Chrome devices for teachers - especially flip-style Chromebooks?

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Jesse Thorstad

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Mar 26, 2018, 1:12:13 PM3/26/18
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We plan to provide Chrome devices for many of our teaching staff next fall (going from Macbooks or iMacs). 

There are some nice Chromebase options for those opting for a desktop model, but we're not sure what is great out there for higher-end, flip-screen touch Chromebooks. All seem to have just 11" screens. Are there any larger than that?

Just curious what you all have tried in the high-end, flip-screen touch Chromebook world? Is the flippable screen even worth it? Maybe not if 11" is the biggest it can be.

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Jim Flanagan

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Mar 26, 2018, 2:32:34 PM3/26/18
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Jesse

There was a discussion on Tech-Geeks (a Mail list started by Illinois EdTechs but with people all over on it now) at the end of January.

The discussion is a little long I have excerpted it with all the senders details removed and also all the footers etc. There is a lot about Chromebooks in general but some about teacher/adm,in use of them.  Subscription link to TechGeeks is at the end.

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[tech-geeks] Chromebook models

Jan 29

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Alright, we are starting to research replacing our current student and staff chromebooks. What is everyone finding that they really like and are great to use with students?


Jan 29

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we prefer larger screens and the hp 14 has worked well


Jan 29

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These are the ones we are going with for a second year in a row


https://eduproducts.withgoogle.com/products/3678/acer-chromebook-11-n7-c731-c8ve-nx-gm8aa-001-11-6-inches-black


Jan 30

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We’ve had good luck so far with Lenovo’s n21-22 and now 23.


Jan 30

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We also use Lenovo N22 and 23s for students. We get a good deal on MAXCases, so we put those on the student Cbooks as well. Going great. I'm piloting some Samsung Chromebook Pluses for my teachers, and they're well-liked and performing well.


Jan 30

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We have the ASUS Chromebook C202SA for students and haven't had much trouble (yet). Our administrators are using the ASUS Chromebook Flip C302CA and love it.


Jan 30

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+1 on Lenovo N22-23. I like the built-in handle and built-in flip cam.


Jan 30

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I've had 3 models of Samsung, but Love the ASUS c202's, plan on buying more soon.


Jan 30

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Thinking about Google AUP (Auto Update Policy), the models that you have been discussing have all been around for bit. Do any of these models have a "renewed version" that will extend the AUP further?


We've been using the ASUS C202SA and they have been great. But it's AUP is set for Feb 2021, I don't want to buy that for the class of 2022. The Lenovo's that have been mentions have a similar AUP date.


And, yes, I know as mentioned in other threads and discussions, the AUP has not seemed to interfere with usage as yet, but I don't want to assume that will always be the case. I just want to make sure I look at all of the information before I make a decision.


I'm looking forward to the Chromebook Showcases that ILTPP is working on putting together so we can see some of the newer models, hands-on, and hopefully make some decisions that will carry us into the future.


Jan 30

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+1 Gerry. I know it probably won't be an issue, but if there are good options that get me out past the graduation date of a class I would explore those options first.


We have Lenovo N21 and N22 models. On the topic of cameras, I'm surprised at how many kids bring devices in for repair and they have the camera turned around to face it toward the inside of our cases. I think they like the rotating camera for privacy concerns, which is an angle I didn't consider. I thought "cool! The camera turns around and you can use it to record a speech." I'm wondering how much tape I'll find over the fixed lenses if I were to buy a model with a fixed webcam.


Jan 30

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We bought Lenovo N22's. After that experience I'll never willingly buy another Lenovo product of any kind ever again. I hope they go out of business.


Jan 30

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We’ve had good luck so far with Lenovo’s n21-22 .


Jan 30

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+1 Scott but i just hope that they take a very hard look at the lesson that was learned with that issue.


Jan 31

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I'm with Scott. I'll never buy another device from Lenovo, no matter how great & cheap it seems.


As for the N22, we've had endless keyboard issues with them. Of the 100 we purchased, 43 have had keyboard failures within 18 months, with more showing up every week. The administration has quit trying to keep up with the $60/ea costs of replacement keyboards. We just pile them up to use as replacement parts for the ones that are still working.


Contrast that with our Acer c720s that we've had for four years with only two failures, neither of which were keyboards. To be fair, they cost us more up front, but still...


Others say they've had good luck with the n22, so ymmv, but my experience has soured me on the company.

Jan 31

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We’ve got ~900 N22s. We haven’t seen a very high percentage of keyboard failures that others have. We’re going with N23s next year and excited that the chargers are the same. It’s a pain that our N21s are a different charger.


Jan 31

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Lenovo did finally pony up and send us replacement keyboards. This was after we got the good advice to pressure them through CDWG who sold them to us. I think they don't want to lose face with someone as big as CDWG.


They've sent me 45 keyboards so far at no charge, but it took some legwork and luck to get them to admit the issue and take corrective action.


Jan 31

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+1 on the N22s and Lenovo. Just this hour a student brought in one with the keyboard issue. This makes number 27 out of 50 purchased in the summer of 2016.


Jan 31

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Must be the batches. We also purchased Acer 720s - I thing about 500 in all. We are now at close to a 40% mainboard failure rate on those devices; I will never purchase another Acer.


We are now working with CTL. They have been pretty good to deal with so far. I guess you never know.



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Ryan Collins

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Mar 29, 2018, 12:59:55 PM3/29/18
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On Monday, March 26, 2018 at 1:12:13 PM UTC-4, Jesse wrote:
We plan to provide Chrome devices for many of our teaching staff next fall (going from Macbooks or iMacs). 

There are some nice Chromebase options for those opting for a desktop model, but we're not sure what is great out there for higher-end, flip-screen touch Chromebooks. All seem to have just 11" screens. Are there any larger than that?

Just curious what you all have tried in the high-end, flip-screen touch Chromebook world? Is the flippable screen even worth it? Maybe not if 11" is the biggest it can be.

We are looking at the Samsung Chromebook Pro for teachers and have a few in the district now to test. They have an amazing screen and also come with a stylus. 

Mattix-Wand, Gerry

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Mar 29, 2018, 2:53:15 PM3/29/18
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I have an ASUS C302 that I like very much.  It flips all the way around into a tablet.

I also recently saw the Acer Chromebook 14 CB3.  It is an all metal case and feels very much like a MacBook.  It even comes in Rose Gold. :)

The Samsung Pro also looked like a promising staff device.

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Gil Anspacher

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Apr 2, 2018, 12:35:53 PM4/2/18
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We moved from Dell Win 7 laptops to Chromebooks for staff. They have 2 choices:

Dell 3380 13" i3 Chromebook
CTL J5+ flip/touch 11"

Staff are very happy with the change. Flip/touch effectiveness is still in question. Tests with passive styluses were less than optimal.

Gil Anspacher, Technology Director
Santiam Canyon School District
Mill City, OR 97360

JP Connolly

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Apr 2, 2018, 2:38:29 PM4/2/18
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It's not the Apple Pencil, but the Chromebook Pencil is literally.... a pencil. Much cheaper. Doesn't need to charge. 

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Gil Anspacher

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Apr 2, 2018, 3:23:07 PM4/2/18
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Cool!

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