Icannot really add much to what you said Alan. Other than that Rene Lamiere was in fact real and that only her meeting Doc Roe was a result of creative liberty. Here's an article from a sergeant who witnessed her death: -angel-oof-bastogne-renee-lemaire/
Oh, and while I'm out of lurkedom: thank you for reviewing BoB! I've watched the show years ago and now I'm seeing it again and in a completely different way.
I wouldn't call this my favorite episode - but it is definitely one that I think about the most when I think about the overall BoB story.
I think telling the story from Roe's point of view was the best way to tell it - you see medics in various war movies but never really get to know them (Giovanni Ribisi in "SPR" notwithstanding). They are just dudes with red/white armbands who go in to pull the injured to safety. So I think Roe's POV is a very important one.
Shane Taylor is very affecting as Roe. I like that his accent isn't over-the-top cajun (it would have been obnoxious if it had been).
We're in the home stretch at our house - we watched "The Breaking Point" a couple nights ago and should receive the last DVD from Netflix in the mail today. This is my husband's first time watching the miniseries and I can tell that he likes it because normally he hems and huhs about watching something (or worse - falls asleep while watching), but whenever I say "you ready for Band of Brothers?" he comes right over to the TV, sits down to watch and never falls asleep.
Nice Rosencrantz analogy! I love that play and the play that inspires its dialogue, "Waiting for Godot." I guess I'm just not into the whole "what was real" part of BoB because I assume in most historical fiction that characters are sometime amalgams of a few people. But I also understand that point of view. I love this episode but I love "The Breaking Point" even more. They tend to run together in my head so I won't reference any parts of the plot in case it is a spoiler. Plot device or not, I thought the nurse and the church was a respite for Roe and for the audiences senses during this episode. It is also another episode that shows how much we all take our access to chocolate for granted.
I have been waiting for you to get to this episode, Alan.
I avoided this series during it's initial run. While I knew that the battle scenes would be extremely well-done--as in Saving Private Ryan--I was afraid that the characters would be flat, Olde Timey WWII movie cliches--as in Saving Private Ryan.
Some basic cable channel ran a marathon a couple years back, and I ended up turning it on just for some background noise. The first episode I "saw" was Crossroads, but it did nothing for me, and I barely watched it. Then Bastgone aired and five minutes in, I was hooked. The series went from background noice to foreground and I watched striaght throught he end. The next week I bought the box set and watched it from the begining.
Because Roe was my entry point to the series, I always focused on his character during whatever limited screen time he got. One of my favorite Roe moments is from Crossroads when he berates Winters for not knowing how much morphine was given after the friendly fire indecent. "You should know! You're officers! You're grownups!"
The scene of Roe going back into town -- supposedly for a "hot meal" at Winters' orders -- and finding it getting shelled to hell is amazing.
So much chaos expressed in a few quick shots.
An explosion behind the church, and then the flaming jeep rolling by with no warning and no follow up.
I do not recall much fondness for this episode when I watched this this ep when it aired. It was a bit of a let down because I expected "Battle of the Buldge" hand to hand, foxhole to foxhole blood and guts and they gave us the medic and chocolat. I felt like Lip during the firefight when he was back with Roe saying "I should be up on the line"
Given that, I really enjoyed rewatching this episode. Now that I know all the guys, their small interactions are very enjoyable to watch. Also, the small moments take on more importants since you know some of the guys are not going to be around for long.
I like when the General (I think) asks for a status and they tell him how bad things are and all he says is "hold the line".
-- Millhouse
I agree, the depiction of the cold and snow was so well done through both visuals and sound. (I thought the sound was especially good, it sounded like a snowy forest). The snow was a powerful visual tool in that it represented both beauty and death. Most of all, I love the image of Doc Roe crouched against that tree in the snow and fog, waiting in the beautiful Ardennes for something awful to happen.
I suspect officers were required to shave. Were the enlisted men exempt? Any military historians out there know the answer? It seems a silly rule in those cold, freezing circumstances.
I love where Babe falls in a German foxhole.
I finally picked up on Perconte's fastidiousness this episode and laughed out loud at
Perconte [to wounded Sisk]: Awh, Skinny, you got blood all over my trousers.
Sisk [after a long scream of pain and through gritted teeth]: I'm real sorry Frank.
I found it so shocking when Harry Welsh got hit. The scene starts off a little light and humorous, "we're in a dell," plus its Christmas Eve, plus it's a group of officers. I wasn't expecting the Germans to really start shelling then. But they did. Poor Harry.
The scene with bombed out church gutted me because I thought of not just the nurses, but the dead wounded men, Sisk and Gordon presumably among them.
This is the episode that I officially fell in love with Band of Brothers (and Easy Company). But Breaking Point is my favourite far and away. It strikes an emotional chord in me that very few other pieces of television do.
I can't pick a favorite episode yet until I'm all the way through the series, but I thought Shane Taylor did an excellent job in this episode. One thing that particularly struck me is how ghostly he looks in certain shots - the contrast between his very dark hair and his incredibly pale skin is quite striking.
I believe History Channel bleeps some of the profanities, but in my brief viewing of their versions, I haven't noticed anything significant in the way of cutting out story. (That's one of the reasons the timeslots are so weird; the episodes are of irregular length to begin with -- most of them running longer than an hour -- and now someone's adding commercials.)
Well, I do love my profanity uncensored, but as long as it's not cutting for time or violence, I'll give it a shot on the History Channel. I can't believe I've never taken the time to watch this before, even though I've meant to for years. Your reviews inspired me, as always. Thanks.
My favorite point in the series, like so many others is about to come, but this was the episode that really made me fall in love with the series. It's probably the most self-contained episode, and sets up one hell of a run.
I have to agree, this episode is the one that made me realize I was watching something special. I like that they gave us just enough Roe before now to pull it off. All I could think about while watching was how lucky I am I've never had to endure anything like this, and just how brave and tough these men were.
Thanks for giving an epilogue to Smokey, since I didn't know how to ask without giving away the fact that he never comes back. Since time can be funny on this, I was worried guys like he and Sisk were still in the church when it was blown up, but to hear that he even got back mobility is welcome news indeed. For some reason his injury stays with me unlike almost any other in the series, maybe because of how it goes through one arm, through him, and out the other arm, or because he had just gotten his machine gun ready and leaned back for water or coffee or something--if his timing had been just a little different, maybe he doesn't get hit. The way he slumps and exhales is just awful...
A question, though: isn't it Liebgott and Martin who have to watch that Pvt. who got shot on patrol writhe around, with Lieb yelling at him to stop moving? I finished last week, so I could be off, but I didn't remember it being Babe.
Much like other posters, this episode and the next have minor parts that bleed together, so while I can remember all the major developments from each one, I'm gonna refrain from mentioning any of the little character moments, lest I spoil.
And a shout-out to Taylor, who carries this episode so well I'm personally offended his IMDb page is so light.
A question, though: isn't it Liebgott and Martin who have to watch that Pvt. who got shot on patrol writhe around, with Lieb yelling at him to stop moving? I finished last week, so I could be off, but I didn't remember it being Babe.
The two actors look similar with their helmets on (at the very least, they're both baby-faced and scrawny), but I believe it's Babe yelling for Julian to stop moving, which is why he's so messed-up after the patrol, and why Roe spends so much of the remainder of the episode trying to cheer him up.
I suspect officers were required to shave.
They weren't required, Winters says in his book, "Beyond Band of Brothers," that Sink preferred his officers to be clean-shaven. Winters did it both to impress his commanding officer, and to show to the men below him that, regardless of how bad things got, Winters expected to survive this.
...culminating in his calling him "Babe" finally. That makes sense. I forgot to mention how much the Hinkel stuff cracks me up but also shows what these guys are dealing with. Yeah, it's kinda funny, but Babe and the other medic still had to run for their lives, and they're laughing about it with the guys later. Great stuff.
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