Now trying to get my head around Groups for GAFE
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Randy Damewood
Apr 24, 2012, 11:50:38 AM4/24/12
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Ok here is what I think I understand
As an admin I can make a group, put members in it and depending on the type I can let them work together, share docs, etc. For example: I have group for a school and a principal shares with his teachers.
I know that I can make personal groups - like a group mailing list - would this be what teachers would do for classes?
Then there is google groups- This is the public on (accessed by the black bar) - Is there any use for those in the GAFE world.
Anybody know of a good presentation that explains all this.
This will help me understand as I layout my groups for Google App Directory Sync.
Thanks so much.
RD
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Bjorn Behrendt
Apr 24, 2012, 12:33:30 PM4/24/12
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With the education edition teachers can create their own groups and add the students. The advantage of them doing this is that all the students in the class can then use the class group also. Most teachers will just create a contact group in their gmail, but that cannot be used by the rest of the class.
I don't know about the directory sync, I manually import users and trying very hard to actually get rid of AD in my school.
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On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Randy Damewood <dame...@k12coffee.net> wrote:
Thanks-
Follow up - So if there are any classroom groups or anything, I would have to set those up and then but then I could give a teacher rights or owner ship and then student could subscribe
so english101_3rd and then students subscribe to that group.
The only thing is now Google Apps Directory sync - I guess I would need to put an exception in so that group does not get hosed, correct?
Man, you are the best!
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>>> Bjorn Behrendt <b...@askbj.net> 4/24/2012 11:03 AM >>>
In Gmail you can create a contact group: This is just for that user and*Bjorn Behrendt ~ Never Stop Learning*
not a real group. If the person uses this group for sharing it will put
put in all the users separately as if they typed them in one at a time.
if you have an @gmail.com account you can use: @googlegroups.com: This is
for @gmail.com only and is a way for people to create public listservs.
There is no sharing capability.
In Google Apps Standard:
Groups is basically an administrative only function. That can be used for
sharing groups and school wide (internal) email groups like all.staff or
all.students
In Google Apps Edu
Groups in the edu edition allows for outside email addresses and for people
to sign up to a group. Like a listserv. Sharing will only work for
internal addresses. These can be email groups, and as the administrator
you have more fine tuned controls of who can send and who can receive.
In google Apps where is also Organizations
An organization is a way to break up the settings within GAFE. So if you
want teachers to have chat but not students they you need to separate them
into different Organizations.
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Bjorn Behrendt
Apr 24, 2012, 12:48:45 PM4/24/12
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You may have to enable or install Google Groups for Business from the dashboard (this applies to EDU accounts). That would give teachers access to create groups when they are logged in. The groups they create show up in Groups in the dashboard so I personally made sure to put an indicator on all the groups I create administratively vs ones the teachers create. My convention is "all.<group>".
The Google groups for business will have an email address of <groupname>@yourdomain.com
If you don't want to connect it to AD and just import users I recently created a helper spreadsheet template that make the process of importing, creating groups, creating Orgs and moving everyone to the proper place:
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On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Randy Damewood <dame...@k12coffee.net> wrote:
Well I thought the same thing, about getting rid of ad. Why even put the students in there. The only advantage I see is the group creation and manipulation.
If that is the case and the student can join, how does a teacher account create a group. The only thing I see is Google groups but that is outside of the domain, correct? Or is that the deal they just use the googlegroups.com and then restrict it.
Thanks again, and again ....
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>>> Bjorn Behrendt <b...@askbj.net> 4/24/2012 11:33 AM >>>
With the education edition teachers can create their own groups and add the
students. The advantage of them doing this is that all the students in
the class can then use the class group also. Most teachers will just
create a contact group in their gmail, but that cannot be used by the rest
of the class.
I don't know about the directory sync, I manually import users and trying
very hard to actually get rid of AD in my school.
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