GAFE Vs Microsoft 365 Preso or datasheet

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Martin Cisneros

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Oct 18, 2013, 12:26:51 PM10/18/13
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Hello,
I need some help. I have a school district who is in the middle of deciding between going GAFE or Microsoft 365. Does anyone have a preso or a data sheet they would like to share as to why you went with GAFE?

Greatly appreciated!

Yours In Tech Ed,
Martin 

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Bjorn Behrendt

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Oct 18, 2013, 12:43:32 PM10/18/13
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It was not that hard a choice.   Just try sharing a document and working together.   GAFE wins hands down.  If you want further proof, then also look at the third party tools, like sites, youtube, google marketplace apps, and chrome webstore.    

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Melinda Waffle

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Oct 18, 2013, 1:12:55 PM10/18/13
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Here are the resources some people shared on this listserv a couple years ago as we were trying to make the same choice - may be a little outdated, but they helped us.  There are three messages I've pasted in the appropriate links below.

Best wishes!
Melinda Waffle
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Calhoun Intermediate School District
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From: Joseph Hartman <jlha...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: Live@edu vs google apps
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Cc: "Curts, Eric" <elc...@northcantonschools.org
>, Chris Franzen <chrisf...@nokomis.k12.il.us>


Here's a final one for you that I put together a while back:

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From: Doug Sawyer <dsa...@bv119.net>
Date: Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: Live@edu vs google apps
To: Sheri <sh...@nsdeagles.org>, "k12ap...@googlegroups.com" <k12ap...@googlegroups.com>


Here is a spreadsheet I found @ http://www.educause.edu/blog/arichard%40messiah.edu/GroupWisevsGoogleAppsforEducat/207169  It also compares Groupwise.  One thing I noticed that's outdated is Gmail box size is now 25GB istead of 7GB.

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From: Curts, Eric <elc...@northcantonschools.org>
Date: Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: Live@edu vs google apps
To: Sheri <sh...@nsdeagles.org>
Cc: "k12ap...@googlegroups.com" <k12ap...@googlegroups.com>


I put our analysis of why we chose Google Apps over Office365 (what used to be called Live@EDU) in a presentation about our Google Apps roll out.  You can find the presentation at:


The presentation is called "Rolling out Google Apps for Education" and the specific slides you will want are 7 through 10.

In short, both offer similar features, but Google Apps is free and Office365 is very expensive (if you want to try to match the features of Google Apps).

Eric




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Kyle Brumbaugh

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Oct 18, 2013, 1:20:09 PM10/18/13
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Thanks for the resources everyone.  I have some research that I did on my own that leads to the same conclusions you all reached in your own way through your documents.  

Thanks again,

Kyle

larowc

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Nov 16, 2013, 8:59:58 AM11/16/13
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Kyle,

Can you post some of your findings? Yours are more up-to-date since you just did the research.
There are schools still looking into this, comparing the two.

Carol LaRow

Kyle Brumbaugh

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Nov 18, 2013, 12:49:41 PM11/18/13
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Hi All,

Here is the matrix I developed to compare feature sets between productivity suites and processes that some of our teachers were using together (Dropbox and Wikispaces) 


Hope this helps...

Kyle



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Bjorn Behrendt

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Nov 18, 2013, 1:03:51 PM11/18/13
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Some other questions I would suggest adding:

1. Do you own your data?  Google Yes, Dropbox No
2. FERPA compliant? Google Yes

Note: It may not be pretty but with App Script some may argue that Google offers a limited database 

Considering the questions you asked I would add Zoho to your list of options. 


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Kyle Brumbaugh

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Nov 18, 2013, 1:12:57 PM11/18/13
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Hi 

We looked at all of the options that teachers were currently using.  While Zoho would add some functionality in some areas, it was not something that we had people on our site using.  The reason for our investigation was to look at what people were using, the functionality of each version and how we could move toward one "productivity work flow solution" for all students and teachers.  The main complaint the students had was that they had to learn multiple workflows because teachers were using a variety of different ways to distribute and collect information.  Our end goal was to minimize number of different ways students were working and collaborating with teachers and their peers.   Based on this process, we selected GAFE because it allowed for the greatest number of collaborative experiences and it had the easiest learning curve. 

Thanks, 

Kyle

Bjorn Behrendt

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Nov 18, 2013, 1:18:49 PM11/18/13
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Oh, I fully agree with GAFE providing the best workflow, thanks for sharing.

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Kevin O'Donnell

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Nov 18, 2013, 5:24:46 PM11/18/13
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That is a very thorough comparison - well done.  I would probably add the Google Drive application that you can download and use like Drop Box in a section comparing the two. 
We went GAFE awhile ago and agree with the other statements as well.  For us it was also based on price - Windows License, Office License, Exchange License, cost to run and maintain server vs all that we got from GAFE and the only real cost being the Postini Archive and discovery.  Couple with the lower cost of the Chromebooks vs Windows machines, and the ease of management of those devices I am not sure why many schools aren't going Google in these economic times.

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