Liberal Democrats trying to ram health care through that doesn't even exist yet in spite of what the people have said
gabriel
Michelle Bachmann (R-MN) put it, this "gangster government" that
is trying to force this health care through even though the
people have made it clear they do not want it, and even though
the bill they are voting on isn't even written yet!! This is
borderline criminal behavior by the servants for the people in
the white house.
Also, continue to pray, begging God for forgiveness for how lax
we have been in being salt and light in our country, not standing
up to the perversion and God-rejecting that's been running
rampant and having their own way because so few stand up to the
God-haters in our Christian nation.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJVR If my people, which are called by my
name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and
turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and
will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=720312
Do you think Congress should vote on bills without reading them?
How about voting on bills that don't even exist yet, except in
fragments?
The Senate Finance Committee is poised to vote on a massive
healthcare reform bill on Tuesday allegedly authored by Sen. Max
Baucus (D-Mont.). A glaring, outrageous, unreported fact is that
the bill's actual text has been kept secret. No one actually
knows what's in it � not even the senators who will be told to
vote for it.
Perhaps the Nobel committee will award President Obama another
prize to share with Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, for "imagination
in medical financing."
Bits and pieces are leaking out, but entire sections will be
added later. That's what happened with the House version. Nobody
read the bill, and 75 "phantom" amendments were added after the
vote. A similar maneuver happened in the Senate when a key
committee approved another version of a sweeping healthcare bill
in July without seeing the text. Actual language was unveiled
months later in September.
In short, senators will follow recent precedent and be voting on
something that does not even exist yet.
Even the Congressional Budget Office, which issued a report this
week saying the Baucus plan would cost under $900 billion instead
of more than a trillion, was operating without actual text. When
the CBO crunched the detailed, 1,018-page House version this
summer, it reported that it would cost far more than President
Obama claimed. Obama then broke precedent and summoned the CBO
director to the White House for a "talk." Now the CBO says the
Senate bill will cost less. They think. They hope. They
speculate.
What's more, CNSNews.com reports that an aide to Sen. Harry Reid
said that current debates may be irrelevant because an entirely
different version might be inserted into an unrelated House tax
bill, HR 1586. That's the measure that levies a 90-percent tax
on bonuses given to executives of firms that receive bailout
money. Among other things, this could be a way of getting around
the constitutional requirement that all tax bills originate in
the House.
Sen. Reid continues to insist that he wants a "public option"
that would lead to a "single-payer" system, which means the end
of private insurance and the dawn of socialized medicine. Just
ask Barney Frank. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said this week that
she has the votes necessary to ram through a bill with "the
public option" as soon as it comes back to her chamber.
"The real bill will be another 1,000-page, trillion dollar
experiment...that vastly expands the role of the federal
government in the personal healthcare decisions of every
American," Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY) warned.
House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer would not rule out the
possibility that the House would vote for identical Senate
language, thus avoiding having the bill go to conference for
scrutiny and debate and getting it quickly to President Obama's
desk.
Stunned by the August town halls, Tea parties, and the massive
Sept. 12 taxpayer rally in Washington, liberals know the window
is closing on their plan to nationalize one-sixth of America's
economy and put our healthcare decisions in the hands of
government bureaucrats. So they are working in the dark to ram
this through before most Americans find out.
Even with all the subterfuge, some details have slipped out:
- Do what we say, not what we do -- Congress has exempted itself
from mandatory coverage provisions that they want to impose on
their fellow citizens.
- Taxing through higher deduction requirements -- Dick Morris has
been warning everyone that the 7.5-percent trigger to deduct
medical expenses on your federal tax return will be bumped to 10
percent. That would shake billions out of people's pockets who
have had to spend significant money on healthcare, and will be an
effective violation of the Obama campaign promise not to raise
taxes on Americans making less than $250,000.
- Taxing Class II medical devices, such as breast pumps,
pacemakers, ventilators, wheelchairs, and needles. Call this the
"mommy tax."
- Different tax rates for people in different states. The Wall
Street Journal's Kimberly Strassel reports: "Majority Leader
Harry Reid...worked out a deal by which the federal government
will pay all of his home state's additional Medicaid expenses for
the next five years. Under the majority leader's very special
formula, only three other states -- Oregon, Rhode Island and
Michigan -- qualify for this perk." This means that Americans in
other states would subsidize constituents of Harry Reid and some
of his political friends. A dozen Democratic governors have come
out against the Medicaid mandate as a budget buster, but Reid is
covering his own political interests -- with your money.
Are you angry yet?
Rep. Michelle Bachmann (R-MN) took to the floor of the House
during the earlier spendathon and said the nation is in the grip
of "gangster government," in which powerful interests are raiding
the treasury to ensure their own continued power. The healthcare
"reform" bill is more of the same, but even more dangerous. This
is about the government's power of life and death over our
families, not just our wallets.
The liberal "mainstream" media are providing cover for all this.
None is asking to see the health bill language. You have to go to
places like the Media Research Center's Newsbusters blog, where
Brent Bozell exposed the Reid plan.
The Left will get away with all this unless Americans speak out
now and let them know in no uncertain terms that this is
unacceptable and tyrannical. America needs to speak with a loud,
single demand of our rulers in Washington:
"Show me the bill!"
Bob LeChevalier
>You better contact your congressman to stand up against, as Rep.
>Michelle Bachmann (R-MN)
Someone as clueless as Gabriel and even more offensive.
>put it, this "gangster government" that
>is trying to force this health care through even though the
>people have made it clear they do
... indeed want it.
>and even though the bill they are voting on isn't even written yet!!
They can't pass a law before it is written.
>This is borderline criminal behavior by the servants for the people in
>the white house.
Which was elected on, among other things, health care reform
>Also, continue to pray, begging God for forgiveness for how lax
>we have been in being salt and light in our country, not standing
>up to the perversion and God-rejecting that's been running
>rampant and having their own way because so few stand up to the
>God-haters in our Christian nation.
We are not a "Christian nation", and what others choose to do with
regard to religion is none of your business. That is what "freedom of
religion" is all about.
>The Senate Finance Committee is poised to vote on a massive
>healthcare reform bill on Tuesday allegedly authored by Sen. Max
>Baucus (D-Mont.). A glaring, outrageous, unreported fact is that
>the bill's actual text has been kept secret. No one actually
>knows what's in it � not even the senators who will be told to
>vote for it.
A glaring, outrageous and unreported fact, is that the Senate Finance
Committee isn't voting on a complete bill, and therefore the text is
rather irrelevant. The vote is to REPORT on the bill.
>Bits and pieces are leaking out, but entire sections will be
>added later. That's what happened with the House version. Nobody
>read the bill, and 75 "phantom" amendments were added after the
>vote. A similar maneuver happened in the Senate when a key
>committee approved another version of a sweeping healthcare bill
>in July without seeing the text. Actual language was unveiled
>months later in September.
If you don't know how Congress works, learn.
>What's more, CNSNews.com reports that an aide to Sen. Harry Reid
>said that current debates may be irrelevant because an entirely
>different version might be inserted into an unrelated House tax
>bill, HR 1586.
Yep.
>Sen. Reid continues to insist that he wants a "public option"
>that would lead to a "single-payer" system, which means the end
>of private insurance and the dawn of socialized medicine.
Bullshit.
Just
>ask Barney Frank. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said this week that
>she has the votes necessary to ram through a bill with "the
>public option" as soon as it comes back to her chamber.
Good. "The party of NO" deserves to have lots of stuff rammed up its
ass.
>Stunned by the August town halls, Tea parties, and the massive
>Sept. 12 taxpayer rally in Washington, liberals know the window
>is closing on their plan to nationalize one-sixth of America's
>economy
No such plan.
>Are you angry yet?
Yes - at idiots like you who stand in the way of solutions.
>The Left will get away with all this unless Americans speak out
>now and let them know in no uncertain terms that this is
>unacceptable and tyrannical. America needs to speak with a loud,
>single demand of our rulers in Washington:
>
>"Show me the bill!"
How about a 100% stupidity tax on Republicans?
lojbab
---
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loj...@lojban.org Lojban language www.lojban.org
Noplacia
you, too. Stop hating and start THINKING.
Parallelism
> You better contact your congressman to stand up against, as Rep.
> Michelle Bachmann (R-MN) put it, this "gangster government" that
> is trying to force this health care through even though the
> people have made it clear they do not want it, and even though
> the bill they are voting on isn't even written yet!! This is
> borderline criminal behavior by the servants for the people in
> the white house.
>
> Also, continue to pray, begging God for forgiveness for how lax
> we have been in being salt and light in our country, not standing
> up to the perversion and God-rejecting that's been running
> rampant and having their own way because so few stand up to the
> God-haters in our Christian nation.
even exist yet in spite of what the people have said! gabriel, you
either need to decide whether to attone for your sins or to go to hell
for them! you are a nasty, selfish, ugly neoconis-soon-to-be-
extinctus, all because of your many sins here on earth!
oh, and don't invoke the bible unless you are going to live by each
and every one of the
teachings of that bible, you infidel sinner!
alt.bible, alt.politics.usa.republican, alt.politics.republican,
alt.religion.christian, k12.chat.teacher
, misc.education.home-school.christian
Juan M
"Parallelism" <psyber_o...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:06f9d80a-a57d-4be8...@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
, misc.education.home-school.christian
Bachmann is only slightly to the right of Atilla the Hun.
When she is used as a reference, it totally discredits any other point you
are trying to make.
BTW, where is her birth certificate? she need to prove she was born on
Earth.
Michael Christ
"gabriel" <gabriel...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:pd0ad512kh12759cr...@4ax.com...
> You better contact your congressman to stand up against, as Rep.
> Michelle Bachmann (R-MN) put it, this "gangster government" that
> is trying to force this health care through even though the
> people have made it clear they do not want it, and even though
> the bill they are voting on isn't even written yet!! This is
> borderline criminal behavior by the servants for the people in
> the white house.
>
> Also, continue to pray, begging God for forgiveness for how lax
> we have been in being salt and light in our country, not standing
> up to the perversion and God-rejecting that's been running
> rampant and having their own way because so few stand up to the
> God-haters in our Christian nation.
Its not a Christian nation.
Come on Gabriel get your head out of the sand.
Michael Christ
> 2 Chronicles 7:14 KJVR If my people, which are called by my
> name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and
> turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and
> will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
>
> http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=720312
>
> Do you think Congress should vote on bills without reading them?
> How about voting on bills that don't even exist yet, except in
> fragments?
>
> The Senate Finance Committee is poised to vote on a massive
> healthcare reform bill on Tuesday allegedly authored by Sen. Max
> Baucus (D-Mont.). A glaring, outrageous, unreported fact is that
> the bill's actual text has been kept secret. No one actually
> knows what's in it - not even the senators who will be told to
Juan M
"Michael Christ" <Jesus...@Father.com> wrote in message
news:_eXBm.48003$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Ah, but the Religious Reich watches only Faux Snooze!
Jeffrey Turner
> You better contact your congressman to stand up against, as Rep.
> Michelle Bachmann (R-MN) put it, this "gangster government" that
Bachmann is a certifiable loon.
--Jeff
--
The comfort of the wealthy has always
depended upon an abundant supply of
the poor. --Voltaire
gabriel
<psyber_o...@yahoo.com> wrote:
: On Oct 13, 6:49�pm, gabriel <gabriel_bapt...@hotmail.com> wrote:
: > You better contact your congressman to stand up against, as Rep.
: > Michelle Bachmann (R-MN) put it, this "gangster government" that
: > is trying to force this health care through even though the
: > people have made it clear they do not want it, and even though
: > the bill they are voting on isn't even written yet!! This is
: > borderline criminal behavior by the servants for the people in
: > the white house.
: >
: > Also, continue to pray, begging God for forgiveness for how lax
: > we have been in being salt and light in our country, not standing
: > up to the perversion and God-rejecting that's been running
: > rampant and having their own way because so few stand up to the
: > God-haters in our Christian nation.
: Re: Liberal Democrats trying to ram health care through that doesn't
: even exist yet in spite of what the people have said! gabriel, you
: either need to decide whether to attone for your sins or to go to hell
: for them! you are a nasty, selfish, ugly neoconis-soon-to-be-
: extinctus, all because of your many sins here on earth!
I'm sorry your only refutation is a tirade of personal insults.
=(
:
: oh, and don't invoke the bible unless you are going to live by each
: and every one of the
: teachings of that bible, you infidel sinner!
Actually none of us can live by them - we are not made righteous
by keeping the Law (although we strive to keep it nonetheless) -
- the Law only shows us we are in need of a savior due to our
sinful condition - we are only made righteous in God's sight by
repentance and trusting in Christ as the only way to get to
heaven.
John 14:6-7 KJV
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life:
no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and
from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
Proverbs 14:12 KJV
12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end
thereof are the ways of death.
Titus 3:5 KJV
5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but
according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of
regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of
yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
People that try to earn heaven by their good words are still on
their way to hell.
Luke 13:3 KJV
3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise
perish.
:
: alt.bible, alt.politics.usa.republican, alt.politics.republican,
: >
gabriel
<bubblegu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
: Blah Blah Blah. Absolute nonsense. Once it passes, it will benefit
: you, too. Stop hating and start THINKING.
Actually it's thinking about what you are fed, when lead by God,
that leads you to the real truth.
Meanwhile ask yourself why your only refutation is a personal
attack. If you were so right, it would be easy to actually
refute. Something to, as you put it, think about.
RichTravsky
A rigged game.
RT
Juan M
"RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
news:4AF66243...@hotmMOVEail.com...
It's interesting how all these "pro-life" people don't give a damn about
saving the lives of people who are already born. I refer them as
"anti-sex."
RichTravsky
> saving the lives of people who are already born. I refer them as
> "anti-sex."
Pro life types LOVE the death penalty.
RT
gabriel
<traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
No one's stopping us from repenting.
:
: RT