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Keith Mack

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May 16, 2014, 4:40:12 PM5/16/14
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I've been lurking on this list for a long time and have appreciated all the
great ideas and resources.

I work in a small school that is part of a geographic GAFE domain
"bigconsortium.k12.ca.us". Staff are using this domain, but we will be
adding in students in fall.

Our K-8 school had been thinking that we'd create a separate domain for our
students next fall like "zesstudents.org". This mainly to give early grade
students an easier domain to remember and type than
third...@bigconsortium.k12.ca.us".

The main thing I don't want to do is put a barrier that impacts
communication between teachers and students. I've seen some recommended that
teachers also have an acct in the student domain. I think this would be
fine, but may have some teachers will revolt if they had to use another
separate email account.

Lately I'm seeing more voices thinking that using one domain for teachers
and students would be the way to go and finding myself thinking this is
likely the best option for us.

Any input on this is much appreciated on or off-list. Will need to make a
decision soon.

Thanks,

Keith Mack
Tech Specialist


David Held

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May 17, 2014, 5:22:15 PM5/17/14
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We have always had one domain and would agree with the way you are leaning. It is easier to manage user, groups, etc. I have found that students are not tying email addresses so much as people's names, so the length is of no consequence. Believe me dh...@poughkeepsieday.org is no picnic.

David Held
Poughkeepsie Day School

JP Connolly

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May 17, 2014, 6:10:25 PM5/17/14
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I would strongly recommend a single domain, but length is a usability issue. Can you move everyone onto a single shorter domain?

JP

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Matt Lee

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May 17, 2014, 6:22:26 PM5/17/14
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We currently have our students in our primary domain, following the same longform standard (district.k12.state.us). It is a longer domain for them to type when logging in (now that our specific domain page is defunct), but I'd say they've done well with it so far. One negative we've encountered from having them in the same domain is that staff have inadvertently emailed students something because they have a similar name as a staff member (clicking the first populated name without looking closely at the address).

Most of the complaints from the longer domain come from our teachers and administrators. Several districts in the nearby area have moved to .org's, and we are in talks to do the same in the future. I'm personally a fan of the district.k12.state.us 'standard' - however, others having moved away from it makes it inherently less useful.

May 17, 2014 at 5:10 PM

I would strongly recommend a single domain, but length is a usability issue. Can you move everyone onto a single shorter domain?

JP

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Watson, Branden

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May 19, 2014, 6:55:36 AM5/19/14
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We have 2 GAFE domains,one for students and one for staff. One of the biggest initial reasons we went this way 4 years ago was because at that time Google did not allow Restricted Delivery per OU. We only allow our students to email to a few domains and there was no way back then to make that work having both students and staff in the same domain. Also as someone else mentioned the auto populate for ocntacts could cause some problems.

In hindsight I am still 50/50 on whether I would keep them separate or not.

Branden 


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Capps, Ted

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May 19, 2014, 9:07:04 AM5/19/14
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We are a small school district with separate domains. When we set it up years ago, two domains were what we needed. I think you have more granularity now within a single domain. We have had very few problems with students and staff being in separate domains. I see no overwhelming reason to change at this point.
Ted Capps, Technology Director
Bland Independent School District
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Chris Franzen

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May 19, 2014, 9:58:36 AM5/19/14
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1 domain is the way to go as Google just makes your life easier.  

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Marguerite Lowak

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May 19, 2014, 11:01:24 AM5/19/14
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I would like to know how Google Classroom is going to work with 2 domains. The only issue we have is with forms that require a domain login. 
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