Charter schools are "the model"...union
The_Carpathia
http://www.nysun.com/new-york/on-tests-charter-schools-outperform-districts/80557/
Charter schools are greatly outperforming their district
counterparts. Now, even the union officials in the area are
recognizing that their performance shows them as "the model" for
schools to follow.
My intent, here, is not to say that we should abandon the public
schools. It is, however, to say that business as usual in those
schools results in lowered performance. Schools without union control
and tight curriculum requirements are succeeding. It's time we opened
up the school systems with ideas from those schools that ARE working.
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
Bob LeChevalier
>According to the New York Sun...
>
>http://www.nysun.com/new-york/on-tests-charter-schools-outperform-districts/80557/
>
>Charter schools are greatly outperforming their district
>counterparts. Now, even the union officials in the area are
>recognizing that their performance shows them as "the model" for
>schools to follow.
>
>My intent, here, is not to say that we should abandon the public
>schools.
Good thing, since your ignorance is showing again.
Charter schools ARE public schools.
>It's time we opened up the school systems with ideas from those schools that ARE working.
The problem is that the ideas that work at one school often do not
work at others, because the reason they work at the first school is
because the parents and kids have chosen and bought into the program.
Among the more successful charter schools are the ones that have a two
hour longer school day, and Saturday classes when necessary (but they
seldom have sports teams). How popular would these be elsewhere? Not
very.
lojbab
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Mark Peters
Bob LeChevalier <loj...@lojban.org> wrote:
Bob,
I agree that charter schools are public schools. However, I keep
reading that public schools district officials keep saying that charter
schools take money from public schools.
Mark
Larry Hewitt
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Because the reporters use sloppy language.
Larry
> Mark
Larry Hewitt
"The_Carpathia" <writi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Actually, the so-called analysis in the article is worthless propaganda put
out by pro-charter organization.
The author cherry picks the data, selecting specific high- performing
charter schools and comparing hem to the district as a whole.
There are , indeed, high performing non-charter schools that exceed the
district averages, too. And, as he admits without explicitly saying so,
there are charter schools that do not meet district averages.
Larry
Eat the rich
>
> Charter schools are greatly outperforming their district
> counterparts. Now, even the union officials in the area are
> recognizing that their performance shows them as "the model" for
> schools to follow.
>
> My intent, here, is not to say that we should abandon the public
> schools. It is, however, to say that business as usual in those
> schools results in lowered performance. Schools without union control
> and tight curriculum requirements are succeeding. It's time we opened
> up the school systems with ideas from those schools that ARE working.
>
> Kenneth Clifton
> christiansuperhero.com
You forget to mention that charter schools offer more money for their
teachers, therefore they can hire the best teachers. Perhaps if
public schools didn't have their budgets cut they could offer
competitive wages and thus attract the best teachers.
Bob LeChevalier
> I agree that charter schools are public schools. However, I keep
>reading that public schools district officials keep saying that charter
>schools take money from public schools.
I'd have to read a cite where this was said in order to interpret such
a remark in context.
The_Carpathia
wrote:
> In article <q72b6450qm7ist1chmdoqhnladlkl04...@4ax.com>,
> Bob LeChevalier <loj...@lojban.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> > The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >According to the New York Sun...
>
They are public schools, but they are exempt from having to use
district curriculum and procedures. That is why the unions are
usually opposed to them.
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
The_Carpathia
> "The_Carpathia" <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:616a235e-b439-44fa...@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > According to the New York Sun...
>
>
> > Charter schools are greatly outperforming their district
> > counterparts. Now, even the union officials in the area are
> > recognizing that their performance shows them as "the model" for
> > schools to follow.
>
> > My intent, here, is not to say that we should abandon the public
> > schools. It is, however, to say that business as usual in those
> > schools results in lowered performance. Schools without union control
> > and tight curriculum requirements are succeeding. It's time we opened
> > up the school systems with ideas from those schools that ARE working.
>
> > Kenneth Clifton
> > christiansuperhero.com
>
> Actually, the so-called analysis in the article is worthless propaganda put
> out by pro-charter organization.
>
> The author cherry picks the data, selecting specific high- performing
> charter schools and comparing hem to the district as a whole.
>
I see. Thanks for letting me know that the New York Sun and the
teacher unions in that district are engaging in propaganda.
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
The_Carpathia
wby...@ireland.com
Exactly where does it say that?
WB Yeats
Bob LeChevalier
>> I agree that charter schools are public schools. However, I keep
>> reading that public schools district officials keep saying that charter
>> schools take money from public schools.
>>
>> Mark
>
>They are public schools, but they are exempt from having to use
>district curriculum and procedures. That is why the unions are
>usually opposed to them.
http://www.nea.org/charter/neacharterpolicy.html
<NEA Resolution A-1 expresses NEA's strong belief "that public
< educational opportunities for every American must be preserved and
< strengthened." Consistent with this belief, NEA "supports innovation
< in public education," NEA Resolution A-29, including education reform
< mechanisms that promote decentralized and shared decision making,
< diverse educational offerings, and the removal of onerous
< administrative requirements. The core assumptions that inform the
< charter school (1) concept -- i.e., innovation, autonomy, and
< accountability -- indicate that charter schools have the potential to
< facilitate these reforms, and be positive change agents by developing
< new and creative methods of teaching and learning that can be
< replicated in mainstream public schools.
That sure sounds like strong opposition. Not.