Flu outbreak at air force base in Texas

[kan...@aol.com]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2026/06/18/flu-sickens-some-160-troops-lackland-air-force-base-texas/

So this happened because Hegseth lifted mandates for armed forces to get flu vaccines. 

Part of "strategy" from Trump And RFK. 

Nicely done; reversing strategy that dates back to just after WWII. 

And this wasn't even at the height of flu season. Can't wait until next winter. 

Maybe they can put the bunks closer together at military facilities. Saves on space, etc. 

But moving the bunks 6 feet apart stopped epidemics of severe meningitis decades ago.

These clowns don't belong in charge of a pet shelter, let along something like the military. 

But hey, according to Pete, the military will be more prepared and have more "freedom". What bullshit. They enlisted in an organization that pretty much dictates how one's life is lived (or lost). 

The flu epidemic of 1919 severely harmed US military readiness. But I guess that lesson was lost on these idiots. Along with the Fort Ord meningitis outbreaks. 

But I'm sure we can find a way to blame Obama/Biden for this. After all, Trump is never wrong and never loses. 

[Brian Kegerreis]

Lackland is a training base full of enlistees doing thier basic training. Its not uncommon for the flu to spread easily. I caught the flu which turned into pneumonia and ended up in a coma in basic training. 

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[kan...@aol.com]

And THAT'S why vaccination is a good idea. 

Tell Hegseth and RFK. These guys are numbnuts. 

Any time people get herded into environments like this, illnesses spread. Think about the ICE detainees. 

[Brian Kegerreis]

How long does a vaccination take to vlbecome effective?

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[kan...@aol.com]

A couple of weeks to take effect. If there is a serious outbreak that threatens a lot of deaths, or threatens military readiness, etc, then people at risk can take a flu drug such as Tamiflu to prevent getting ill, until the vaccine takes effect. This is sometimes done in a family situation where a person is at risk for serious complications, such as a person on chemo or someone with emphysema, etc. They can take Tamiflu until their vaccine takes effect. 

Hope that explains what you asked. 

[B Keg]

On monday everyone shows up for basic training on Tuesday they get haircuts ID and uniforms. On Wednesday they get flu shots by the following week half the class is down with the flu....

Just saying 

Be nice, even when you don't want to!

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[kan...@aol.com]

No; if there's an outbreak then Tamiflu can be dispensed. And they quarantine the ill. Put them all in the same barrack(s) and the non-infected in other barracks. Not rocket science. It can be done. It's been done with meningitis outbreaks at military barracks. 

Or they can do it the RFK/Hegseth way; do nothing at all and let the chips fall where they may. After all, they're all WARRIORS according to Pete. And according to RFK, good health is better than vaccinations. Problem solved. 

[GMoney]

I prefer the flu to Tamiflu.

I will never take the latter again....ever. 

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[kan...@aol.com]

What happened when you took it G? 

Truth be told, Tamiflu and the older flu treatments don't do a huge amount. Average is that they shorten the illness by 1-2 days. However, they can ease the symptoms as well. What they do REALLY well is prevent getting the flu. This is important in places like nursing homes, and I suppose military bases. Also, the preventive dose is 1/2 of the treatment dose. 

[GMoney]

On Tue, Jun 23, 2026 at 5:25 PM 'kan...@aol.com' via Kansas City Diversity Coalition <kansas-city-div...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

What happened when you took it G? 

Truth be told, Tamiflu and the older flu treatments don't do a huge amount. Average is that they shorten the illness by 1-2 days. However, they can ease the symptoms as well. What they do REALLY well is prevent getting the flu. This is important in places like nursing homes, and I suppose military bases. Also, the preventive dose is 1/2 of the treatment dose. 

I felt like a different person.

Jittery, on edge.....felt like my heart was racing. Just very uncomfortable after just the one dose. Never took another. Let the flu play out. Not worth it for me.  

[Brian Kegerreis]

That's good to know. I usually wait to long to go to the doctor when I am sick ao I have never had Tamiflu, glad I havent now. 

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[GMoney]

On Wed, Jun 24, 2026 at 10:19 AM Brian Kegerreis <bkege...@gmail.com> wrote:

That's good to know. I usually wait to long to go to the doctor when I am sick ao I have never had Tamiflu, glad I havent now. 

Well you should follow your doctor's advice, not mine.

I know plenty of people who have taken it and were just fine, and found that it helped. 

Individual results may vary.....

[kan...@aol.com]

So answering both G and BK- G, you're right. Side effects very from  person to person. But it can mitigate symptoms. For instance, if BK was still driving his semi, Tamiflu might let you work sooner by 1-2 days. Could be worth it. We gave it to my grandson when he got the flu. It brought his fever and generally crappy feeling under control in about one day. Instead of not eating and feeling really crappy, he was able to drink fluids and feel decent. It was worth taking it for sure. 

So it's usefulness is all over the map. When I saw people in the ER I discussed taking it; but I didn't oversell its usefulness. I also sometimes offered it to partners of the sick people as a preventive. It's really effective for that purpose.