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Phineas G

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Oct 5, 2022, 4:15:22 PM10/5/22
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The questions are perhaps not very scholarly, but I think they are interesting points of discussion, so here goes:

1. In Five Weeks in a Balloon, the following discourse occurs:

“What! real Arabs, sir, with their camels?”

“No, not many camels; they are scarce, if not altogether unknown, in these regions. We must go a few degrees farther north to see them.”

“What a pity!”

“And why, Joe?”

“Because, if the wind fell contrary, they might be of use to us.”

“How so?”

“Well, sir, it’s just a notion that’s got into my head: we might hitch them to the car, and make them tow us along. What do you say to that, doctor?”

“Poor Joe! Another person had that idea in advance of you. It was used by a very gifted French author—M. Méry—in a romance, it is true. He has his travellers drawn along in a balloon by a team of camels; then a lion comes up, devours the camels, swallows the tow-rope, and hauls the balloon in their stead; and so on through the story. You see that the whole thing is the top-flower of fancy, but has nothing in common with our style of locomotion.”

Joe, a little cut down at learning that his idea had been used already, cudgelled his wits to imagine what animal could have devoured the lion; but he could not guess it, and so quietly went on scanning the appearance of the country.

There's clearly a joke here, and I hate missing a joke. What does eat the lion? It seems the M. Méry refered to here is Joseph Méry, but which specific work I cannot tell. Is anyone able to clue me in?

2. In Mysterious Island (the first chapter of part 2), Neb and Herbert (I know some of the names are different in the original French, but I'll use the names by which I know them best) find a turtle on the beach. They flip it over, and secure it with some stones, but on their return, the turtle is gone. Cyrus dismisses the matter but discreetly adds it to his growing list of inexplicable occurrences. When the group later discourse with Captain Nemo, it is explained that every other strange happening on the island has been his doing. The issue of the turtle, however, is never addressed. This has always struck me as strange, so I would like to hear if you guys have any insights from the original French, or any speculation at all as to why this might be. Did Captain Nemo free the turtle? If so, why would he rob the settlers of this catch? If not, why is this event included in the story?

Arthur Evans

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Oct 5, 2022, 5:53:56 PM10/5/22
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For question #1 on Verne and Méry, see the following VERNIANA article:

For question #2, Cyrus "reasonably" explained that it was probably the high tide that allowed the turtle to turn itself back over.  But, maintaining the mystery, the narrator still wonders "was he convinced of the correctness of the explanation? One would not dare to say so."

Amitiés,
Art


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Oct 5, 2022, 9:39:55 PM10/5/22
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The most scholarly questions are those that go to the heart of the literary work, often resolutely common-sensical ones.

 

“Joe… cudgelled his wits to imagine what animal could have devoured the lion” is an accurate translation of the French (“Joe…  chercha quel animal aurait pu dévorer le lion”). I’m not sure, but “could have devoured the lion” might here be deemed equivalent to “could in turn devour the lion”. The lion is clearly not devoured: Joe, possibly remembering tales of gnats being eaten by larger animals, which in turn…, is trying to imagine a comical situation where an even larger animal could devour the lion, but can’t think of a realistic one.

 

As Art Evans’s article points out, the righting of the turtle never receives a fully satisfactory explanation. At the end of the book, we are supposed to assume that it is “Nemo’s” doing (I put Nemo in quotes, because the “Nemo” of The Mysterious Island is a travesty of the Nemo of Twenty Thousand Leagues). In fact there’s a whole series of events that can only be attributed to “Nemo”, but really don’t make sense.

 

One possible explanation of “Nemo’s” meddling is to ironically show up the meddling in the book of Verne’s publisher’s Jules Hetzel; some of the inexplicable events may even have been his idea.

 

Bill

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Phineas G

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Oct 5, 2022, 11:54:18 PM10/5/22
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Cool! Thank you for your answers!
One follow up question:
You say in your post that "there’s a whole series of events that can only be attributed to 'Nemo', but really don’t make sense."
Which other events might you be referring to? The only one that sticks out to me as unwarranted and out of character is the incident with the turtle (especial since the Nemo of 20,000 Leagues is such a clever turtle hunter himself).

wbutch...@gmail.com

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Oct 6, 2022, 3:17:04 AM10/6/22
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For starters, there’s the dog thrown 10 feet into the air from the lake (part 1, ch. 16).

Jan Rychlik

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Oct 6, 2022, 4:21:01 AM10/6/22
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perhaps being dog lover, Nemo saved Top from the jaws of dugong by throwing him out of the water:)

6. 10. 2022 v 9:17, wbutch...@gmail.com:



Don Sample

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Oct 6, 2022, 11:50:10 AM10/6/22
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I always figured he got tossed by the dugong.

Makes as much sense as a dugong being some fearsome creature.

Jan Rychlik

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Oct 6, 2022, 2:43:25 PM10/6/22
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In 1939 the most prominent Czech illustrator of Verne had the same opinion. See http://www.daildeli.cz/ilustrace/01burian/02verne02/06.jpg

6. 10. 2022 v 17:50, 'Don Sample' via Jules Verne Forum <jules-ve...@googlegroups.com>:

I always figured he got tossed by the dugong.

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