US plane that attacked VZ boat disguised as civilian aircraft

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kan...@aol.com

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Jan 13, 2026, 8:51:35 PM (3 days ago) Jan 13
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https://www.theguardian.com/law/2026/jan/13/us-aircraft-attack-suspected-drug-boat-report-civilian-plane

Uh, I know this won't matter to Trump, his minions or BK and the other low knowledge MAGA folks. But this is a war crime, plane (sic) and simple. 
I predict that nothing will come of this. It will go into the very large basket of the Trump admin's violations all kinds of laws, treaties, and norms of international behavior. And the press will forget about it in.............too late; it's over. 

kan...@aol.com

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Jan 13, 2026, 8:57:45 PM (3 days ago) Jan 13
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This act is an example in international law of "perfidy":
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In the context of international law, the International Committee of the Red Cross defines perfidy as “acts inviting the confidence of an adversary to lead him to believe he is entitled to, or is obliged to grant, protection under the rules of international humanitarian law applicable in armed conflict, with intent to betray that confidence.” It lists examples such as pretending to surrender, faking wounds or illness, or “feigning civilian or non-combatant status.”

And there you have it. This one lands on Hegseth's desk, and by extension, Trump's. 

Brian Kegerreis

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Jan 14, 2026, 1:04:42 PM (2 days ago) Jan 14
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So...
We don't know what airplane it was or what kind of airplane it was or how it was disguised but by golly Trump did it for sure, and its a crime.....


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Jan 14, 2026, 1:14:12 PM (2 days ago) Jan 14
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On Wed, Jan 14, 2026 at 12:04 PM Brian Kegerreis <bkege...@gmail.com> wrote:
So...
We don't know what airplane it was or what kind of airplane it was or how it was disguised but by golly Trump did it for sure, and its a crime.....

"I know this won't matter to Trump, his minions or BK and the other low knowledge MAGA folks"

Right again. 

Brian Kegerreis

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Jan 14, 2026, 2:35:04 PM (2 days ago) Jan 14
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Maybe if we had more than a UFO story

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GMoney

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Jan 14, 2026, 2:57:06 PM (2 days ago) Jan 14
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On Wed, Jan 14, 2026 at 1:35 PM Brian Kegerreis <bkege...@gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe if we had more than a UFO story

No, it wouldn't matter. 

You, like so many Americans today, are a lost cause.  

Brian Kegerreis

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Jan 14, 2026, 3:46:15 PM (2 days ago) Jan 14
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Ok whatever 
Yes its against the rules of war to do what is alleged to have been done... by an unknown aircraft in an unknown manner by anonymous sources.
No reasonable person should be worked up over this story. 
I heard it from a friend who hesrd it from a friend who heard it from another you've been messing around might be good song writing but its not newsworthy. 

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kan...@aol.com

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Jan 14, 2026, 8:07:05 PM (2 days ago) Jan 14
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Sources said the Air Force maintains a fleet of crewed aircraft painted to appear as though they are civilian planes. Such aircraft would be useful in surveillance and reconnaissance missions and using it in such a way would not violate the laws of war.

So, are far as I can tell, Brian, you aren't whining about the act. You're whining because you want to play the "fake news" card. Well that's pretty Trumpian of you. If the story isn't to your liking, shoot the messenger. But you're not going to get Hegseth or other military people to say, "Yes, we paint Air Force craft to look like civilian craft". But it has been reported by "sources". Now, I know that "source" is another word for "whistleblower". The only difference is who's ox is getting gored. If you like what's being reported it's a whistleblower. If you don't like it, it's an "anonymous source". That way you can call it fake and move on. But nobody in the AF has denied the allegation. Let's call that an established fact. Now we're dealing with a war crime, plain and simple. How about commenting on THAT, and skipping the UFO allegations. It makes you sound like a Trump apologist or sycophant; and we've got more than enough of those. And WHY should this story not merit attention? Are you happy with the US committing war crimes in YOUR name? I feel sorry for you if you do. What I don't get is why they bothered. The boats and people they killed weren't going to be able to do anything if they did recognize aircraft as military. The result would have been the same. And the US isn't denying that we actually did the shooting. So committing this perfidy is just plain stupid. But it's still a war crime. It's part of a pattern of TRUMP and his minions acting repeatedly like there are no consequences for ANY act they take. Listen to Stephen Miller talk like the entire world is ours to take pieces of without restrictions. It's a matter of power/ability and nothing else. This is a small example among many larger ones. But unlike other things, Trump didn't just talk about it. It was an action that is a crime. 

But I can read between the lines, BK. When you say, "Whatever", you're agreeing that something happened that should not have. But as I said, your "anonymous sources", in a better light, are whistleblowers. But any REASONABLE person wouldn't expect the gov't to just 'fess up to this. It would take a real idiot to think that.

Brian Kegerreis

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Jan 15, 2026, 6:40:40 AM (yesterday) Jan 15
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I'm not whining at all. Im just pointing that this story doesn't even approach journalism. Maybe it's true maybe it isn't. Can't tell from the bird cage liner you posted. 

kan...@aol.com

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Jan 15, 2026, 4:33:45 PM (yesterday) Jan 15
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Well, Brian, a 30 second Google search turns up this article. If you actually cared about FACTS, rather than just whining (caviling is a better word for it) and reflexively disputing what G or I post, you could have found this yourself. But I'll spoon feed you some FACTS, from a very reliable source dedicated to military issues:


This is your daily "fuck you". Kind of NOT a UFO story or bird cage liner. The military would have to confirm the exact craft used in this particular mission. However, the existence of civilian appearing aircraft in the US military is NOT a UFO, or a unicorn, or bird cage liner. They will claim that such craft are used for surveillance or spy work. But this article makes it clear that weaponry can be installed to fire from INSIDE many craft. 
Here's the reality. Here's the FACTS. Now you can cobble together a different bullshit story to defend this admin. 
As for your original UFO crap, the story was reported in more than a dozen sites. Only a Trump sycophant would claim that they're all posting "fake news". Are you there now? 

B Keg

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Jan 15, 2026, 6:45:36 PM (yesterday) Jan 15
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And in other news you can mount a DSHK on a Toyota pickup truck, you can strap a shotgun under your trench coat. 
So which one if you gad a Toyita or s Trench coat so we can anonymously accuse you of carrying these weapons......

Be nice, even when you don't want to!


kan...@aol.com

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Jan 15, 2026, 7:37:50 PM (yesterday) Jan 15
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That was a Hell of a cannonball, Brian; the result of a FWT going off the deep end. 
Your arguments are losing air faster than the Hindenburg, and going up in flames just as fast. 
The laws about guns on person, guns mounted on Toyotas don't pertain to what we're talking about. 
But thanks for admitting that your points are full of shit. No other reason for such shitty responses. 

So far the FACTS are that the USAF DOES have  civilian marked aircraft. Also a FACT is that weaponry can be hidden on such craft. 
And "whistleblowers" tell us that such craft were at the boat attacks. 
Now the military can certainly issue plausible denials, and apply plenty of spin. They already are putting out BS about the disguised planes having military transponders operating, like that is something that a small drug boat could figure out. Also, said planes reportedly had USAF tail markings, like THAT is something that can be seen at night. See how spin goes? 
"Hey, we had otherly  painted craft operating; but they had military transponders and USAF tail markings. So, not a crime". 
There, I can work from Goebbels' playbook, too. Not as well as you; but I can manage. 
And Hegseth/Trump will spin and deny and LIE; and nothing will come of this. 
That doesn't mean that a war crime didn't occur. It just falls under the current umbrella of Trump/Hegseth/Miller notion that they can do ANYTHING they want, anywhere, any time. Per Trump's own words, only his mind/morality limit his actions. And face it, neither of those have much heft. 
My opinion is that two war crimes have already been witnessed, this one and the shooting of sailors in jeopardy. 
My second opinion is that no charges will come from these. AND, no charges for future breaches of international law. AND there will be such events. My opinion. Facts come later. 

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