Chromebooks and App servers

[Edward Crist]

Folks

Is anyone out there using Chromebooks to access application servers?

I'm wondering how MS Office served up using VMWare or HyperV would work being accessed from Chromebooks

Thanks!!

Edward Crist

Technology Manager

City Charter High School

201 Stanwix St.

Pittsburgh, PA 15222

(412) 690-2489

(412) 690-2316 fax

www.cityhigh.org

cr...@cityhigh.org

[Bob Clay, 6196448282]

For us the whole reason to use Chromebooks is to ditch Microsoft Products entirely.  However if you must run Windows applications anyway see http://blogs.vmware.com/euc/2014/02/google-chromebook-vmware-horizon-view-windows-applications.html

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[Bernie McCormick]

I'm playing with CB and http://www.stone-ware.com/ HTML5 solution.  As long as your AD is handing out things like printers and mapped drives correctly, it is as good as a terminal server solution, in a dedicated tab experience.  The problem I'm stuck with is our school uses a lot of audio/visual i/o for assistive learnign tech, which kinda falls flat on its face over the wire so far.  Stone has been the best experience i've gotten, but it is still not ready for production for my needs.

For the usual platform stuff (office, adobe cs) it does great!

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Mary McDowell Friends School
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[Ben Dahlin]

+1, and also to get away from local servers/storage.

Ben Dahlin

Technology Coordinator

Mahnomen ISD #432

Go Indians!

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[Edward Crist]

For 12 years and for the foreseeable future, we mandate MS MOS certification classes in our high school.

We also teach Photoshop, as well as Premiere in some electives.

Office and Adobe aren't going anywhere soon.

Edward Crist

Technology Manager

City Charter High School

201 Stanwix St.

Pittsburgh, PA 15222

(412) 690-2489

(412) 690-2316 fax

www.cityhigh.org

cr...@cityhigh.org

[Bob Clay, 6196448282]

We've had Stoneware for years and frankly have been underwhelmed.  We'll have it one more year as we wean off the the few users, and then sayonara Stoneware.  It is simply not worth the money for the product nor the investment in terminal server VMs and CALs.

[Bob Clay, 6196448282]

Photoshop via VMware is really going to suck.  We use local dedicated servers for that and traditional Windows desktops.

[Marcus Twyford]

Anyone have success with Office365?

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/office/forum/office_2010-office_install/chromebooks-and-word/9fd2498f-f9fc-4dc9-a403-05f727f30407

I know there is a limited web based solution....  But not sure to what extent you need the downloaded version... I think, however it may be a $99/yr/seat but not 100%

M Twyford

[Edward Crist]

Office365 still needs full Office for MOS certs

Edward Crist

Technology Manager

City Charter High School

201 Stanwix St.

Pittsburgh, PA 15222

(412) 690-2489

(412) 690-2316 fax

www.cityhigh.org

cr...@cityhigh.org

[Bjorn Behrendt]

I actually have a problem with teaching the high-end industry standard applications in High-School.   I find that while they are powerful and does prepare kids for other positions.  It severely limits them from using the skills outside the assignment.  Too often I come across adults and students who want to do something simple like use a clone stamp tool) and feel that they can't unless they have Photoshop.   I have seen the same thing with AutoCad and Microsoft Office.

If I taught a kid to use SumoPaint in highschool instead of Photoshop for basic digital graphics they could take those skills and use them in other classes and even personally.    P.s. I teach Graphics at the college level so I am pretty proficient in using them.

I love the chromebooks because it is forcing the teaching of skills again rather than applications.   

We are moving to a 1:1 with Chromebooks and keep 1 wired lab that will have Office installed as well as any resource intensive applications.   That said, that lab logs on with a generic user and any files need to be uploaded to the students drive because we no longer give them local storage.

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[Mike Pullen]

I love the chromebooks because it is forcing the teaching of skills again rather than applications.   

+1!

[Edward Crist]

I'm with ya, Bjorn....but.....

Edward Crist

Technology Manager

City Charter High School

201 Stanwix St.

Pittsburgh, PA 15222

(412) 690-2489

(412) 690-2316 fax

www.cityhigh.org

cr...@cityhigh.org

[Edward Crist]

Although I have to say that when we poll grads, there is strong data showing that having the MOS certs gives many of our grads a leg up in getting certain jobs.

Edward Crist

Technology Manager

City Charter High School

201 Stanwix St.

Pittsburgh, PA 15222

(412) 690-2489

(412) 690-2316 fax

www.cityhigh.org

cr...@cityhigh.org

[Mattix-Wand, Gerry]

For our MS Office and Photoshop classes we kept computer labs in those classrooms.  I'd like to see our MS Office stuff go away, but we are tied to our junior college for dual credit and they insist that we teach MS applications on a PC.  Our photoshop is done in our art and graphic arts classes.  They have Mac labs to do the things they need to do (including print).

-gerry

Gerry Mattix-Wand
Director of Educational Technology
East Alton-Wood River H.S.
Wood River, IL 62095
(618) 254-3151 x2555

[Bjorn Behrendt]

Here is another quote of mine that I tend to say a lot:

"We should be teaching what business need to be using and not what they are using."   

A freshmen student is likely to have 4 years of high school, 4 years of college, and 4 years of working their way up the latter before they reach the position that business say they are looking for.   Preparing students for what businesses are looking for now is preparing them to be 12 years behind.

Businesses should be looking to education as what they need to be innovative and not education looking at businesses to dictate what they teach.

Bjorn Behrendt M.Ed ~ Never Stop Learning

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gClassFolders ~ Create Google folders for your class.

[Buddy Pride]

We've been playing with a open source product call Ulteo (http://www.ulteo.com/home/).  It now comes in an HTML5 version and will work on the Chromebooks.  The virtual desktops supports both windows and linux applications (in 1 desktop!!!).  We still  have to do some additional testing, but it has been very promising so far.  -- and FREE!!!!!!!!  We have the Ulteo servers setup in our VMWare environment so no additional hardware was required.

Thanks, Buddy

Buddy Pride, Ed.D.

Director of Curriculum and Technology

South Beloit CUSD 320

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