Teacher behaves the worst in updated Milgram study
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understand how 'ordinary' people can perform despicable acts.
http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=2765416&page=1
Not surprisingly - the most sadistic guinea pig is the 7th grade
teacher. Having volunteered in the classroom for several years, I'm
pretty jaded. I've seen a lot of insensitive behavior from teachers,
but this particular teacher's behavior is shocking. She smiles while
she delivers the shocks and she's clearly only concerned with
liability. This teacher is a good example of what the institution of
education does to "ordinary" people.
What I can't understand is how a supposedly college educated
'professional' doesn't appear to know what the Milgram study was.
I thought a person couldn't graduate from college without some basic
knowledge. She seemed totally unaware of this landmark experiment.
The woman had to know she was on television, yet she still chose to
represent herself like a sadistic loon. Just another example of the
quality of teachers we allow in our nation's classrooms - cynical,
burnt out, just following orders and not interested in doing anything
but following orders. With examples like this woman, no wonder why the
country can't produce citizens with character anymore.
It scares the bejesus out of me that this woman is left alone in a
classroom unsupervised with vulnerable little kids. At least Amerikkka
saw some of the dead wood that make Guantanamo Bays and Abu Ghraibs
possible ....
Robert Ricks
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Steve
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laraine
> Last night, ABCs primetime recreated the famous Milgram experiment to
> understand how 'ordinary' people can perform despicable acts.
>
>
> http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=2765416&page=1
>
>
>
> Not surprisingly - the most sadistic guinea pig is the 7th grade
> teacher. Having volunteered in the classroom for several years, I'm
> pretty jaded. I've seen a lot of insensitive behavior from teachers,
> but this particular teacher's behavior is shocking. She smiles while
> she delivers the shocks and she's clearly only concerned with
> liability. This teacher is a good example of what the institution of
> education does to "ordinary" people.
She said during the show that she thought that the
person being shocked sounded as though he were
not being truthful to her, and claimed that she had
learned over the years how to detect that from students.
The person administering the experiment had said to
everyone that fakery could be part of it, so she guessed
(partly) wrong as to where the fakery was.
>
> What I can't understand is how a supposedly college educated
> 'professional' doesn't appear to know what the Milgram study was.
> I thought a person couldn't graduate from college without some basic
> knowledge. She seemed totally unaware of this landmark experiment.
I too am surprised that a teacher would not have been
aware of the Milgram experiment--maybe teachers are
not always required to take Psych 102. In fact, that
experiment seems important enough that one wonders
why students do not learn about it in high school.
>
> The woman had to know she was on television, yet she still chose to
> represent herself like a sadistic loon. Just another example of the
> quality of teachers we allow in our nation's classrooms - cynical,
> burnt out, just following orders and not interested in doing anything
> but following orders. With examples like this woman, no wonder why the
> country can't produce citizens with character anymore.
>
The shocks only went to as high as about 150 volts (lower
than in the Milgram experiment), and the subject did not complain
about heart problems until just before the 150 volt shock, so
quite a few of the participants hesitated just before that one,
including the teacher, I believe, then the majority gave it anyway
after the person administering the test, who was a somewhat
well-dressed formal-sounding male, reassured them that the
test would only cause emotional, and not physical pain, to the
subject.
I found myself wondering how many would have obeyed a
female administering the test (or someone not formally
dressed, etc.)
There were only 40 participants total for that first test, so
I'm not sure that the data was extremely meaningful, but the
results were interesting anyway.
C.
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how_do_t...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Last night, ABCs primetime recreated the famous Milgram experiment to
> understand how 'ordinary' people can perform despicable acts.
>
>
> http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=2765416&page=1
>
>
> Not surprisingly - the most sadistic guinea pig is the 7th grade
> teacher. Having volunteered in the classroom for several years, I'm
> pretty jaded. I've seen a lot of insensitive behavior from teachers,
> but this particular teacher's behavior is shocking. She smiles while
> she delivers the shocks and she's clearly only concerned with
> liability. This teacher is a good example of what the institution of
> education does to "ordinary" people.
>
> What I can't understand is how a supposedly college educated
> 'professional' doesn't appear to know what the Milgram study was.
> I thought a person couldn't graduate from college without some basic
> knowledge. She seemed totally unaware of this landmark experiment.
>
> The woman had to know she was on television, yet she still chose to
> represent herself like a sadistic loon. Just another example of the
> quality of teachers we allow in our nation's classrooms - cynical,
> burnt out, just following orders and not interested in doing anything
> but following orders.
Holy crap! One teacher did that? Let's close all schools immediately
and save the children!
But what will we do with the children? We can't leave them with their
mothers -- Andrea Yates proved that Moms can be child killers. And we
can't leave them with their Dads because Marcus Wesson proved that
fathers can kill their children. And we can't leave them in the care
of the clergy...so what are we supposed to do?
> With examples like this woman, no wonder why the
> country can't produce citizens with character anymore.
It used to be that families raised their children, not just teachers.
I hear that it still happens in some places, but maybe that's just a
rumor.
Robert Ricks
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