Re: Tree id

[Mark Mayfield]

Hi Ryan,

Yes, these are alternate leaves with stipules. The presence of several leaves from the nodes indicates the presence of what are called brachyblasts, or short shoots at those nodes. The leaves are essentially elliptic with small teeth and relatively long petioles. This looks like flowering quince and you say it is a tree, but I'm guessing it's a rounded shrub instead. The reason I say this is that there are two quite different things in the rose family that are both "quince": one is a tree (Cydonia oblonga) with white flowers and leaves that have smooth margins, and the other is a rounded shrub that has toothed leaf margins and red to red-orange flowers, and is Japanese or flowering quince (Chaenomeles japonica). They can both produce a similar pear-like quince fruit directly on the stems (from the brachyblasts).

Best,

Mark

Mark H Mayfield

Division of Biology

Kansas State University

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From: Ryan Schaub <resc...@ksu.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2025 10:27:07 AM
To: Mark Mayfield <mark...@ksu.edu>
Subject: Tree id

 

Good morning Mark,

Back at it again trying to identify a tree or shrub this time. 

Alternate leaf structure it appears. Has multiple leaves coming out at each bud it appears. Some have two some have four. Some have what looks like one. I don't know. 

Any ideas? I thought rough leaf dogwood at first. Then was thinking honeysuckle but those are opposite leaves. These are alternate. So maybe common persimmon? Hawthorn would have thorns and this doesn't.

Any ways what can you tell me sir? 

Ryan 

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[Mark Mayfield]

Hi Ryan,

Do you have a picture of the plant? The leaf margins weren't very clear in the images and I'm not sure I can make the distinction between the two quince. 

Mark

Mark H Mayfield

Division of Biology

Kansas State University

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From: Mark Mayfield <mark...@ksu.edu>
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To: Ryan Schaub <resc...@ksu.edu>
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Subject: Re: Tree id