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curmudgeon

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Jun 25, 2007, 3:59:53 PM6/25/07
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Are any of your children suffering from *VGAD*?
Video Game Addictive Disorder!
Do not worry, help may soon be on the way.
Some medical experts claim that video games can be as addictive as heroin,
and they want the addiction added to the ever-growing list of psychiatric
disorders included in the American Psychiatric Association's mental illness
manual.
If that were to happen, all kinds of unintended things just might follow.
Any health plans that now cover mental illness will have to pay for
treatment to wean young children away from the latest violent crop of video
games.
So what if it raises the cost of health care premiums for everyone else.
It is a disease for pity's sake.
And drug companies will no doubt create a new wonder pill to assist with
your Childs effort to go cold turkey from the computers joy stick.
However not everyone has joined the video-game addiction bandwagon.
There more sensible medical experts say that it is nothing more than a
bad-habit and it would be wrong to classify it as an official psychiatric
malady.
Perhaps those rational voices will prevail when the American Medical
Association takes up the question at its annual policy meeting in Chicago
this week.
The debate, expected to be intense, could come as early as today.
And, if the voices of common sense are to be successful in keeping video
games addiction off the list of officially recognized psychiatric ailments,
perhaps they can offer this prescription to parents worried about their
children's becoming video-game addicts.
Get rid of the Game Boy and lock up the Play Station.
The greatest gift you can spend on your children is your time.

"There are no enemies in science just anomalies"


Rowley

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Jun 25, 2007, 6:52:19 PM6/25/07
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curmudgeon wrote:

> Are any of your children suffering from *VGAD*?
> Video Game Addictive Disorder!

I know of many that seem addicted to the internet (but then again people
probably think that about me too.)

> Do not worry, help may soon be on the way.
> Some medical experts claim that video games can be as addictive as heroin,
> and they want the addiction added to the ever-growing list of psychiatric
> disorders included in the American Psychiatric Association's mental illness
> manual.

Good!

> If that were to happen, all kinds of unintended things just might follow.
> Any health plans that now cover mental illness will have to pay for
> treatment to wean young children away from the latest violent crop of video
> games.

Sound OK to me.

> So what if it raises the cost of health care premiums for everyone else.
> It is a disease for pity's sake.

So is obesity and many kids today suffer from that too.

> And drug companies will no doubt create a new wonder pill to assist with
> your Childs effort to go cold turkey from the computers joy stick.

I'm imagining more of the old electro-shock therapy - build the contacts
into the game controller....

> However not everyone has joined the video-game addiction bandwagon.
> There more sensible medical experts say that it is nothing more than a
> bad-habit and it would be wrong to classify it as an official psychiatric
> malady.

Bottom line it's still an addiction - same as one for drugs, alcohol,
nicotine, food... or gambling, shopping, or any of the other things
people can get addicted to.

> Perhaps those rational voices will prevail when the American Medical
> Association takes up the question at its annual policy meeting in Chicago
> this week.
> The debate, expected to be intense, could come as early as today.
> And, if the voices of common sense are to be successful in keeping video
> games addiction off the list of officially recognized psychiatric ailments,
> perhaps they can offer this prescription to parents worried about their
> children's becoming video-game addicts.
> Get rid of the Game Boy and lock up the Play Station.
> The greatest gift you can spend on your children is your time.

Yeah - but who has any of that (time) to spare?

Martin

curmudgeon

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Jun 25, 2007, 8:08:45 PM6/25/07
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There are enough medical experts out there
that you can obtain a medical theory
justifying almost any kind of behavior.

And then there is this...

Attention deficit disorder?
Try video games!
http://news.com.com/Attention+deficit+disorder+Try+video+games/2100-1043_3-5940181.html

Rowley

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Jun 25, 2007, 9:21:56 PM6/25/07
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You might also read the book by by Marc Prensky - "Don't Bother Me
Mom--I'm Learning!", or the one by by James Paul Gee - "What Video Games
Have to Teach Us About Learning and Literacy", or the one by by John C.
Beck and Mitchell Wade - "Got Game: How the Gamer Generation Is
Reshaping Business Forever", or the one by David Williamson Shaffer -
"How Computer Games Help Children Learn", or the one by Clark Aldrich -
"Learning by Doing: A Comprehensive Guide to Simulations, Computer
Games, and Pedagogy in e-Learning and Other Educational Experiences"

Lots of studies out there.

martin

SumBuny

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Jun 26, 2007, 7:35:12 PM6/26/07
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"Rowley" <industry...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> curmudgeon wrote:
>
>> Are any of your children suffering from *VGAD*?
>> Video Game Addictive Disorder!
>
> I know of many that seem addicted to the internet (but then again people
> probably think that about me too.)
>
>> Do not worry, help may soon be on the way.
>> Some medical experts claim that video games can be as addictive as
>> heroin,
>> and they want the addiction added to the ever-growing list of psychiatric
>> disorders included in the American Psychiatric Association's mental
>> illness
>> manual.
>
> Good!
>
>> If that were to happen, all kinds of unintended things just might follow.
>> Any health plans that now cover mental illness will have to pay for
>> treatment to wean young children away from the latest violent crop of
>> video
>> games.
>
> Sound OK to me.
>
>> So what if it raises the cost of health care premiums for everyone else.
>> It is a disease for pity's sake.
>
> So is obesity and many kids today suffer from that too.

Hey...my son tries to convince me that DDR (Dance Dance Revolution) is one
of the video games that will actually help curb that one <BG>

>
>> And drug companies will no doubt create a new wonder pill to assist with
>> your Childs effort to go cold turkey from the computers joy stick.
>
> I'm imagining more of the old electro-shock therapy - build the contacts
> into the game controller....

Force feedback anyone? <BEG>

>
>> However not everyone has joined the video-game addiction bandwagon.
>> There more sensible medical experts say that it is nothing more than a
>> bad-habit and it would be wrong to classify it as an official psychiatric
>> malady.
>
> Bottom line it's still an addiction - same as one for drugs, alcohol,
> nicotine, food... or gambling, shopping, or any of the other things people
> can get addicted to.
>
>> Perhaps those rational voices will prevail when the American Medical
>> Association takes up the question at its annual policy meeting in Chicago
>> this week.
>> The debate, expected to be intense, could come as early as today.
>> And, if the voices of common sense are to be successful in keeping video
>> games addiction off the list of officially recognized psychiatric
>> ailments,
>> perhaps they can offer this prescription to parents worried about their
>> children's becoming video-game addicts.
>> Get rid of the Game Boy and lock up the Play Station.
>> The greatest gift you can spend on your children is your time.
>
> Yeah - but who has any of that (time) to spare?

<G> I wonder how many were saying this when television was new?

--
Buny
--Nobody realizes that some people expend tremendous energy merely to be
normal." ~ Albert Camus


Rowley

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Jun 26, 2007, 9:04:54 PM6/26/07
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And it might actually do that - least he's not sitting still on the
couch or floor while playing.

Problem I see with that comparison, is - adults were also watching the
new televisions. Hmmm, remember eating real tv dinners in aluminum trays
on tv trays while the family watched their favorite program? Those were
the days.

The thing that interests me, is that most of the younger adults today
grew up playing video games and many of them still do. One day soon,
there might be a President who grew up playing WOW (World of Warcraft)
or any of the other huge multiplier games - it will be interesting to
see how integrated games will become in everyday society by that time.

Martin

>

SumBuny

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Jun 26, 2007, 9:34:13 PM6/26/07
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...then, have you seen the Wii? I have seen articles that it is also in use
in <gasp> nursing homes as well as in family homes because it is so
intuitive....and physical. I saw a television article that thowed several
nursing home residents using it so they could get a bowling league
going...not something you would expect with a typical video game <g>


LOL...I have heard many a comedian making the following joke:

"Oh, hush, W...just go over there and play with your Gameboy...."

Rowley

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Jun 26, 2007, 9:56:22 PM6/26/07
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I think part of that is the uniqueness of the games that Nintendo has
created to go with the console & motion sensitive controller - compared
to the typical mash-the-buttons-as-fast-as-you-can games that populate
the market for the other two systems. My 40+ year-old sister just bought
one of Nintendo's DS systems just to play some of the games like Brain
Age. Goes to show that if you make a game that grownups might find
interesting (and kids not) - they might actually buy it.

I like playing the driving/racing games - but most have objectives that
really don't appeal to me. I'd like to see one of the companies develop
a driving game that actually allowed you to drive to places, sort of
like the flight or train simulators. Heck, tie it into one of those GPS
navigation systems and have it let you drive to some real destinations.

Jeff Foxworthy has a bit about how guys are proud to get to a
destination in the shortest amount of time - that could be factored into
this game as well. And there could even be bouns points for never
pulling over an asking for directions... =~)

eh- I just don't see him as a gamer, of any platform. He's got his ranch
here in TX and my guess is that is all the recreation he enjoys.

Martin

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nimue

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Jun 26, 2007, 10:35:33 PM6/26/07
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SumBuny wrote:
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>>
>> So is obesity and many kids today suffer from that too.
>
> Hey...my son tries to convince me that DDR (Dance Dance Revolution)
> is one of the video games that will actually help curb that one <BG>
>

Your son is right. I have seen it work wonders with students of mine. I
can't recommend it highly enough, actually. DDR is not a game I would scoff
at. Painful as it may be <g>, your son knows more about this than you do.
Get it for him, especially if he wants to lose a few pounds.

>>
snip

--
nimue

"Let your freak-flag fly, and if someone doesn't get you, move on."
Drew Barrymore


teachrmama

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Jun 26, 2007, 11:20:33 PM6/26/07
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"SumBuny" <Sum...@NOBODYHEREcox.net> wrote in message
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DDR is really fun. I enjoy competing with my teenage daughters. =c) And
it is definitely more exercise than just playing a video game!


SumBuny

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Jun 27, 2007, 1:37:50 PM6/27/07
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> SumBuny wrote:
>> "Rowley" <industry...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>>SumBuny wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Rowley" <industry...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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While I agree, I think the gist of the joke was less on his ability as a
true gamer, and more of the comic's intent on showing the "Leader of the
Free World" 's inability to be smart and mature--y'know a "stereotypical
teenager" who would rather sit in a courner playing a game and leave the job
of being an adult to other people...

SumBuny

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Jun 27, 2007, 1:42:05 PM6/27/07
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> SumBuny wrote:
> snip
>>>
>>> So is obesity and many kids today suffer from that too.
>>
>> Hey...my son tries to convince me that DDR (Dance Dance Revolution)
>> is one of the video games that will actually help curb that one <BG>
>>
>
> Your son is right. I have seen it work wonders with students of mine. I
> can't recommend it highly enough, actually. DDR is not a game I would
> scoff
> at. Painful as it may be <g>, your son knows more about this than you do.
> Get it for him, especially if he wants to lose a few pounds.

<BG> He has had it for years...and at 5'10" and "a Buck-twenty," *losing*
weight has never been an issue <g> Tall and thin seems to be a genetic
thing in my family <g>

Now, convincing his P.E. coach was an interesting thing--until he saw said
son in one of the arcades...playing this game across *two* boards! I don't
know if you have ever seen this set up, bit it is possible to do it this
way, where you have one player playing "both sides" of a two-player game.
You have to have two platforms to do this, and the player dances across both
sides. If you think playing across one board is a workout....<BEG>

It *does* get him in shape to drag a bass drum around, though <g>

Seveigny

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Jun 27, 2007, 9:38:32 PM6/27/07
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How does video game addiction relate to teaching students?
~Cate


Rowley

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Jun 27, 2007, 11:01:54 PM6/27/07
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Hmm, makes me think of something that I heard today while I was at a
Dreamweaver workshop today with a bunch of other teachers from different
districts. One of the other teachers mentioned that yesterday she met
with one of her students at the campus where she taught. Apparently this
student had failed an online test of some Microsoft certification - but
the teacher had gotten this student a retest. The student was to have
brought in her access password for the retest, which was suppose to have
been emailed to her. Problem is her parents had taken away her computer
because she had been staying up till 2-3am most nights playing some game
on the internet (which sounds as if that might be a contributing factor
of her failing a test - IMO). Funny thing is - because the student
hadn't been able to check her email for the past couple weeks - the
password wasn't in her inbox as it had gotten full from spam and her
online friends emailing her to find out why she wasn't playing that the
email she needed most likely got bounced.

Course that's not really a teaching issue as much as maybe a testing one.

Martin

SumBuny

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Jun 28, 2007, 4:15:59 PM6/28/07
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"Rowley" <industry...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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> Seveigny wrote:
>> How does video game addiction relate to teaching students?
>> ~Cate
>
> Hmm, makes me think of something that I heard today while I was at a
> Dreamweaver workshop today with a bunch of other teachers from different
> districts. One of the other teachers mentioned that yesterday she met with
> one of her students at the campus where she taught. Apparently this
> student had failed an online test of some Microsoft certification - but
> the teacher had gotten this student a retest. The student was to have
> brought in her access password for the retest, which was suppose to have
> been emailed to her. Problem is her parents had taken away her computer
> because she had been staying up till 2-3am most nights playing some game
> on the internet (which sounds as if that might be a contributing factor of
> her failing a test - IMO). Funny thing is - because the student hadn't
> been able to check her email for the past couple weeks - the password
> wasn't in her inbox as it had gotten full from spam and her online friends
> emailing her to find out why she wasn't playing that the email she needed
> most likely got bounced.
>
> Course that's not really a teaching issue as much as maybe a testing one.
>

Also, more schools are looking towards online courses--I know my son's high
school is using them to help with schedule conflicts and to help with the
summer school issues. If a student is taking an online class, and has a
tendency towards an addiction to play online games....well, parental
monitoring over whether or not he/she is actually in the virtual classroom
and not in the game is taken up to a whole new level...and I know how "boss
keys" work all too well.....<G>

Jerry Beeler

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Jun 29, 2007, 1:54:07 PM6/29/07
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"curmudgeon" <britica...@bresnan.net> wrote in message
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> Get rid of the Game Boy and lock up the Play Station.

Not necessary ... it won't be long until the drug companies come out with
some type of narcotic that will help the addicted cope with their
"disability".

Jerry


The Serial Killfiler

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Jul 4, 2007, 12:10:10 PM7/4/07
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On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 22:52:19 GMT, Rowley <industry...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>> However not everyone has joined the video-game addiction bandwagon.
>> There more sensible medical experts say that it is nothing more than a
>> bad-habit and it would be wrong to classify it as an official psychiatric
>> malady.
>
>Bottom line it's still an addiction - same as one for drugs, alcohol,
>nicotine, food... or gambling, shopping, or any of the other things
>people can get addicted to.

Insurance companies don't necessarily do much to cover serious
recognized mental illnesses, much less addiction treatments even for
recognized addictions.

I was counseled for "problem drinking" in my teens. I am not an
alcoholic and did not need inpatient treatment, yet our family
insurance wouldn't cover more than 6 counseling sessions then. I hear
from others that this is an area where more insurance isn't very
generous.

TSK
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