT with 22,

so I didn't look at the low end of the range, and, I suspect,

neither did you for the same reason.

Fred.