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Terry Bowden

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Apr 28, 1994, 4:06:02 AM4/28/94
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Kirk B. DeFord wrote these words in a message to All:
KBD> Here is another idea: What about a specific discussion of
KBD> the ways and hows of using ARTISTS in the classroom, K-12.
KBD> We could look for the ways that various programs have been
KBD> successful, and/or encountered difficulties.

KBD> I would also like to encourage a discussion of THIS
KBD> TECHNOLOGY and how teachers at all levels incorporate it
KBD> into their instruction.

I spend quite a bit of my time preparing presentation material.
Products on my workstation include Corel Draw, StoryBoard Live,
Freelance Graphics and Power Point. Most of these products can
import existing ClipArt, with Corel Draw getting top prize for
the largest range of high quality art libraries to choose from.

Freelance and Power Point are by far the best for running a
series of slides, with easy means to create and update the slides.
Storyboard Live has the best pizzazz in presentation styles, with lots
of groovey effects as you "paint" the presentation screens, plus the
added dimension of sound.
Corel Draw has the best artistic effects in creating artistic screens.

What are other people's experiences with these and other similar
products?

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Renee Berg

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Apr 28, 1994, 11:26:00 PM4/28/94
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PC> Hello Kirk,
-> Here is another idea: What about a specific discussion of the ways an
-> hows of using ARTISTS in the classroom, K-12. We could look for the w

PC> Curious to know your favorite medium? I'm having a heck of a time with
PC> Acrylics. Also curious to know how many paintings you like to have
PC> going at one time...
PC> see ya...

I like working with oils. I like working on one at a time. One of my best paintings was done just before having surgery and I was in a lot of pain.

I have heard that wetting the cavas or paper will slow the drying time with acrylic paints. Give this a try and let me know if it help.

Renee

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Bruce D. Wilson

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Apr 29, 1994, 4:00:00 AM4/29/94
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PC>Does anyone know what AWS after an Artist's name means. My only
PC>guess is that it means: Artist with Standing. ???

Dear Petrina, great name, AWS is American Watercolor Society.

"Selling Water by the River" MA 01380-0131
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Petrina Case

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Apr 29, 1994, 12:38:50 PM4/29/94
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-> tries to keep them separate. For example do you believe that each of
-> various aesthetic responses, mimetic, institutionalism, expressionism
-> formalism to name a few exists for separate and distinct reasons and
-> therefore that they have differing goals or do you believe that one i
-> better that another? For that matter do you believe that any of thes
Quoting some of your paisley paragraph...
To answer your question with a question:
More specificaly your line 4-5; Is a Rose better than a graceful
Giraffe? Probably not, each needs to be enjoyed for its own separate
distinct beautiful qualilities. If you study a pin, it is ordinary, but
paint/draw it to canvas and you may find something quite unique.
What are your thoughts, is one (lines 2-3) better than the other?
and last..."One mans garbage is anothers gold."

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Petrina Case

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May 3, 1994, 11:29:24 PM5/3/94
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-> Dear Petrina, great name, AWS is American Watercolor Society.
Hello Bruce,
Thanks so much for your reply. Wow, do I feel stupid. Ho hum.
Do you know how I can join this "American Watercolor Society" ?
I'm curious to know why you mentioned "Sell by the River".
ASIDE: What is your favorite medium? Do you like pen & ink the best?
see ya...

Petrina Case

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May 3, 1994, 11:35:41 PM5/3/94
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-> I like working with oils. I like working on one at a time. One of m
-> paintings was done just before having surgery and I was in a lot of p
->
-> I have heard that wetting the cavas or paper will slow the drying tim
-> acrylic paints. Give this a try and let me know if it help.
Hello Renee,

Thanks so much for your reply.
I've tried wetting the canvas first and also using an acrylic retarder
(medium that slows the drying time. My biggest problem is getting it
too thick. I just love oils but again I go too thick with the paint.
I prefer the tones of oils (actually hate acrylic tones) but I thought I
could teach myself with acrylics since theye are less expensive.

Hope all went well with your surgery.
Would greatly appreciate the trials you went through when beginning to
use oils.
The Art Professor at the local University said he didn't think I needed
to take any more Art courses. Sure wish one of the masters was still
alive. Ahhhhhh, I get so discouraged. I cannot be the best unless when
I view one of my paintings and also think I have come even close to one
of the masters.
Comments back, please oh please...

Lauri L. Murphy

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May 5, 1994, 5:09:07 AM5/5/94
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William F. Bassett sez:
A discussion of aesthetics need not degenerate into personal tastes if one
recognizes the various schools of thought and h/er own personal taste and
tries to keep them separate. For example do you believe that each of the
various aesthetic responses, mimetic, institutionalism, expressionism, and

formalism to name a few exists for separate and distinct reasons and
therefore that they have differing goals or do you believe that one is

better that another?
(end quote.)

this is an interesting idea. When one looks at the manifestos of particular
movements, (for example, cubism or Italian Futurism) you can distinctly
find the artist's belief that their movement is about something inherently
different--sometime directly the opposite of--other current trends in art.
What I wonder is: what happened to these "movements?" It seems that now,
rather than artists defining their intention and even their roles in society,
the art market or critics define the movements for us. Rampant consumerism
and a capitalist culture seem to have redifined the sociocultural aspects
of art making. I'm not really sure what current "movements" are about
sometimes--ask someone for a definition of postmodernism and you'll most
likely recieve at least ten different answers.

You know, it's always struck me funny that discussions of art history often
seem to de-evolve into discussions of "taste." If you were discussing
European history, would your study of the facts be affected by the idea that
you don't "like" Napoleon? ;-) It always makes me laugh...

Lauri.
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