I am thinking of investing in Ableton Live, but I would like to use my iPad synth apps as instruments. I have seen sketchy information that this is possible using the 'External Instrument' instrument, but it is rumoured to be inconsistent in operation. Also, most people running Ableton seem to have Mac hardware, which I don't
I would like to know if anyone has experience of this, and if it works (well, or at all) on Windows. Also, having just more or less persuaded myself I could make do with the Intro version (69), I think I have understood from the features lists that this doesn't have the External Instrument, so I would need the Standard version (319)
Might be worth searching the forum as you might find some threads that have already covered this. I know at one point it was necessary to install additional software to make things work on Windows, so those threads might give you some suggestions for necessary software.
I just invest into a windows laptop and took the Live standard edition. It works very well. I have a IConnectAudio+ to interface everything. It worked with the intro version too. In fact, I am very surprised how good it is to have Ableton + IPad playing together. There is latency but nothing unsurmountable
@MarkH - the first thing to solve is how you're going to get audio from the iPad to Windows. the iConnectAudio 4C is a great way, but not cheap. Two audio interfaces, one outputting from the iPad connected to one inputting to the Windows PC is another, but introduces double the latency.
For recording audio you can use SonoBus which is also free but more prone to latency issues. If recording small chucks of audio its pretty good. You can find SonoBus in the app store and on the dev website you can download the PC version.
@wim said:
@MarkH - the first thing to solve is how you're going to get audio from the iPad to Windows. the iConnectAudio 4C is a great way, but not cheap. Two audio interfaces, one outputting from the iPad connected to one inputting to the Windows PC is another, but introduces double the latency.
a simple usb2midi interface connected to the ipad and then to your asio audio card would work
rtp-midi would work too as suggested above , but avoid wireless and buy a usb2ethernet for connectng to ipad and then to your pc (i bought a usb3 hub that had 3 ports plus one ethernet and worked)
you might try bluetooth midi if latemcy is acceptable using the midiberry app on windows store
Network Session / RTP Midi should work quite well over ethernet, requiring only a USB ethernet adapter as mentioned above. I haven't actually tried this with a PC though. Forget Wifi for this. You will never be happy with the results.
That may have been my thread, I was asking I did get the USB MIDI cables and they do work back to back, although I found they also interfered with the iPad audio out. Perhaps I need to get less-cheap ones!
Yes, I have just been watching the 18-part (or more) series on Koala by NervousCook$, when he mentions this. Although as I said, I think you need the more expensive version to use external instruments.
The external instrument device makes using external instruments a tiny bit more comfortable by uniting the midi out and the audio in from the instrument on the same track (there may be additional advantages, that I don't know right now). But you can easily use one midi track for the midi output and one audio track for the audio input in any version of live.
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