Space Renaissance Initiative / Brad Guth
Brad Guth
kicking up moon dust, whereas the owners of SRI are pulling out all
their damage-control stops in an effort to pretend their importance is
strictly honorable and without hypocritical aspects. All I can say
is, good luck with that hide and seek kind of bipolar tactic, because
going seriously after our moon and other attainable goals was exactly
what I’d proposed more than a decade ago.
“Some measures to reconduct the discussion within civil boundaries”
The prime dictator/moderator of Space Renaissance (SRI) has finally
spoken and taken action in order to protect their sensitive faith-
based and politically correct mainstream status quo, along with his
trusty army of brown-nosed clowns and minions not far behind.
http://groups.google.com/group/space-renaissance-initiative?hl=en
http://groups.google.com/group/space-renaissance-initiative/browse_frm/thread/34425e1f59a472f0?hl=en
On Feb 16, 10:47 am, Adriano Autino - Space Renaissance Initiative
<adriano.aut...@tdf.it> wrote:
> Dear Members of the SRI Forum,
>
> sorry that my service as a moderator is not efficient enough, since I
> have not time to monitor continuously all the messages flowing here.
>
> We should be happy that this is an alive forum, with many pasionate
> persons willing to contribute to the Space Renaissance development.
By active you mean the dozen some odd out of 208 mostly passive
individuals that are scared to death of their own shadows, as in too
afraid to say exactly whatever they honestly think, as passionate
about their being “don’t ask don’t tell” passive and otherwise deeply
afraid to say whatever’s on their mind, is a definite yes.
>
> In order to keep spammers far from this forum, and control that the
> discussion remains within the limits of our civil and tolerant ethical
> model, I just asked Bebe and Mark to help me in the administration,
> and I also changed the rules for joining the forum.
> Now any new member shall write an email stating name and family name,
> their activity and their interest in the SRI, before they will be
> admitted.
>
> I understand that we also need a kind of ethical code and scope of
> this forum, in order that members can know better what this forum is,
> and which are the boundaries not to be crossed.
>
> Here after some first, elementary, simple rules (we can add something
> else in due time, with due discussion):
>
> 1) the messages to this forum shall not contain any offensive
> language, toward any person, any ethnic ensemble, any religion, any
> ideology
Will goodness gracious, that pretty much brings in the grim reaper and
eliminates most every possible topic or conceivable reply that’s not
in full agreement with whatever SRI approved author, which has to
remain 100% in agreement with whatever our government and NASA has to
say. In other words, making SRI into another private special-interest
club of total passiveness with another “don’t ask don’t tell” policy,
might as well become strictly a private email server so that no one
gets to review or interact with whatever anyone else is honestly
thinking or suggesting as viable interpretations or alternatives.
>
> 2) this forum does not tolerate any expression of support to racism in
> any form
This too is a another terrific "head in the sand" kind of “don’t ask,
don’t tell” method or policy/group tactic that keeps individuals in
fear of their own shadow, or at risk of consequences for letting
something naughty slip out. SRI is suggesting that ethnicity and/or
their faith-based groups simply do not exist and thus have never been
in charge of anything that wasn’t entirely pure an wholesome. Guess
what, it seems faith-based and special-interest political groups
seldom if ever police their own kind, and they sure as hell never turn
themselves in or publicly admit to having made mistakes or given
special treatment/benefits to insiders. I suppose in this universe
there’s an intelligent populated planet that actually works that way,
and perhaps if we manage to survive for another million years it’ll
happen here as well.
>
> 3) this forum does not tolerate any minorities discrimination in any
> form
That statement of SRI policy can be taken or interpreted as a
contradiction of those first two, especially when the less educated
and/or less informed are usually kept in the need-to-know minority
caste of humanity that SRI policy doesn’t what to see changed. So,
perhaps India had the right idea of an enforced caste system to begin
with, because that’s a very close analogy to what SRI has elected to
follow.
>
> 4) this forum does not tolerate any expression of support to
> coercitive ideologies of the past or of the present, such as (for
> example) Fascism, Nazism, Stalinism, and various derivations of them
That lack of "coercitive ideologies" means there's to be no revisions
whatsoever as representing your biggest firewall against openness and
progress thus far, insuring that the past and present day mainstream
status quo is forever protected regardless of the consequences. In
other words, don't suggest honestly researching or forbid changing or
revising a damn thing unless it affects no actual person or anything
else in any negative or corrective way.
>
> 5) this forum admits the political and social criticism, done in civil
> language, criticizing the actions, the programs, and even single
> persons that are in charge of public roles; but any criticism should
> never to be directed generally to ethnical or religious groups
Now we're back to pretending that no socially/politically powerful
group, cartel or cabal (faith-based, government or otherwise) has ever
had nor retains any true authority whatsoever over the rest of us,
except whenever good things happen is when they all pretty much claim
having some involvement.
The new and improved moderation of this group by the old-guard that’s
forever in charge, tends to further prove my point, pretty much the
same as ”Whoever controls the past, controls the future” that George
Orwell was trying to convey. In other words, the past simply can
never be revised regardless of the good/bad consequences.
>
> 6) always bear in mind that all ethnical or religious ensembles always
> include good willing people and dishonest ones: "bombing" the whole
> group one will bomb also the good willing persons, making thus a big
> favour to the bad persons!
What if that group of authority or policy enforcement that’s typically
managed by a few of those dishonest ones, and if this self appointed
authority further elects to not police its own kind that do the
provoking in the first place, then what?
Why not let the general public interact with those most responsible
for the past that has established control of our private parts and
over much of our loot at the same time?
The hiding of SRI-EDU from public review is highly suspicious, but
then so was much of what Ponzi Madoff and his kosher approved SEC had
going for more than a decade. So it’s a little hard to tell what’s
really going on. I say it’s better to be safe than sorry (again).
>
> Now, Brad Guth is moderated, since:
> a) he used an offensive language in some of his languages
> b) he kept on, in his messages, reaffirming his discriminant anti-
> semitic statements
> c) he also retorted on me, after my warning, saying that my behaviour
> is supporting the ones that he considers guilty for the current
> political situation.
>
> Several members wrote me asking for more definitive sanctions -- i.e.
> permanenet exclusion.
> I decided, by now, to moderate the Brad's messages.
> Hope that this will be enough.
>
> All the best
> Adriano V. Autino, SRI, President
Discussing the whole truth and nothing but the truth, as based upon
our deductively interpreting the best available research and its
science of subsequent evidence, nearly always has this exact same
shock and awe result with the usual policy of naysay, denial and
obfuscating mainstreamers going postal, whereas those in charge get to
use whatever damage-control tactics or methods they can muster in
order to exclude/banish or disqualify whatever rocks their precious
fleet of public funded mainstream boats, even as that mothership of
theirs is clearly sinking with them and most everyone else onboard
(the same as the NASA good ship LOLLIPOP that can’t seem to bail
itself out or take constructive hints without their getting all
defensive and/or huffy and defiant about most everything you’d care to
mention, whereas they only pull their pants up and get all kissy-faced
whenever they want more of our hard earned loot).
“I strongly support the Geo-Lunar space industrialization” seems a tad
cliché and even hypocritically hollow of SRI, especially when this was
always my idea first and perhaps even better, makes me think Adriano
Autino is simply jealous or afraid of my competition, perhaps both.
And that SRI policy of “to put together, in a coherent way, the basic
concepts for a new astronautic humanistic philosophy, an open vision
of the world, nomore terrocentric, completing the copernican
revolution” smacks of hypocritical status quo as you can get,
especially when fresh ideas and their arguments are getting
systematically banished/excluded, especially taboo if there’s any hint
of faith-based or other special-interest considerations that are put
at risk for their having been responsible thus far.
Just because I so happen to think our public funded government(s) and
those of our public funded NASA and DARPA have made a few too many
poor choices and even spendy mistakes, is apparently cause for SRI
alarm and failsafe protectionism to kick into high gear, such as using
topic/author banishment in order to suit their own ulterior motives of
forever protecting that old guard which got us deep into this mess to
start with. In other words, nothing really changes or ever gets
revised for the greater good as long as SRI has anything to say
(that’s even potentially bad news for anything William Mook has to
offer).
As far as whatever SRI letter(s) to President Obama, I say good luck
with that and for getting anything revised for the better, because
whatever the change means that others before were either in error or
something worse that SRI has to specifically point out and back up
with their very own evidence, that which can’t help but revise history
as published for others to learn from, and we all know that’s never
going to happen.
Martin J. Dudziak seems to be trying hard, but with nothing outside of
his own minions to bounce ideas off there’s little odds of his rant
getting honest unbiased feedback, much less constructive contributions
from those of us having to pay for most everything. Royce Jones isn’t
exactly doing much better, especially since she believes everything
our NASA and government(s) have done thus far (including space related
research and technology advancements) couldn’t possibly have been
accomplished any better. For example, we still don’t know the
individuals and their chain of command responsible for having foiled
our spendy OCO mission, but apparently that doesn’t matter. Perhaps
Mark Wallach (SRI shark) can manage to figure everything out without
ever having to involve the whole truth and nothing but the truth,
while always pretending that SRI offers some kind of special authority
that never has to look back, and perhaps that’s why our DoD wants
members of SRI to get with the program of creating lots of clean
energy from space, because it takes such energy in order to become a
global warlord and to sustain that roll of global domination that has
to happen as secretly as possible.
If there’s supposedly never a soul or any special-interest group
responsible for those errors and failures, and otherwise always tens
of thousands that get to receive those public funded credits and
benefits for the good things accomplished, then we’ll also get to pay
for reinventing whatever R&D plus trial and error wheels over and over
(aka Saturn V and their fly-by-rocket lander just to name a couple),
all because the gospel whole truth and nothing but the truth is simply
nowhere in sight, and the old guard forever remains in charge.
I’m strongly in favor of mostly robotics and unmanned probes doing
99.9% of whatever our NASA is given to work with, and if that makes me
another SRI bad-guy, then so be it. Outside of NASA and at most 50%
public funded is altogether another ballgame, whereas most anything
goes as long as it doesn’t involve destroying or further damaging
Earth in the process. I’m sure that only makes me an SRI outcast, as
to suggest that any private sector with only at most 50% public
funding could ever replace our dysfunctional and often ungrateful
NASA, that should have been USAF and thus saving a tonne of our hard
earned loot to begin with.
However, apparently the pretend serious groups like SRI don’t want to
ever have to think about the past, as though not anything older than
24 hours can be disputed or otherwise reinterpreted. So apparently
it’s only the right here and now that matters, and even that can’t be
corrected or revised once past the 24 hour failsafe mark when it too
becomes the past.
It’s certainly fun to pretend that bad stuff never happened, isn’t
it. It's kind of like having unlimited public funded do-overs.
~ BG